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Okay so your entire argument is that this is simply a case of "federal land grab"? You are 100% convinced this bill was NOT proposed to protect the interests of private companies over regular citizens? Why is that exactly? You do know these there are politicians right?Liberals Unite? Considering the source, FAIL....Why do you ass clowns vote for these scum bags?
Senate Passes Resolution To Scrap EPA Clean Water Rules
This EPA proposal was nothing more than an outrageous attempt at a federal land grab....Had nothing...ZIP ZERO NADA to do with limiting pollution...
Lol the obvious difference between regulations and lawsuits is that regulations keep illegal behavior from happening in the first place.What the fuck?Good god man lol.Oh you mean a lawsuit that would be secured by the government? Lol you people kill me.
Of course you forget the difference between the highly skilled corporate lawyers and average joe's lawyers. The burden of proof of a health hazard inflicting harm on an individual is on the plaintiff. Do you really think it's that easy?
Yeah, because we all know that no average Joe has ever won when suing a giant corporation.
Are liberals all idiots?
Law suits don't give vast powers to unelected bureaucrats who build their empires by persecuting people subject to their authority. Government regulatory agencies are an example of using a sledge hammer to crack a walnut. They cause far more damage than they prevent.
Tell me whats better: regulations that would keep a person from dying/getting ill in the first place, or a lawsuit from a poor family suing a wealthy corporation over a death of a relative?
Hmm.
regulations are always after the fact. If they prevent someone from dying, that means someone already died from the thing the regulation prevents. In other words, regulations are no more proactive than lawsuits.
Next stupid argument.
Okay sure, maybe a lot regulations have been inspired by people dying from something and then the fed gov steps in and prevents it from happening again? Lol why is that a bad thing? Of cokes they are proactive.
Man your brain is fried. Maybe it was Fox News that did it. Maybe it was your family dinner table growing up. Either way, you need a serious wake up call.
You were just whining that lawsuits are filed only after someone is harmed. The same goes for regulations. Furthermore, how are regulations enforced? With fines. In other words, they do the same thing lawsuits do: impose a cost on the perpetrator for the harm he causes.
You have to wonder whether drinking heavy-metal polluted water might not explain some of GOOPer opinions...
Okay so your entire argument is that this is simply a case of "federal land grab"? You are 100% convinced this bill was NOT proposed to protect the interests of private companies over regular citizens? Why is that exactly? You do know these there are politicians right?Liberals Unite? Considering the source, FAIL....Why do you ass clowns vote for these scum bags?
Senate Passes Resolution To Scrap EPA Clean Water Rules
This EPA proposal was nothing more than an outrageous attempt at a federal land grab....Had nothing...ZIP ZERO NADA to do with limiting pollution...
Most harmed? Are you kidding me?! Not even close.Okay so your entire argument is that this is simply a case of "federal land grab"? You are 100% convinced this bill was NOT proposed to protect the interests of private companies over regular citizens? Why is that exactly? You do know these there are politicians right?Liberals Unite? Considering the source, FAIL....Why do you ass clowns vote for these scum bags?
Senate Passes Resolution To Scrap EPA Clean Water Rules
This EPA proposal was nothing more than an outrageous attempt at a federal land grab....Had nothing...ZIP ZERO NADA to do with limiting pollution...
The people who would be harmed the most by the bill are farmers and ranchers - regular citizens, in other words.
Um okay so regulations created before newer regulations? Umm okay. What's your point?Lol why are you so convinced that a company wouldn't - at least inadvertently - allow some kind of toxic substance into a body of water because there was no law to keep it from happening? These companies are extra careful to follow establish EPA laws to prevent legal ramifications. Without those laws, it would be easy to get careless.How do you people not understand where your drinking water comes from? There MUST be laws that keep these sites clean and safe. I don't give a shit if that's considered "big government".I've read the language in the bill. That want to change the language that says the clean water act applies to the "navigable waters of the United States" to say just "waters of the United States." That would give it the authority to regulate any land that ever had any water on it, which means every square inch of it.
The last thing this country needs is to give the EPA that kind of power.
O\ur drinking water is already clean. We don't need to give the EPA the power to regulate every puddle on a golf course or my front lawn.
