Russian Collusion In A Nutshell

[edthecynic]

The FBI is claiming it was their action, but the clear story is emerging that these were not "listening" type spies. These were people trying to DIRTY UP several of the Trump staff. By plying them with liquor and gorgeous women and than introducing them to Australian Ambassador

Geeezzz, how STUPID do you have to be to swallow that Limbaugh Lie??????

Has nothing to do with Limbaugh. It's all CSpan and interviews with Page, Papadopolous, Caputo and the others being tortured by special counsel after being "stung" by spies in the campaign. They and their defense counsels all compared notes and put the picture together. Which is being CONFIRMED right now in Congressional hearings and whenever the FBI releases the notes that they are holding from the public under contempt of Congress threats.

The Inspector General ain't done. THe next report is on the Russia Investigation that the FBI started before Trump was even nominated. And there's a group of 40 DOJ investigators appointed by Sessions working on this right now in Arkansas.

You don't know much do you? Worst political domestic spy scandal in our lifetimes. You'll know eventually..
1st clue is -- neither Page, nor Papadopolous nor Caputo nor Flynn or any other of the folks that were entrapped by this Intelligence sting operation have had their sentencing. It's been delayed over and over again. Because of errors by Mueller and all this new information. My bet is -- most of this is gonna get overturned. OR -- the appeals will drop BOMBSHELLS of information that have come together since they were convicted.

Bring it on. EVENTUALLY -- even CNN will have to report it.

FAKE NEWS!

 

[edthecynic]

Offered PapaDop $3000 to come to London for a paper and then sent Mifsud to him in London to "dirty him up" for later FBI entrapment. YOUR GOVT interfered with an election.

Only if "YOUR" government is Russia. You do know it was Russia, not the FBI who sent Mifsud to PapaD. Only America-hating scum like Limbaugh tell your version of the story.
Why do you hate America?

You didn't read the links did ya? Nifsud was working for Halper. Halper BROUGHT Papadopolous to London on false pretense so that he could be "stung" with this information. And LATER -- when interrogated by the FBI make errors in representations about the timing of the meetings. That's exactly what this Intel Operation was designed to do. Dirty up a bunch of Trump people with phony Russian contacts with some of the worlds' sketchiest intel assets and then leave it to the FBI to indict these people on the flimsiest of charges. In NONE of these cases, did the person indicted and convicted do anything wrong but make ARGUABLE "false representations" about time or exact wording, etc.

Was NOT RUSSIA that contacted Papadopolous. Not at all. It was ENTRAPMENT by the spies and intel assets sent into the campaign..

The only spies in Tramp's campaign were RUSSIANS, and you know it!
Nifsud was working for RUSSIA and Halper was working for the GOP, he was Reagan's favorite spy.
You keep repeating the Russia Limbaugh Lie as if it wasn't a Russia Limbaugh Lie. Why would anyone plan to "dirty" up Donnie Dirt Bag when everyone was convinced he would lose. Tramp has beed a DIRTY Russian money launderer since 1987, everyone in the NY metro area knew it, and you can be sure Mueller knows it too.

 

[Mac1958]

A few years ago, Republicans would hammer Democrats for being soft on countries who attacked America.

Today they rationalize it.

About three years ago, to be exact.
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Uh.....I can count the countries that attacked us on one hand and also point out the fact that we hammered them.
The British, Germany, Italy, Japan, Iraq, and so-on.

On the other hand, Democrats tend to love countries that attack us.....like Iran.
Iran has done enough over the last 30 plus years for us to declare war on them and wipe their asses out, but instead Obama gave them one of our most top secret drones and billions in cash. He also allowed the technology that the CIA developed to spy on political opponents and the American people to fall into the hands of our enemies....for absolutely nothing.

And, getting back to the point...

Russia was considered our enemy by the Right until a few days after Trump took that ride down the escalator.

After that, what Trump says, goes, no matter what.
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No.....I was on point.
Russia is a threat.
They have always been a threat.
But it doesn't make any sense to falsely accuse them.
Especially since Hillary made a show of pushing the reset button.

Obama and Hillary were colluding with Russia and they're currently trying to frame Trump for it.

Obama and Hillary and the CIA and Mueller have nothing, zero, to do with the fact that Trumpsters very obviously lightened up, big time, on Putin and Russia the moment Trump opened his mouth about it. Trump spoke, and that was that.
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[mudwhistle]

A few years ago, Republicans would hammer Democrats for being soft on countries who attacked America.

Today they rationalize it.

About three years ago, to be exact.
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Uh.....I can count the countries that attacked us on one hand and also point out the fact that we hammered them.
The British, Germany, Italy, Japan, Iraq, and so-on.

