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That's different. Somehow. It just is.well Dean and Chris do it.....Really?
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And you've never offered a valid refutation. Just like you're doing now, all you've got is "Nuh-UH!!"
But it's okay when liberals do that.
Right?
That's all you've got? One homeless lady that makes a stupid remark? And you're basing your whole position that they ALL feel that way on THAT?
Way to go......
Once someone on welfare learns how to game the system, it's all over. No one is ever going to get them off welfare. Why would they want to do that? They will NEVER have a take home pay equal to the thousands that they get by playing the system.
No, I don't. It was dumb.Good Gaea, why? You really think someone else giving his opinion refutes the claim I made about myself?
No. I saw an opportunity and took it. Even you have to admit it was pretty good.
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These right wingers base their entire arguements on the way they. They FEEL people WANT to be on WELFARE. They FEEL that help MAKES people dependent on govt. They FEEL that govt help HURTS a humans quest to be better.
There is no way to counter feelings. No links, just feelings, sarcasm and anecodotes.
Can you answer the question? What has the left done for the downtrodden? NOTE: Keeping them dependent on government really isn't helping them.It must not have worked THAT well or you wouldn't be on here crying about them being on welfare.
What has the left done?
Job training, college scholarships, job placement opportunities, low cost childcare, small business loans.
All opposed by Republicans
Yes Eddie, in the absence of a logical rebuttal turn to your pat responses. One of which is to proclaim "talking points"....just keep parroting those cliched CON$ervative talking points.Democrats want to keep minorities poor and dependent on government. They callously promise to improve the lives of the downtrodden, yet somehow manage to keep them just barely scraping by, still dependent on government, knowing they'll keep receiving votes.
Democrats don't give a shit about minorities. They just want political power.
Have you ever had a thought of your own???
Oh sure.
Why are you here? You offer nothing of substance to the forum. You are a drive by poster.
Find another hobby.
Once someone on welfare learns how to game the system, it's all over. No one is ever going to get them off welfare. Why would they want to do that? They will NEVER have a take home pay equal to the thousands that they get by playing the system.
i had a woman on my route who was on welfare for at least 15 years...she lived before this on another guys route in the office,welfare then too......had 5 kids with 5 different guys......when the welfare bill in the nineties went into effect,guess who suddenly had to think about getting a job?.....and boy was she pissed.....her neighbor was telling me that she felt it wasnt right because,she had ZERO job skills....what am i to do?......well she had to wait tables at the Dennys down the street......ok back to our story......
Government programs do help millions of Americans of all backgrounds escape poverty. Just because some are unable to break the cycle of poverty is no reason to assume that none are
Created dependency. OWS is one of many results.
Yep. I can see where "Job training, college scholarships, job placement opportunities, low cost childcare, small business loans" would create dependency.
And where the hell did this OWS coment come from?
For the past thirty plus years I have worked with many black engineers, scientists, military officers, soldiers and managers who were succeeding in life. Almost all came from lower middle class or poor backgrounds. Very, very few came from what could remotely be considered a wealthy background. They could all point to some point where either their parents or grandparents had relied on government assistance or relied on government programs that provided job training or assistance in employment opportunities.
Government programs do help millions of Americans of all backgrounds escape poverty. Just because some are unable to break the cycle of poverty is no reason to assume that none are
Yep. To the pont that neither are trusted.Can you answer the question? What has the left done for the downtrodden? NOTE: Keeping them dependent on government really isn't helping them.
What has the left done?
Job training, college scholarships, job placement opportunities, low cost childcare, small business loans.
All opposed by Republicans
ok so BOTH Parties have done something helpful......they both have also fucked things up at one time or another..........
The real answer is not government but private industry.
The poor need not just jobs but careers. A job will help you pay the bills but will not help you escape poverty. A career will provide potential to take care of your family while you accumulate personal wealth and eventually retire
The poor are only offered jobs right now. $7.50 to start and potentially $10 an hour if you stick around. There are not enough jobs out there right now that lead to careers. The path out of poverty is becoming harder and harder to find. We can train the poor to do more complex jobs, but if those jobs are not there it does no good
Once someone on welfare learns how to game the system, it's all over. No one is ever going to get them off welfare. Why would they want to do that? They will NEVER have a take home pay equal to the thousands that they get by playing the system.
i had a woman on my route who was on welfare for at least 15 years...she lived before this on another guys route in the office,welfare then too......had 5 kids with 5 different guys......when the welfare bill in the nineties went into effect,guess who suddenly had to think about getting a job?.....and boy was she pissed.....her neighbor was telling me that she felt it wasnt right because,she had ZERO job skills....what am i to do?......well she had to wait tables at the Dennys down the street......ok back to our story......
I remember that welfare bill....under Clinton.
I meant what I said. Leftists have made that ridiculous claim. And they indeed have. In the thread I linked, look for Dragon and taichiliberal. They're beating the revised history drum.when you said...
"On this board, leftists have also claimed that the Founding Fathers were JUST LIKE modern liberals."
...did you mean some leftists, most leftists or all leftists?
Is English your second language?
i'm just trying to figure out if you meant some leftists, most leftists or all leftists. would you mind clarifying?
The real answer is not government but private industry.
The poor need not just jobs but careers. A job will help you pay the bills but will not help you escape poverty. A career will provide potential to take care of your family while you accumulate personal wealth and eventually retire
The poor are only offered jobs right now. $7.50 to start and potentially $10 an hour if you stick around. There are not enough jobs out there right now that lead to careers. The path out of poverty is becoming harder and harder to find. We can train the poor to do more complex jobs, but if those jobs are not there it does no good
a career job?.....they are getting harder and harder to find....
the guy i back you can trust.....join us.....VOTE.....Firefly/Chicolini......if your for it...they are against it....Yep. To the pont that neither are trusted.What has the left done?
Job training, college scholarships, job placement opportunities, low cost childcare, small business loans.
All opposed by Republicans
ok so BOTH Parties have done something helpful......they both have also fucked things up at one time or another..........
the guy i back you can trust.....join us.....VOTE.....Firefly/Chicolini......if your for it...they are against it....Yep. To the pont that neither are trusted.ok so BOTH Parties have done something helpful......they both have also fucked things up at one time or another..........
the guy i back you can trust.....join us.....VOTE.....Firefly/Chicolini......if your for it...they are against it....Yep. To the pont that neither are trusted.ok so BOTH Parties have done something helpful......they both have also fucked things up at one time or another..........
the guy i back you can trust.....join us.....VOTE.....Firefly/Chicolini......if your for it...they are against it....Yep. To the pont that neither are trusted.
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