There is no justification for giving the EPA more power. The motive for doing so is the desire to destroy capitalism and our industrial society.
Go fuck yourself.
You people have this fantasy in your minds that agencies like the EPA are made of power hungry fascists. If anything, such fascists would thrive in the private sector. That's where the money is.
Those laws were already in place before the new regulations.
Lol the obvious difference between regulations and lawsuits is that regulations keep illegal behavior from happening in the first place.What the fuck?Good god man lol.Yeah, because we all know that no average Joe has ever won when suing a giant corporation.
Are liberals all idiots?
Law suits don't give vast powers to unelected bureaucrats who build their empires by persecuting people subject to their authority. Government regulatory agencies are an example of using a sledge hammer to crack a walnut. They cause far more damage than they prevent.
Tell me whats better: regulations that would keep a person from dying/getting ill in the first place, or a lawsuit from a poor family suing a wealthy corporation over a death of a relative?
Hmm.
regulations are always after the fact. If they prevent someone from dying, that means someone already died from the thing the regulation prevents. In other words, regulations are no more proactive than lawsuits.
Next stupid argument.
Okay sure, maybe a lot regulations have been inspired by people dying from something and then the fed gov steps in and prevents it from happening again? Lol why is that a bad thing? Of cokes they are proactive.
Man your brain is fried. Maybe it was Fox News that did it. Maybe it was your family dinner table growing up. Either way, you need a serious wake up call.
You were just whining that lawsuits are filed only after someone is harmed. The same goes for regulations. Furthermore, how are regulations enforced? With fines. In other words, they do the same thing lawsuits do: impose a cost on the perpetrator for the harm he causes.
Insulting the opponent is in the liberal play book....Idiot.Lol. If I want clean water, I'll buy a water filter. Hell, I've guzzled water from the garden hose as a kid. Who needs government regulating our water?
Do you like calling people names? The sad thing on forums like these is nobody can take jokes...
Most harmed? Are you kidding me?! Not even close.Okay so your entire argument is that this is simply a case of "federal land grab"? You are 100% convinced this bill was NOT proposed to protect the interests of private companies over regular citizens? Why is that exactly? You do know these there are politicians right?Liberals Unite? Considering the source, FAIL....Why do you ass clowns vote for these scum bags?
Senate Passes Resolution To Scrap EPA Clean Water Rules
This EPA proposal was nothing more than an outrageous attempt at a federal land grab....Had nothing...ZIP ZERO NADA to do with limiting pollution...
The people who would be harmed the most by the bill are farmers and ranchers - regular citizens, in other words.
An ability to recognize when the only response your side has is "I know you are, but what am I?"...decidedly.You have to wonder whether drinking heavy-metal polluted water might not explain some of GOOPer opinions...
To hear certain liberals talk, there's a reason why we have these regulations... well they haven't helped. There's still something in the water.
SOME regulations are in place after the fact. Again, I don't understand why this is a bad thing. It prevents future incidents. It prevents needless lawsuits from happening again. So what if everything isn't perceived to be a bad thing right away?Lol the obvious difference between regulations and lawsuits is that regulations keep illegal behavior from happening in the first place.What the fuck?Good god man lol.
Tell me whats better: regulations that would keep a person from dying/getting ill in the first place, or a lawsuit from a poor family suing a wealthy corporation over a death of a relative?
Hmm.
regulations are always after the fact. If they prevent someone from dying, that means someone already died from the thing the regulation prevents. In other words, regulations are no more proactive than lawsuits.
Next stupid argument.
Okay sure, maybe a lot regulations have been inspired by people dying from something and then the fed gov steps in and prevents it from happening again? Lol why is that a bad thing? Of cokes they are proactive.
Man your brain is fried. Maybe it was Fox News that did it. Maybe it was your family dinner table growing up. Either way, you need a serious wake up call.
You were just whining that lawsuits are filed only after someone is harmed. The same goes for regulations. Furthermore, how are regulations enforced? With fines. In other words, they do the same thing lawsuits do: impose a cost on the perpetrator for the harm he causes.
hmmm, no they don't, tard. First, you've already conceded the point that regulations are imposed after the fact. Second, before the regulation was enacted, the behavior wasn't illegal, so your argument begs the question. And third, regulations are enforced by imposing fines on corporations and local governments. If they prevented illegal behavior, then no one would ever be fined. Since that obviously isn't the case, they obviously don't prevent illegal behavior.
