Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[Cecilie1200]

Why does your advocacy stop at birth then?

How do you know it does? Do you know Flash in real life? Follow him around? Snoop around in his tax returns to find out which charities he donates to?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Taxpayers often end up paying for unwanted children one way or another. Birth control is a hell of a lot cheaper than a child. Why not fund it or subsidize it?

For one thing, because it won't be "instead of". It will be "in addition to", because the left is still going to insist that we keep funding people cradle to grave.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Basically it is a simple medical procedure with a complicated ethical component. In terms of regulating clinics and those who use the service it should be the same as any other comparable medical procedure. It isn’t a question of value.

Why don't you start by agreeing to hold abortion clinics to the same health, safety, and sanitation standards as other medical clinics, and then we'll talk about how "oppressed" they are?

 

[Cecilie1200]

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"Look at this great meme I found about what I just KNOW the other side thinks! Who needs to actually talk to them?!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

Responsibility. What we as individuals as well as collectively have towards others. You feel responsible for ending abortion, but you don’t feel responsibility for what happens to them after as a consequence?

Especially now that you have removed choice? Everything you and Flash say seems to indicate that once the child is born, tough luck.

You don’t believe in a collective responsibility towards children.

Once again, you are projecting onto him what you want to hear in his words, not what he actually said. And you are being offensive and personally insulting to him.

He's right, and you should set a much better example of behavior as someone who presumes to judge the behavior of others on the board.

 

[Cecilie1200]

There is no guarentee it won’t and a choice is only a choice when you are free to make it.

"Free to make a choice" is not the same thing as "having all inconveniences about my choice borne by other people".

 

[Calypso Jones]

The damn choice shoulda been whether you were going to have unprotected sex or not.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Tell me how Democrats are responsible for poverty and how Republicans re fighting poverty

Easy, both of them are ineffectual, one causes it, and the other refuses to stop it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Got it. You’re a man.

And my idea is to follow the Constitution and let voters of each state determine their laws.

And as far as ad hom attacks, weren’t you the man who called me a dipshit for refusing to yield to the liberal position?

This is what he sounds like. What all liberals who talk down to women sound like regarding abortion sound like:

‘Handmaid’s Tale’ Pro-Abortion Activists Protest Outside Justice Amy Coney Barrett’s House

One protester thought Coney-Barrett doesn't have any idea what it is like to have a pregnancy full-term.

legalinsurrection.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

You feel responsible for ending abortion, but you don’t feel responsibility for what happens to them after as a consequence?

Instead of teaching poor families in poverty how to prosper, you advocate for programs that perpetuate it. Welfare, food stamps. Did you ever stop to consider the consequences of that? Why not programs that encourage them to pursue an education that could lead to a well-paying job? Ever consider the benefits of that?

No, of course, you haven't. You don't want these families to prosper, nor their children, you want them to continually be reliant on an entity that has no intention of seeing them prosper. Giving them barely enough money to get by? Hardly enough to sustain them from week to week.

That is tantamount to prolonging suffering, not ending it. So tell me, how is it you care for children after birth?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Do you want to prevent suffering? Teach abstinence. Teach personal responsibility and self-discipline. Teach women how to be prepared when the time comes to conceive a child. Before then, tell them there are methods to take to prevent conception altogether, no conception, no pregnancy, no abortion, and no child to suffer in poverty.

The timing isn't all that hard to grasp. Spare us the emotionally feeble arguments about when we truly care for a child. We care for a child in every stage, from conception until they are grown enough to face the wide-open world on their own.

And for the love of the gods, Coyote, stop encouraging women to kill them in the womb! Give them more options to consider, and maybe abortion may not have to be the only one.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Holy shit!! Can't you people ever come up with an original thought, an idea of your own . All that you do is to continue to bleat party line talking points like "free shit" and" baby killers' without actually putting any thought into the issue

Read the two posts above this one, and consider putting more thought into your own posts before you consider barking your sanctimony at others.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Responsibility.

