Republicans like to think they understand the concept of “free shit” but actually don’t

Are you serious, or are you just playing stupid to avoid the point?

If you can make a valid argument I will try and address it.

Geese, like a six year old. Very well. The point is that it's impossible to get rid of these programs once they are started. Then as time goes on, those programs increase our deficit and debt. Without all these social goodies, we would have the cash on hand to make our own plans and take care of ourselves. I don't know how old you are, but I'm pushing 60 right now. If I could have all the SS money I contributed all these years, had it invested in a conservative account, I could have retired five years ago as a millionaire.

So the bottom line is don't start anymore social programs. They will be toxic to our economy and make people more irresponsible.

I'm all for getting rid of socialist bailing out of failed corporations. Until we do that I'm going to do everything in my power to make things more even for the poor.

You think you can get Trump to stop it?

Corporations have nothing to do with this subject. Bailing out anybody didn't put us 22 trillion in the hole. It's decades and decades of social programs that did. As Einstein once said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different outcomes each time. The social programs we have now are going to be responsible for the collapse of this country. The solution is not adding more social programs to it.
Social Programs or Military Programs and tax cuts?

Social programs. The defense of this country is outlined in the US Constitution. Our leaders are charged with the safety of this country. Social programs are nowhere to be found in the document.
 

Oh, a meme???? Boy......don't I feel silly now. What more proof do I need than a meme?
Trump said it

It was an embarrassment

And yet you can't provide any credible evidence to support your case. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he never did. He likes to yank people's chain when the opportunity presents itself, it's just this is the first I heard of it.
I am not going to discuss Trumps sorry history with you

Good choice on your part. Never bring a knife to a gunfight.
 
You have his returns for those years?
Trump has already admitted he doesn’t pay Federal Taxes. He is too smart

Until he provides tax returns proving otherwise, we have to take him on his word

When did he say that? Link please.


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So Clinton said he didn't pay taxes

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Clinton published 10 years of taxes

Still waiting for Lying Donnie to publish his

There is no requirement to do so. Professional politicians manipulate their taxes for potential public view. Businessmen don't.
 
If I give a raccoon some of my ham why exactly would I want it back?

Are you serious, or are you just playing stupid to avoid the point?

If you can make a valid argument I will try and address it.

Geese, like a six year old. Very well. The point is that it's impossible to get rid of these programs once they are started. Then as time goes on, those programs increase our deficit and debt. Without all these social goodies, we would have the cash on hand to make our own plans and take care of ourselves. I don't know how old you are, but I'm pushing 60 right now. If I could have all the SS money I contributed all these years, had it invested in a conservative account, I could have retired five years ago as a millionaire.

So the bottom line is don't start anymore social programs. They will be toxic to our economy and make people more irresponsible.

I'm all for getting rid of socialist bailing out of failed corporations. Until we do that I'm going to do everything in my power to make things more even for the poor.

You think you can get Trump to stop it?

Corporations have nothing to do with this subject. Bailing out anybody didn't put us 22 trillion in the hole. It's decades and decades of social programs that did. As Einstein once said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different outcomes each time. The social programs we have now are going to be responsible for the collapse of this country. The solution is not adding more social programs to it.

It's going to cost money to keep people from starving .

If you have a problem with that, screw you.
 
If you can make a valid argument I will try and address it.

Geese, like a six year old. Very well. The point is that it's impossible to get rid of these programs once they are started. Then as time goes on, those programs increase our deficit and debt. Without all these social goodies, we would have the cash on hand to make our own plans and take care of ourselves. I don't know how old you are, but I'm pushing 60 right now. If I could have all the SS money I contributed all these years, had it invested in a conservative account, I could have retired five years ago as a millionaire.

So the bottom line is don't start anymore social programs. They will be toxic to our economy and make people more irresponsible.

I'm all for getting rid of socialist bailing out of failed corporations. Until we do that I'm going to do everything in my power to make things more even for the poor.

You think you can get Trump to stop it?