On the other hand, Democrats tend to love countries that attack us.....like Iran.
Iran has done enough over the last 30 plus years for us to declare war on them and wipe their asses out, but instead Obama gave them one of our most top secret drones and billions in cash. He also allowed the technology that the CIA developed to spy on political opponents and the American people to fall into the hands of our enemies....for absolutely nothing.

And, getting back to the point...

Russia was considered our enemy by the Right until a few days after Trump took that ride down the escalator.

After that, what Trump says, goes, no matter what.
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No.....I was on point.
Russia is a threat.
They have always been a threat.
But it doesn't make any sense to falsely accuse them.
Especially since Hillary made a show of pushing the reset button.

Obama and Hillary were colluding with Russia and they're currently trying to frame Trump for it.

Obama and Hillary and the CIA and Mueller have nothing, zero, to do with the fact that Trumpsters very obviously lightened up, big time, on Putin and Russia the moment Trump opened his mouth about it. Trump spoke, and that was that.
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Correct.
Obama and Hillary had nothing to do with Trump policies, even though they constantly try to tell him what he should be doing.
This is like the Cleveland Browns telling New England how to win Superbowls.
FYI, your impressions of Trump’s relationships with Russia are based on news reports from a corrupt media, not on actual events.

 

[Mac1958]

FYI, your impressions of Trump’s relationships with Russia are based on news reports from a corrupt media, not on actual events.

I know, "fake news".



And I haven't said anything about Trump's relationship with Russia. I merely pointed out the obvious, that when Trump spoke about it, we immediately saw talk radio -- er, the Trumpsters, obediently follow along.
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[mudwhistle]

FYI, your impressions of Trump’s relationships with Russia are based on news reports from a corrupt media, not on actual events.

I know, "fake news".



And I haven't said anything about Trump's relationship with Russia. I merely pointed out the obvious, that when Trump spoke about it, we immediately saw talk radio -- er, the Trumpsters, obediently follow along.
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I seriously doubt that.

 

[Correll]

A few years ago, Republicans would hammer Democrats for being soft on countries who attacked America.

Today they rationalize it.

It was, MAYBE, a couple of trolls.


That is not an excuse for a new Cold War.


Don't you WANT PEACE?

 

[mudwhistle]

A few years ago, Republicans would hammer Democrats for being soft on countries who attacked America.

Today they rationalize it.

It was, MAYBE, a couple of trolls.


That is not an excuse for a new Cold War.


Don't you WANT PEACE?

Anything good for America is bad for Democrats.

 

[Correll]

A few years ago, Republicans would hammer Democrats for being soft on countries who attacked America.

Today they rationalize it.

It was, MAYBE, a couple of trolls.


That is not an excuse for a new Cold War.


Don't you WANT PEACE?

Anything good for America is bad for Democrats.

THey are so ignorant. THey seem to think that Russia is a weak, defeated country that can easily and safely be pushed around to satisfy domestic partisan political needs.


They are just the type of morons to start WWIII.


They could get tens of millions, if not more killed, and they are obvious.

 

[jc456]

A few years ago, Republicans would hammer Democrats for being soft on countries who attacked America.

Today they rationalize it.

Some maybe. Others, like myself, recognize that this nonsense is counterproductive. No one is going to jail because they were online trolls. They will never be brought to justice making this a big damn waste of my tax dollars. Also of note is the hypocrisy of Americans who ignore the fact that WE DO THIS VERY SAME SHIT TO OTHER NATIONS

This isn't about "trolls."

A foreign government attacked our democratic institutions in an attempt to damage our country.

But because the Republican candidate unexpectedly won - and that candidate is deified almost as a God by his base - Republicans are attacking the people who are investigating those who attacked our country.

A year ago, Trump's worshippers were saying that Russia didn't attack us, that this was all #fakenews. They aren't saying that anymore. Or at least most of them aren't.

two points:
1. did Hitlery interfere in the primary elections, If so, she was caught right?
2. Did the US under obammy do the very same thing you're accusing russia of in the Isreal elections?

 

[iceberg]

None of those have anything to do with the goals of the investigation.

Mueller could have achieved the same results if he chose four random people out of the telephone book to investigate.

Wrong. There is a mountain of evidence you are choosing not to see.

which is?

sounds more like you're taking a lot of circumstantial crap and making it positive and true.

 

[Edgetho]

Since FDR, the Russians have been interfering in American Politics.

The communist Russians infiltrated the dimocrap scum party (Alger Hiss, et al) our scientific community (the Rosenbergs) they infiltrated our College Campuses and today, control them.

They've taken over our media. Almost completely.

But Putin gets a hard-on for Ubercunt because she dissed him and dimocrap scum have a Grand Mal seizure.

