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All of them.
They do not really help to get them out of poverty.
If the programs actually worked we would have a very low number of people in poverty.
The Cato Institute explaind it very well in 2006.
More Welfare More Poverty Cato Institute
A libertarian 'think tank' says so? It MUST be true right? After all we can point to MANY successful libertarian economic models such as??????
The Great Society At 50; Yes, It Has Abolished Poverty
Nicholas Eberstadt has an excellent essay about the effects of the Great Society and the War on Poverty and its success over the past 50 years. Entirely contrary to what we’re usually told about it it has indeed succeeded, it has got as close as government work ever will to abolishing poverty. The problem is that we’re still using the wrong methods to measure that success. We are measuring the incomes of the poor, not their consumption possibilities, and we are also measuring those incomes without taking into account the things we do to raise those incomes. When we correct for those two failings we find that there really isn’t any poverty to speak of in the US. We should therefore conclude that the war has been won.
The Great Society At 50 Yes It Has Abolished Poverty - Forbes
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
That is like saying that the TRILLIONS of dollars we spent on the military over the last 50 years were wasted because we still have wars.
Of the two, I would rather spend money on the people
Do you think military spending does not put people to work? Who the fuck do you think makes ships, planes, tanks, guns, uniforms, boots, rations? American blue collar workers, thats who.
But instead you would just give that money to the "poor". You dumb shit, without US military spending you could be speaking German or Japanese today---------ya dumb fuckhead.
Spending on the poor also puts money into the economy with housing, food, medical expenses and personal expenditures. The poor do not keep their money, it moves into their community. Unlike the wealthy who hoard their wealth
A trillion dollars on the poor goes into those communities. A trillion on the defense industrial complex goes into stockpayer funds
A libertarian 'think tank' says so? It MUST be true right? After all we can point to MANY successful libertarian economic models such as??????
The Great Society At 50; Yes, It Has Abolished Poverty
Nicholas Eberstadt has an excellent essay about the effects of the Great Society and the War on Poverty and its success over the past 50 years. Entirely contrary to what we’re usually told about it it has indeed succeeded, it has got as close as government work ever will to abolishing poverty. The problem is that we’re still using the wrong methods to measure that success. We are measuring the incomes of the poor, not their consumption possibilities, and we are also measuring those incomes without taking into account the things we do to raise those incomes. When we correct for those two failings we find that there really isn’t any poverty to speak of in the US. We should therefore conclude that the war has been won.
The Great Society At 50 Yes It Has Abolished Poverty - Forbes
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
That is like saying that the TRILLIONS of dollars we spent on the military over the last 50 years were wasted because we still have wars.
Of the two, I would rather spend money on the people
Do you think military spending does not put people to work? Who the fuck do you think makes ships, planes, tanks, guns, uniforms, boots, rations? American blue collar workers, thats who.
But instead you would just give that money to the "poor". You dumb shit, without US military spending you could be speaking German or Japanese today---------ya dumb fuckhead.
Spending on the poor also puts money into the economy with housing, food, medical expenses and personal expenditures. The poor do not keep their money, it moves into their community. Unlike the wealthy who hoard their wealth
A trillion dollars on the poor goes into those communities. A trillion on the defense industrial complex goes into stockpayer funds
Before money can be spent on the military or given to the poor, is has to be collected from someone. people making military hardware pay taxes, corporations pay taxes, the poor may spend the money but they pay no taxes.
Your kind of thinking is why we are 17 trillion in debt. The money has to come from somewhere before it can be spent.
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
That is like saying that the TRILLIONS of dollars we spent on the military over the last 50 years were wasted because we still have wars.
Of the two, I would rather spend money on the people
Do you think military spending does not put people to work? Who the fuck do you think makes ships, planes, tanks, guns, uniforms, boots, rations? American blue collar workers, thats who.
But instead you would just give that money to the "poor". You dumb shit, without US military spending you could be speaking German or Japanese today---------ya dumb fuckhead.
Spending on the poor also puts money into the economy with housing, food, medical expenses and personal expenditures. The poor do not keep their money, it moves into their community. Unlike the wealthy who hoard their wealth
A trillion dollars on the poor goes into those communities. A trillion on the defense industrial complex goes into stockpayer funds
Before money can be spent on the military or given to the poor, is has to be collected from someone. people making military hardware pay taxes, corporations pay taxes, the poor may spend the money but they pay no taxes.
