Report: Obama Knew a Year Before ACA Became Law Millions Would Lose Insurance

WelfareQueen

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This is stunning. Absolutely stunning. And the report is from NBC News! Please read this and see how your President lies to you.




Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance
By Mike Krumboltz, Yahoo News



"Before the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010, President Obama promised Americans they could keep their healthcare plan if they liked it. But already hundreds of thousands of citizens are receiving notification that their plans are being cancelled because they don't comply with the new law, and, according to NBC News, the Obama administration has known for at least three years the cancellations were coming.

While campaigning for health care reform in 2009, Obama went out of his way to make one thing perfectly clear: if you like your current health care plan, you will be able to keep it.

On June 15, 2009, Obama said this: "We will keep this promise to the American people. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. Period.”

In 2012, he echoed that sentiment, saying, "“If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.”

However, many are finding that not to be the case. More than 300,000 cancellation notices have been sent out in Florida, according to Kaiser Health News, and another 180,000 in California. In New Jersey, the number of cancellations tops 800,000, the Star-Ledger reports.

According to NBC News, approximately 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million Americans who buy their health insurance individually should expect to receive a cancellation letter over the next year "because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law."

This could result in millions of Americans being forced to purchase different policies, potentially at higher premiums.

So how did the Obama administration know the cancellations would be coming?

The Affordable Care Act states that people who had health insurance prior to March 23, 2010 – the day President Obama signed the bill into law – will be able to keep those policies even if they don't meet the requirements of the new law. However, the Department of Health and Human Services tightened that provision, so that "if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date -- the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example -- the policy would not be grandfathered," NBC News reports.

Because the market for individual insurance experiences significant turnover, the insinuation is the Obama administration had to have known many policies "grandfathered" in would not qualify for the ACA. NBC News claims that the administration knew in 2010 that "more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them."

“This says that when they made the promise [that individuals could keep their plans], they knew half the people in this market outright couldn’t keep what they had and then they wrote the rules so that others couldn’t make it either,” Robert Laszewski of Health Policy and Strategy Associates told NBC News.

Monday, former Obama adviser David Axelrod said on MSNBC's Morning Joe that "most people are going to keep their own plan." When asked about Axelrod's admission of "most" as opposed to all, White House spokesman Jay Carney acknowledge that some individual's plans will be cancelled, but countered that the plans they switch to will be better and affordable.

"What the president said and what everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care Act to create minimum standards of coverage," Carney said. "… So it's true that there are existing health-care plans on the individual market that don't meet those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the Affordable Care Act."

Actually, what the President said back in 2009 was "[the Affordable Care Act] is for people who aren’t happy with their current plan. If you like what you’re getting, keep it. Nobody is forcing you to shift."

Only now, some who like their plans are being forced, including Laszewski. According to NBC News, he has a so-called "Cadillac plan" – "the best health insurance policy you can buy," he said – but recently received notice in the mail that it was being cancelled."
 
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No lie, just the rational human's inability to foresee mindless Pub, and insurers', dishonesty and obstruction...
 
No lie, just the rational human's inability to foresee mindless Pub, and insurers', dishonesty and obstruction...


I'm not really sure why I'm asking....but why do you think NBC News is lying about the President? Any theories?
 
Ok, so why haven't millions lost their insurance yet?

It's hard to buy into right-wing propaganda at the moment. These are the same clowns that say only 9 people have signed up for Obamacare, when we're well over 500,000 at the moment even without the websites being functional.
 
No lie, just the rational human's inability to foresee mindless Pub, and insurers', dishonesty and obstruction...


I'm not really sure why I'm asking....but why do you think NBC News is lying about the President? Any theories?

You do realize that NBC is owned by a major player in the military industrial complex and they give way, WAY more money to Republicans than Democrats, right?

The media in America is not liberal. It's all owned by Republicans.

MSNBC just happens to be the only space left where truth and facts come into play.
 
Ok, so why haven't millions lost their insurance yet?

It's hard to buy into right-wing propaganda at the moment. These are the same clowns that say only 9 people have signed up for Obamacare, when we're well over 500,000 at the moment even without the websites being functional.