There is no reasoning with dimocrap scum. There is no point talking to them. There is no point proving them wrong, they'll just start another campaign of lies.

They'll have you running in circles, chasing your tail, trying to prove all their lies to be what they are -- Lies.

dimocraps are the absolute scum of the Earth. Period.

They do not deserve the Country that Patriots fought and died for to give them.

They deserve nothing.

they are scum

 

[edthecynic]

Obama cancelled America's manned space flight program and made us dependent on the Russians to do just about anything.

More scummy lies from the lying scum Right. The GOP started cutting NASA in 2004 under Rep. John Walsh, R-New York, chairman of the House Appropriations Veterans Affairs, Housing and Urban Development and independent agencies subcommittee, "I cannot commit this Congress and future Congresses to a program that is undefined," Walsh said.

NASA warns GOP on cuts to space program

GOP-backed legislation pending in Congress would thwart NASA’s push to end U.S. dependence on the Kremlin to send astronauts to the International Space Station, the agency is warning.

That was the generic excuse Obama used for everything that went wrong. "OMG...things are falling apart..because The GOP cut funding."
What the GOP did was reign Obama in because he increased our deficit by close to a trillion dollars in his first year, and was spending so much money that our debt was going to be $24 trillion by 2018.
You see, the Devil is in the details.
You figure if part of a program is asked to cut back, that gives Obama cart blanche to gut the program completely.....then blame the GOP for cutting the program.
Right now we have to rely on Russia for our Astronauts if they want to go to the ISS.
That was not the case before Obama.

It was also not the case before the GOP got a hold of the purse strings!

And it is Donnie Dirt Bag, the self proclaimed King Of Debt, who is now the $21 trillion national debt man.

 

[edthecynic]

Did the US under obammy do the very same thing you're accusing russia of in the Isreal elections?

No, and you know it.

 

[Billo_Really]

Of course. I figured that. But -- you've got a great start on putting all the pieces together here. Just remember that MOST of the folks being tortured by the Special Counsel were TARGETED very early in the campaign, by spies and intel assets who are now mostly disappeared from the face of the Earth -- who are all connected to Halper and have histories working for the CIA/DIA/FBI.

They were "stung" by folks PRETENDING to be in possession of Russian Intel BEFORE the "official" FBI investigation began. In HOPES of getting them to "leave out Russian contacts" or misrepresent these whacky sketchy contacts that set them up for problems in later FBI interviews.

That's not "planting an informant". It's not even just spying. It's a full-out Intel operation to compromise folks on purpose..

Is Manafort an FBI plant? Is Roger Stone and FBI plant? Is Popadopal-whatever an FBI plant? Is Michael Cohen and FBI plant? Is Donald Trump Jr. and FBI plant? Is Jared Kushner and FBI plant?

That latest indictment lays it all out in astonishing detail.

 

[Billo_Really]

There were several reasons why Hillary lost the election, but a cyber attack from a foreign gov't is not one of them. There is no evidence whatsoever that whatever hacking took place made a difference in the election results. NONE.

If there was no evidence, then why did 12 Russians just get indicted?

 

[Billo_Really]

Yet you have the Hillary campaign who's manager was representing SberBank of Russia that literally OWNS on paper 1/3 of ALL Russian assets. With ties to the Kremlin and HUNDREDS of nasty oligarchs and mafioso as bank clients. How come NO interest in that? Any one of the 100s of Russian oligarchs/mafia his firm was lobbying for could have EASILY hacked his phone and email.

Or you have Jill Stein, who's campaign for the Greens was JUICED by the Bernie screwing that the DNC did and cost Hillary 2 or maybe 3 states vote wise. SHE was sitting at an RT awards banquet DURING the campaign at Putin's table and got Pouty to hook her up with his top Kremlin foreign affairs people during the trip so she could give them "her plans for relations with Russia". She BRAGGED about it. And in turn RT gave her GLOWING coverage during the rest of HER campaign.

No one in the Russian witchhunt party is interested in that either. Why is that???

After 25 indictments and 4 convictions, it is definitely not a witch hunt.

 

[Billo_Really]

Here's one for you.....

I like how you fuckers think its okay for a baker not to bake a cake for a gay couple, but then you have a cow when Sanders is refused service at the Red Hen.

Fucking hypocrites!

 

[Billo_Really]

And yet NOT one of those convictions has ANYTHING to do with Russia, Russian collusion or Russian conspiracy, go figure.

You're a fucking traitor to this country.

The indictment spells it all out and it leads straight to the Russian government.

 

[Billo_Really]

The right answer is zero. I guess you're too dumb to know, you know nothing on the topic, until you do. In fact you have no idea if there's anything to find out about.


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But I have a great personality and can state the quadratic equation.