Your kind of thinking is why we are 17 trillion in debt. The money has to come from somewhere before it can be spent.
5 Star General
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
That is like saying that the TRILLIONS of dollars we spent on the military over the last 50 years were wasted because we still have wars.
Of the two, I would rather spend money on the people
Do you think military spending does not put people to work? Who the fuck do you think makes ships, planes, tanks, guns, uniforms, boots, rations? American blue collar workers, thats who.
But instead you would just give that money to the "poor". You dumb shit, without US military spending you could be speaking German or Japanese today---------ya dumb fuckhead.
Spending on the poor also puts money into the economy with housing, food, medical expenses and personal expenditures. The poor do not keep their money, it moves into their community. Unlike the wealthy who hoard their wealth
A trillion dollars on the poor goes into those communities. A trillion on the defense industrial complex goes into stockpayer funds
Before money can be spent on the military or given to the poor, is has to be collected from someone. people making military hardware pay taxes, corporations pay taxes, the poor may spend the money but they pay no taxes.
Your kind of thinking is why we are 17 trillion in debt. The money has to come from somewhere before it can be spent.
5 Star General
do you have any idea what point Ike was trying to make when he said those words?
Which welfare programs, Peach?
All of them.
They do not really help to get them out of poverty.
If the programs actually worked we would have a very low number of people in poverty.
The Cato Institute explaind it very well in 2006.
More Welfare More Poverty Cato Institute
Fuck Cato. They are not a valid source.
I still have no idea what you are arguing. You started talking about homeless shelters and said something about individuals with illnesses. What does that have to do with anything?
You're being intentionally obtuse. I don't have time for that shit.
Apparently you don't have time to make a lucid point either. When you do have time, start with that.
I did. You're being intentionally obtuse. Go play that shit with someone else.
Cato is just as much a valid source as any lefty source.
A difference in philosophies does not make any of them invalid.
This is what happens when people get their news from cartoon shows.Now it seems they have to focus on Governmental Topics instead of;
Low information voters?
Democrat cheating?
Voter suppression?
Left wing media?
After today............it's no longer Obama's fault for everything........
Are you prepared for actual legislation? Or were you primped by bias news sources to think everything wrong in the History of America was 1 persons fault LOL. And are you prepared to THINK about topics instead of stating the standard, "You are stupid"?
I can't wait to see a small town Redneck Right Wing idiot vote for the freedom of a Corporation to plant there and destroy their profits, livelihood and poison the people. "Why regulate lead paint! Derp! It costs taxations! Derp!"
America has been too busy WORKING to THINK.
They are libertarian, so fiscally conservative. As far as the content, it isn't right or wrong just because it comes from them. Reading helps.Cato is not a valid source. It is a right wing think tank that likes to bullshit. They repeatedly get nailed.
YOU are a moderate? LMAOROG
Bubba, you are soooo extreme even Rove is laughing his ass off at you and your type
Yep! Here you go:
Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Tell me you think your Marxist Democrats are the moderates, that would be hysterical.
A libertarian 'think tank' says so? It MUST be true right? After all we can point to MANY successful libertarian economic models such as??????
The Great Society At 50; Yes, It Has Abolished Poverty
Nicholas Eberstadt has an excellent essay about the effects of the Great Society and the War on Poverty and its success over the past 50 years. Entirely contrary to what we’re usually told about it it has indeed succeeded, it has got as close as government work ever will to abolishing poverty. The problem is that we’re still using the wrong methods to measure that success. We are measuring the incomes of the poor, not their consumption possibilities, and we are also measuring those incomes without taking into account the things we do to raise those incomes. When we correct for those two failings we find that there really isn’t any poverty to speak of in the US. We should therefore conclude that the war has been won.
The Great Society At 50 Yes It Has Abolished Poverty - Forbes
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
That is like saying that the TRILLIONS of dollars we spent on the military over the last 50 years were wasted because we still have wars.
Of the two, I would rather spend money on the people
Do you think military spending does not put people to work? Who the fuck do you think makes ships, planes, tanks, guns, uniforms, boots, rations? American blue collar workers, thats who.