Not convinced. My response is based on FACT....Private companies? From where did you come up with THAT garbage?Okay so your entire argument is that this is simply a case of "federal land grab"? You are 100% convinced this bill was NOT proposed to protect the interests of private companies over regular citizens? Why is that exactly? You do know these there are politicians right?Liberals Unite? Considering the source, FAIL....Why do you ass clowns vote for these scum bags?
Senate Passes Resolution To Scrap EPA Clean Water Rules
This EPA proposal was nothing more than an outrageous attempt at a federal land grab....Had nothing...ZIP ZERO NADA to do with limiting pollution...
No one gives a shit about a farmer whose water supply only affects him. People give a shit if said farmer's water supply affects the general public. That's the difference.Most harmed? Are you kidding me?! Not even close.Okay so your entire argument is that this is simply a case of "federal land grab"? You are 100% convinced this bill was NOT proposed to protect the interests of private companies over regular citizens? Why is that exactly? You do know these there are politicians right?Liberals Unite? Considering the source, FAIL....Why do you ass clowns vote for these scum bags?
Senate Passes Resolution To Scrap EPA Clean Water Rules
This EPA proposal was nothing more than an outrageous attempt at a federal land grab....Had nothing...ZIP ZERO NADA to do with limiting pollution...
The people who would be harmed the most by the bill are farmers and ranchers - regular citizens, in other words.
Of course they are. They both have lots of land with "waters of the United States" on them. The EPA would just love to tell farmers they can't spay chemicals on their crops.
Um okay so it's common sense that toxic waste harms the water supply.
This is an nonissueUm okay so it's common sense that toxic waste harms the water supply.
No, that can't be right! You're using science again! Everyone knows science is demonic...Ben Carson said so. Obviously he's been drinking polluted water for a very long time and it hasn't harmed him, has it?
This is an nonissueUm okay so it's common sense that toxic waste harms the water supply.
No, that can't be right! You're using science again! Everyone knows science is demonic...Ben Carson said so. Obviously he's been drinking polluted water for a very long time and it hasn't harmed him, has it?
The EPA is nonexistent here in the northern plains...This is an nonissueUm okay so it's common sense that toxic waste harms the water supply.
No, that can't be right! You're using science again! Everyone knows science is demonic...Ben Carson said so. Obviously he's been drinking polluted water for a very long time and it hasn't harmed him, has it?
Those fish you fry...how's the water quality where you catch them?
The EPA is nonexistent here in the northern plains...This is an nonissueUm okay so it's common sense that toxic waste harms the water supply.
No, that can't be right! You're using science again! Everyone knows science is demonic...Ben Carson said so. Obviously he's been drinking polluted water for a very long time and it hasn't harmed him, has it?
Those fish you fry...how's the water quality where you catch them?
How are you not getting this? These regulations keep the natural water clean. Without them, bad things will happen because of corporate decisions.Not convinced. My response is based on FACT....Private companies? From where did you come up with THAT garbage?Okay so your entire argument is that this is simply a case of "federal land grab"? You are 100% convinced this bill was NOT proposed to protect the interests of private companies over regular citizens? Why is that exactly? You do know these there are politicians right?Liberals Unite? Considering the source, FAIL....Why do you ass clowns vote for these scum bags?
Senate Passes Resolution To Scrap EPA Clean Water Rules
This EPA proposal was nothing more than an outrageous attempt at a federal land grab....Had nothing...ZIP ZERO NADA to do with limiting pollution...
One of the pillars of the stability of this nation are the rights of private property owners to not be threatened by government takings.
The water up here is as clean as the pure driven snow, without the help of the federal government...The EPA is nonexistent here in the northern plains...This is an nonissueUm okay so it's common sense that toxic waste harms the water supply.
No, that can't be right! You're using science again! Everyone knows science is demonic...Ben Carson said so. Obviously he's been drinking polluted water for a very long time and it hasn't harmed him, has it?
Those fish you fry...how's the water quality where you catch them?
Which is not what I asked you, although your tendency to jump from one topic to another is an answer in itself.