Corporations have nothing to do with this subject. Bailing out anybody didn't put us 22 trillion in the hole. It's decades and decades of social programs that did. As Einstein once said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different outcomes each time. The social programs we have now are going to be responsible for the collapse of this country. The solution is not adding more social programs to it.
Social Programs or Military Programs and tax cuts?

Social programs. The defense of this country is outlined in the US Constitution. Our leaders are charged with the safety of this country. Social programs are nowhere to be found in the document.

Do we help Americans or defend countries thousands of miles away?

Is invading Iraq and Vietnam defending America?
 
it’s a phrase used by republicans to denigrate the left for wanting tuition free college or socialized healthcare, but they don’t really understand how these concepts are no different than programs already in place.

When a republican’s house is on fire or they need police assistance do they pay the responders personally? Uh no. They keep the “free shit”. You see, something like free tuition or socialized medicine are no different. All of these programs are paid for with tax payer revenue. Bernie, after all, has tax proposals to pay for his ideas.

But they are not. That's the problem. If all these programs are paid for, then what were those $1.3 Trillion dollars deficits under Obama all about?

Fail.

And additionally, Bernie is full of crap. Yeah, I'm sure he made up all kinds of garbage about how he can pay for everything.

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Here's reality. The amount of taxes collected under higher tax rates, was lower over all, than it is today.

So Bernie is fully of crap. There is no money for endless spending on all your free education and free health care.

If that was even remotely true, then why is it that in Europe, the poorest people are paying double the amount of taxes that we are, and they still don't have enough money?

Why do you think all those French people are protesting, after the Government planned to increase taxes again?

You people are the most ignorant fools in this country.
 
The function of Government is to help those who need help
 
When a republican’s house is on fire or they need police assistance do they pay the responders personally? Uh no. They keep the “free shit”. You see, something like free tuition or socialized medicine are no different.
They are entirely different. You see, I have absolutely 0 legal authority to enforce the law. I cannot write a parking ticket. I cannot serve a warrant. I cannot detain someone for questioning.

That unequivocally requires government. But I can go to my own doctor and pay for it myself. And I can pay for my own education.

Do you realize how stupid you sound yet?
Lol no one cares what your dumbass does.
But they do care that your dumb ass just attempted to compare law enforcement work and “free” healthcare as the same “socialism”. :laugh:
 
When a republican’s house is on fire or they need police assistance do they pay the responders personally? Uh no. They keep the “free shit”. You see, something like free tuition or socialized medicine are no different.
They are entirely different. You see, I have absolutely 0 legal authority to enforce the law. I cannot write a parking ticket. I cannot serve a warrant. I cannot detain someone for questioning.

That unequivocally requires government. But I can go to my own doctor and pay for it myself. And I can pay for my own education.

Do you realize how stupid you sound yet?
Lol no one cares what your dumbass does.
But they do care that your dumb ass just attempted to compare law enforcement work and “free” healthcare as the same “socialism”. :laugh:

To conservatives....

Helping the wealthy is PATRIOTISM
Helping working Americans is SOCIALISM
 
Uh because idiot the large majority of people can’t afford college unless they take out loans they can never pay back.
Then they shouldn’t take the loan.

Besides, that’s idiotic left-wing propaganda that you were too stupid to recognize. I’ve known hundreds of people with college loans (including physicians with over $250,000 in loans) and every last one of them was able to pay it back.

You are too stupid to recognize the difference between “unable to” and “not wanting to”.
 
Uh because idiot the large majority of people can’t afford college unless they take out loans they can never pay back.
Is there anything more comical than left-wing “logic”.

Billy000 literally just made the case for universal college based on the fact that “the large majority” cannot afford college and can’t afford to pay it back.

So if they can’t do it individually, how will they do it as a nation? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

You literally just admitted that universal college would collapse the United States as the “large majority” already can’t afford it. And that’s without paying for the freeloaders. :laugh:
 
Uh because idiot the large majority of people can’t afford college unless they take out loans they can never pay back.
Then they shouldn’t take the loan.

Besides, that’s idiotic left-wing propaganda that you were too stupid to recognize. I’ve known hundreds of people with college loans (including physicians with over $250,000 in loans) and every last one of them was able to pay it back.