But instead you would just give that money to the "poor". You dumb shit, without US military spending you could be speaking German or Japanese today---------ya dumb fuckhead.
Spending on the poor also puts money into the economy with housing, food, medical expenses and personal expenditures. The poor do not keep their money, it moves into their community. Unlike the wealthy who hoard their wealth
A trillion dollars on the poor goes into those communities. A trillion on the defense industrial complex goes into stockpayer funds
Before money can be spent on the military or given to the poor, is has to be collected from someone. people making military hardware pay taxes, corporations pay taxes, the poor may spend the money but they pay no taxes.
Your kind of thinking is why we are 17 trillion in debt. The money has to come from somewhere before it can be spent.
They are libertarian, so fiscally conservative. As far as the content, it isn't right or wrong just because it comes from them. Reading helps.Cato is not a valid source. It is a right wing think tank that likes to bullshit. They repeatedly get nailed.
Awwww all you want, you used the low information voter excuse. And the reality is you lost the war on women in Colorado. It's a tired old game and you lost.Well, you can't stop you from voting and you seem as low as they go.Dam that liberal media
That's what makes it so much better, the liberal media was neutralized by reality this election.
I know they were neutralized by the "low information voters"
Awwww
Obama campaigned for the Illinois governor and lost. The Democrats had the Clinton's visit states and all lost.
Three female Republican Governors, have done well and were re-elected.
Biden goes out on the trail a leaves a trail of losses.
The fact is Obama has blamed everyone else for the countries troubles and the voters are a lot smarter than you and can see through the smoke. The Democrats ran from Obama and the GOP tied the Democrats to Obama and they lost big.
Amazing how the Repubs LOVE them some RINO's when they win an election...
Which welfare programs, Peach?
All of them.
They do not really help to get them out of poverty.
If the programs actually worked we would have a very low number of people in poverty.
The Cato Institute explaind it very well in 2006.
More Welfare More Poverty Cato Institute
A libertarian 'think tank' says so? It MUST be true right? After all we can point to MANY successful libertarian economic models such as??????
The Great Society At 50; Yes, It Has Abolished Poverty
Nicholas Eberstadt has an excellent essay about the effects of the Great Society and the War on Poverty and its success over the past 50 years. Entirely contrary to what we’re usually told about it it has indeed succeeded, it has got as close as government work ever will to abolishing poverty. The problem is that we’re still using the wrong methods to measure that success. We are measuring the incomes of the poor, not their consumption possibilities, and we are also measuring those incomes without taking into account the things we do to raise those incomes. When we correct for those two failings we find that there really isn’t any poverty to speak of in the US. We should therefore conclude that the war has been won.
The Great Society At 50 Yes It Has Abolished Poverty - Forbes
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
Really? After 50 years and TRILLIONS of dollars a poverty rate of 15% or so is considered "abolished"? What the hell are you idiots smoking?
That is like saying that the TRILLIONS of dollars we spent on the military over the last 50 years were wasted because we still have wars.
Of the two, I would rather spend money on the people
Amazing how the Repubs LOVE them some RINO's when they win an election...
Newsflash!!!! Dodd-Frank and EPA regs were negotiated by the GOP house in order to pass spending bills. Affordable care act (not called Obamacare) is good for the country. I have seen with my own eyes octogenarians still working minimum jobs to buy medications and afford their Drs. The Affordable care act now allows them to retire as they should. The CEO of Bank of America received a bonus of 11.3 million after the 2nd quarter. I am sure he deserved it while middle income families struggle to meet monthly expenses..
Please show us where the Affordable Care Act allows seniors to retire.
Specifically, what were the changes to Medicare that lowered costs for seniors?
ONLY lowering costs for seniors on Medicare is the only way to measure it? lol
How the Affordable Care Act Helps Seniors
The Affordable Care Act (ACA), signed into law on March 23, 2010, aims to provide greater access to health care coverage, improve the quality of services delivered and reduce the rate of increase in health spending. The ACA provides new ways to help hospitals, doctors and other health care providers coordinate care for beneficiaries so that health care quality is improved and unnecessary spending reduced. Many seniors are already benefiting from provisions of the law such as receiving preventive services and paying lower Medicare prescription drug costs. Below are some of the ways that the Affordable Care Act is helping seniors.