Exists before conception, during pregnancy, and after birth.

Abortion is a woman who willingly had unprotected sex acknowledging they 1) acted irresponsibly in the first place, and 2) would shirk the responsibility if forced to follow through with their pregnancy.

The simplest thing you can ask a man and a woman to do is to weigh the consequences of their actions.

Condoms, contraceptives. Everything is there to help prevent a pregnancy from ever happening.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You believe that the majority of Americans are educated on a court decision that was made almost 50 years ago? That's truly what you believe? Ok.

In fact, people like ProgressivePatriot rely on such to further their agenda.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Tell me how Democrats are responsible for poverty and how Republicans re fighting poverty

Once again, read my posts.

It changes everything for women in the other half of the country that have or will pass laws banning abortion.

It changes nothing for the states that legalize it. The needless, wanton slaughter of viable healthy unborn children will continue. Take delight in that, you ghoulish sadist.

 

[TemplarKormac]

3100 posts later and we understand why there is no compromise on this issue…

There never will be. And I for one, will never compromise on my positions.

 

[beagle9]

Responsibility. What we as individuals as well as collectively have towards others. You feel responsible for ending abortion, but you don’t feel responsibility for what happens to them after as a consequence?

Especially now that you have removed choice? Everything you and Flash say seems to indicate that once the child is born, tough luck.

You don’t believe in a collective responsibility towards children.

Once a child is born then tough luck eh ? Nope, no one is advocating or saying that in life, it's being made up.......... Many children grew up in extreme poverty throughout our nation's history, and guess what ? They became some of our most greatest citizen's of all time. Out of struggle's comes many great lesson's in life, and it molds character, strength, and endurance into a person's DNA going forward. The collective is but just one part of our design in our nation, otherwise in which collectively helps within our set up, so if struggle's are in play, then we have multiple ways of helping, but snuffing a life out due to unwarranted fear of a supposed struggle to come is unexceptable.

Now if the mother is a PO-Crap, and she abuses a child that has been born into her care, then she is simply a PO-Crap, and she shouldn't be able to use the collective as a way to kill her baby for her convenience just so she can hide the fact that she's a PO-Crap in life.

She should be responsible for her actions in life, and she should pay a price for being a PO-Crap who would abuse her child in life or worse kill an unborn child out of convenience in order to hide the fact that she's a PO-Crap in life.... She shouldn't be set up to become easily a repeat offender by giving her the chance to abuse everyone with her bull crap in life. Becoming an accessory to people's irresponsible acts in life is an absolute tragedy.

No one should be forced to aid and abet the horrible acts of violence taking place in the womb against the innocent, and all because of the irresponsible acts going on outside of the host body in which is then shockingly leading to the act of attacking that which is growing healthy inside the body over unwarranted lies and fears of a bad future, otherwise if don't follow the cult or trend that has been created around the cult.

 

[beagle9]

That’s why we don’t think the State (federal) should issue blanket laws for everyone. Leave it up to the individual states, as our Founders intended.

They'll never do it because they are and have been on this path of oppressing the many at the behest of a few since the sixties. They fear losing any mind control in which they've established or acquired over these years, because they fear it will lead to losing all sorts of other control's in which they've established or have since engaged in over these year's.

 

[eagle1462010]

How do you know it does? Do you know Flash in real life? Follow him around? Snoop around in his tax returns to find out which charities he donates to?

The left just make shit up...........Lie and deceive. Do whatever it takes to gain power.

This is who they remind me of in History...........Before Lenin and Stalin were done.......nearly 60 million people died.

 

[eagle1462010]

Responsibility. What we as individuals as well as collectively have towards others. You feel responsible for ending abortion, but you don’t feel responsibility for what happens to them after as a consequence?

Especially now that you have removed choice? Everything you and Flash say seems to indicate that once the child is born, tough luck.

You don’t believe in a collective responsibility towards children.

LOL

So you just KILL THEM............We KILL THEM FOR THEIR OWN GOOD.

You are a parrty of BUTCHERS.