Ah.....do you follow the news at all? Do you read? Google millions lose insurance and see what pops up for ya, okay? :eusa_shifty:
 
The medical coverage should have been better at their place of employment.
 
No lie, just the rational human's inability to foresee mindless Pub, and insurers', dishonesty and obstruction...


I'm not really sure why I'm asking....but why do you think NBC News is lying about the President? Any theories?

You do realize that NBC is owned by a major player in the military industrial complex and they give way, WAY more money to Republicans than Democrats, right?

The media in America is not liberal. It's all owned by Republicans.

MSNBC just happens to be the only space left where truth and facts come into play.


Wow...you really are stunningly stupid. NBC is owned by a cable company genius. They are not a part of "the military industrial complex." Here's how their campaign contributions sorted out during the last Presidential election.

3. Comcast Corporation (CMCSA)

> Total contributions (2012-ongoing): $2,774,151
> Donations to Democratic Party: 64%
> Donations to Republican Party: 36%
> Spending on lobbying (2012-ongoing): $4,600,000
> Industry: Cable TV



Here's the link. Try reading some, and educate yourself.

The Ten Companies Making The Biggest Political Donations - Yahoo Finance
 
The medical coverage should have been better at their place of employment.

Another genius. The people getting cancelled own individual policies not sponsored by an employer. Are all liberal idiots? I mean no offense, but this is painful.
 
Either most people are stupid or I am smarter than most, but I knew Obama was a fucking liar the first time I saw him.
 
I'm not really sure why I'm asking....but why do you think NBC News is lying about the President? Any theories?

You do realize that NBC is owned by a major player in the military industrial complex and they give way, WAY more money to Republicans than Democrats, right?

The media in America is not liberal. It's all owned by Republicans.

MSNBC just happens to be the only space left where truth and facts come into play.


Wow...you really are stunningly stupid. NBC is owned by a cable company genius. They are not a part of "the military industrial complex." Here's how their campaign contributions sorted out during the last Presidential election.

3. Comcast Corporation (CMCSA)

> Total contributions (2012-ongoing): $2,774,151
> Donations to Democratic Party: 64%
> Donations to Republican Party: 36%
> Spending on lobbying (2012-ongoing): $4,600,000
> Industry: Cable TV



Here's the link. Try reading some, and educate yourself.

The Ten Companies Making The Biggest Political Donations - Yahoo Finance

GE was the majority owner until only recently. I wasn't aware they gave up the channel. But they were indeed military industrial complex all the way.

Still doesn't change the fact that this yahoo article is total bullshit.

To buy into it would make you the stupid one.
 
What I don't understand is how maobama and moochell plan to protect their kids from his dishonesty in his job performance while supposedly performing the most important job on earth. He has no moral standing on anything that could happen in their lives. You can't get more abusive to children than that.
 
I love this. Possible useful information to make those Obamacare blues go away. :)



 
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These are crap policies being cancelled btw...

Actually, many of them are decent policies; they just do not offer 100% coverage on all preventative care. Costs are being shifted in many cases. For some, the policies under the ACA will be cheaper, but for others they will be more expensive. While I do support the ACA and believe it is a step in the right direction, there need to be some changes.
 
These are crap policies being cancelled btw...

Actually, many of them are decent policies; they just do not offer 100% coverage on all preventative care. Costs are being shifted in many cases. For some, the policies under the ACA will be cheaper, but for others they will be more expensive. While I do support the ACA and believe it is a step in the right direction, there need to be some changes.

ACA is a typically paternalistic, condescending, one-size fits all approach to health care. It takes away consumer choice and takes power away from the public that actually has to buy the insurance.

Does a 60 year old women need to pay for annual prostate exams? Does a 30 year old male need to pay for a yearly pelvic, pap smear, and mammogram? Or how about an elder couple paying for well baby exams?

Auditor, you and I have had discussions on this topic, and we generally agree. The system is broken. Obamacare makes it much worse. It is a complete disaster. The plug will be pulled on this monster...it's just a question of when.
 

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