Medicare Benefits Expanded
Preventive Services and Annual Wellness Visit
Lower Medicare Part B Premiums
Lower-Cost Prescription Drugs
Improvements for Medicare Advantage Plan Members
Medicare Fraud, Waste and Abuse
The ACA includes new resources and tools to protect taxpayer dollars by preventing fraud in Medicare and Medicaid by building on the efforts of the Department of Health and Human Services and the Justice Department.
Medicare Delivery System and Payment Reforms
Helping Americans of All Ages
The ACA helps seniors and Americans of all ages. The law stops insurance companies from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions; prohibits insurance companies from taking away coverage when someone needs services, eliminates lifetime limits on insurance coverage, allows young adults to stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26 and provides assistance to employers to help them continue providing retiree health insurance benefits. In 2014, the following ACA benefits go into effect, improving health care for more individuals and families.
MORE
- Requiring guaranteed issue and renewability of health insurance regardless of health status and allowing rating variation based only on age (limited to a 3 to 1 ratio), geographic area, family composition and tobacco use in the individual, small group market and the health insurance exchanges.
- Prohibiting annual limits on the dollar value of coverage.
- Creating state-based health insurance marketplaces where individuals and small businesses with up to 100 employees can purchase qualified coverage.
- Providing refundable, advance tax credits and cost sharing subsidies to eligible individuals to help pay for health insurance.
How the Affordable Care Act Helps Seniors
linkThe average monthly premium for Medicare Advantage plans in 2015 will be $33.90—an increase of $2.94, or 9.5%, over the current year. But as a result of more individuals seeking out lower-cost plans, the CMS estimates that the average premium hike will actually be $1.30 per month
Lol um yes. Those tax cuts have contributed trillions to our debt.Here is your proof. Tax cuts aren't free. Both Bush and Obama's cuts have cost us.Bullshit. There are many instances in which revenues INCREASED following tax rate cuts. Sometimes revenues go down following a cut, sometimes they stay about the same. Your statement is a lie.
Nobody is surprised.
One, you have no facts or evidence to back this up. Just another lie. Two, you COMPLETELY avoided the fact that raising the min wage is devastating to the most vulnerable citizens. So cruel to force people on the dole. Nothing worse than preventing a man from working. Shame on you.
What you avoid the other points, which were thoroughly repudiated.
Fail, fail, fail...
US Debt by President
Not too bright, are you? The level of debt is determined by SPENDING over income. Your link in no way demonstrates that tax cuts always result in less revenue.
Fail again. Does it hurt to be so damn stupid???
Oh and here's proof of the raising of the wage boosting the economy:
http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/44995-MinimumWage.pdf
A projection by the CBO is not proof of anything.
Also:
Are CBO Estimates Really The Gold Standard Of Accuracy - Forbes
CBO Forecast Accuracy Cato Liberty
Weird, the US has ha LONG history of increasing the min wage and despite right wingers predictions, the economy has ALWAYS boomed. Of course nothing related to increasing the min wage, but the same folks against increasing min wage SWEAR tax cuts will create jobs and boom the economy, but recent examples have said they are morons!
| Jul 24, 2007 | $5.85 for all covered, nonexempt workers |
| Jul 24, 2008 | $6.55 for all covered, nonexempt workers |
| Jul 24, 2009 | $7.25 for all covered, nonexempt workers |
It boils down to getting rid of the Oligarchy Club in both parties and Mitch is very much one of them in that elite's club.
I don't see that happening in just 2 years.
The people themselves need to vote them all out or we will never have true reform that will be for the people rather than for the few who control everything.
It would help if the middle class would stop voting against their own best interest.
I would like to add that all Democrats here who bet that the Democrats would win.....stating they would leave the board if the Democrats did not win.....should now leave. No Welching, please.Results are in and Republicans have won major victories at all levels
Should I blame?
Low information voters?
Republican cheating?
Voter suppression?
Right wing media?
No, I'll just chalk it up to Republicans running some good candidates who kept their mouths shut and avoided shooting themselves in the foot. Republicans avoided the Tea Party nonsense and ran some candidates who appealed to their constituents.
My congratulations to the Republicans