You are too stupid to recognize the difference between “unable to” and “not wanting to”.
Yeah obviously it’s better not to take the loan, but the point is, in order to get a full education they must. Doesn’t that seem wrong to you? Educated people benefit society in general.
 
Uh because idiot the large majority of people can’t afford college unless they take out loans they can never pay back.
Is there anything more comical than left-wing “logic”.

Billy000 literally just made the case for universal college based on the fact that “the large majority” cannot afford college and can’t afford to pay it back.

So if they can’t do it individually, how will they do it as a nation? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

You literally just admitted that universal college would collapse the United States as the “large majority” already can’t afford it. And that’s without paying for the freeloaders. :laugh:
Hey idiot not ever American wants to go to college such as yourself. The people who can go easily could with such a system. The price tag has already been estimated at 70 billion per year which while is a lot, it is a fraction of overall US budget per year.
 
it’s a phrase used by republicans to denigrate the left for wanting tuition free college or socialized healthcare, but they don’t really understand how these concepts are no different than programs already in place.

When a republican’s house is on fire or they need police assistance do they pay the responders personally? Uh no. They keep the “free shit”. You see, something like free tuition or socialized medicine are no different. All of these programs are paid for with tax payer revenue. Bernie, after all, has tax proposals to pay for his ideas.

Yes, they go bat shit over stuff like "Obama phones" without considering that these phones are a cheap way of saving tax dollars. Start with: If you are out of work, and have bad credit, how do you get a phone? Without a phone, how do you find a job? If you are a single mom on welfare and you don't have a phone, how can your child's school contact you in an emergency?

How does your case worker, parole officer, prospective employer get in touch with you? They would have to travel from their office to knock on your door, and hope that person is at home, wasting time and resources to go looking for them. If you are an elderly person, how do you call for an abulance, or other assistance? So for $25 per month, per family - $300 per year, you can give the poorest of the poor emergency cell phone service, because even if your phone is out of time, a 911 call will go through.

Is that all, $25.00? Then why don't they go to McDonald's and work three hours a month and get their own phone?

Because McDonald's won’t hire them without a phone.

Did you not read my post?

Wooo now. Back up. Why would McDonald's not hire them without a phone? WTF is going on there in Canada? Our poor are not penniless. In fact in the USA, people who accept every available means of welfare live the same lifestyle as working middle-class people.

Census: Americans in ‘Poverty’ Typically Have Cell Phones, Computers, TVs, VCRS, AC, Washers, Dryers and Microwaves

https://nypost.com/2013/08/19/when-welfare-pays-better-than-work/

Weird huh...the Kenyan hands out taxpayer funded cell phones in every shithole ghetto in America and since then homelessness has skyrocketed to levels seen only in thirdworld nations... Dragonlady the filth among us have cell phones...WTF, why hasn’t McDonalds put them to work?
 
Uh because idiot the large majority of people can’t afford college unless they take out loans they can never pay back.
Then they shouldn’t take the loan.

Besides, that’s idiotic left-wing propaganda that you were too stupid to recognize. I’ve known hundreds of people with college loans (including physicians with over $250,000 in loans) and every last one of them was able to pay it back.

You are too stupid to recognize the difference between “unable to” and “not wanting to”.
Yeah obviously it’s better not to take the loan, but the point is, in order to get a full education they must. Doesn’t that seem wrong to you? Educated people benefit society in general.

Educated people benefit society in general.

Not educated deadbeats with useless degrees.
 
Uh because idiot the large majority of people can’t afford college unless they take out loans they can never pay back.
Then they shouldn’t take the loan.

Besides, that’s idiotic left-wing propaganda that you were too stupid to recognize. I’ve known hundreds of people with college loans (including physicians with over $250,000 in loans) and every last one of them was able to pay it back.

You are too stupid to recognize the difference between “unable to” and “not wanting to”.
Yeah obviously it’s better not to take the loan, but the point is, in order to get a full education they must. Doesn’t that seem wrong to you? Educated people benefit society in general.

Educated people benefit society in general.

Not educated deadbeats with useless degrees.

Are we still debating another BillyBullshit thread.

This guy needs his own forum....The Asswipe forum.
 

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