Save the planet - buy an electric car

[AntonToo]

not with current technology we could not make all power from non fossil sources. Maybe some day, but not in the foreseeable future.

an electric car or truck has a max range of 200 or so miles. after that it has to recharge for about 8 hours. Do you really think that would work for someone traveling across the country, or for a long haul trucker?

and you guys never consider the source of the recharge energy or the net energy loss when transferring from grid to battery to wheels to motion.

the day of the Jetsons is not here yet, sorry.

You need to check your facts.

Current Tesla Model S has up to 370 mile range.

Model S | Tesla

It can recharge 50% of that range in 20 min, 80% in 40 min.

Wow, and only $70,000 (without tax), what a bargain.

More like 80K if you want a stereo and wheel covers. LOL!
In a couple of years there will be more VW 'Things' on the road than Volts.

Actually teslas come loaded, the only options are colors, bigger wheels and Full Self Driving for $6000


If you want cheaper Model 3 is 25k cheaper, has 310mile range and charges EVEN FASTER.

Model 3 based SUV, Model Y should start rolling off the production line in a year. It will cost $55,000 fully loaded (without full self driving)

The model 3 looks more like a pregnant sedan than an SUV.
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that is not model 3, thats the upcoming cSUV Model Y, with Model X bellow it.

 

[Thinker101]

You need to check your facts.

Current Tesla Model S has up to 370 mile range.

Model S | Tesla

It can recharge 50% of that range in 20 min, 80% in 40 min.

Wow, and only $70,000 (without tax), what a bargain.

More like 80K if you want a stereo and wheel covers. LOL!
In a couple of years there will be more VW 'Things' on the road than Volts.

Actually teslas come loaded, the only options are colors, bigger wheels and Full Self Driving for $6000


If you want cheaper Model 3 is 25k cheaper, has 310mile range and charges EVEN FASTER.

Model 3 based SUV, Model Y should start rolling off the production line in a year. It will cost $55,000 fully loaded (without full self driving)

The model 3 looks more like a pregnant sedan than an SUV.
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that is not model 3, thats the upcoming cSUV Model Y, with Model X bellow it.

Oops, I meant model Y.

 

[Papageorgio]

Model Y, Model X? Model 3? Model S?

Lol! Some great marketing ideas from Tesla. They must use the same marketing firm as McDonald's used for the Bacon, Egg and Cheese Biscuit. Another really great name.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I used to get behind one of the few Volts I ever saw on the road every morning! That asshole would get on a two-lane road with a 55 mph speed limit and could not get that thing above 45 mph going downhill with a strong tailwind! I used my big SUV to blow his doors off every morning. He got so used to it he would pull off the road to let me pass and I never exceeded the speed limit!

You were in hurry? Why? Because always everyone is in hurry? Why?

I drove 45 miles to work. Why should I sit behind someone and burn more fuel at an inefficient speed because he drives an electric car with no power?

The Volt has the power to run at 90 to 100 if you want to. I drove it at normal speeds and it had a lot of power.

I have yet to see one able to maintain 55 mph. Maybe you are just lucky to have a decent model. Everyone who rides with me says I drive like a "grandpa" which I proudly am. The only time I ever see a Volt is in the right lane of an Interstate with everyone trying to safely pass them. I have NEVER been passed by a Volt.

They are just like any other car, good engine, gets good gas mileage. I test drove several, they can all go over 90, they can call move off a dime quickly. It seems you have no experience and biased against them because one Volt driver didn't drive the speed limit.

Hummer drivers have to been known to wash Chevy Volts out of their grills like bug splatter!

 

[Papageorgio]

You were in hurry? Why? Because always everyone is in hurry? Why?

I drove 45 miles to work. Why should I sit behind someone and burn more fuel at an inefficient speed because he drives an electric car with no power?

The Volt has the power to run at 90 to 100 if you want to. I drove it at normal speeds and it had a lot of power.

I have yet to see one able to maintain 55 mph. Maybe you are just lucky to have a decent model. Everyone who rides with me says I drive like a "grandpa" which I proudly am. The only time I ever see a Volt is in the right lane of an Interstate with everyone trying to safely pass them. I have NEVER been passed by a Volt.

They are just like any other car, good engine, gets good gas mileage. I test drove several, they can all go over 90, they can call move off a dime quickly. It seems you have no experience and biased against them because one Volt driver didn't drive the speed limit.

Hummer drivers have to been known to wash Chevy Volts out of their grills like bug splatter!

LOL!!!! The Volt is a bigger car than the Sprint, the Geo, the mini coopers.

I'll take my not having to get out and fill my car at a gas station in the middle of a snowstorm than my Suburban that needs filled every week.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I drove 45 miles to work. Why should I sit behind someone and burn more fuel at an inefficient speed because he drives an electric car with no power?

The Volt has the power to run at 90 to 100 if you want to. I drove it at normal speeds and it had a lot of power.

I have yet to see one able to maintain 55 mph. Maybe you are just lucky to have a decent model. Everyone who rides with me says I drive like a "grandpa" which I proudly am. The only time I ever see a Volt is in the right lane of an Interstate with everyone trying to safely pass them. I have NEVER been passed by a Volt.

They are just like any other car, good engine, gets good gas mileage. I test drove several, they can all go over 90, they can call move off a dime quickly. It seems you have no experience and biased against them because one Volt driver didn't drive the speed limit.

Hummer drivers have to been known to wash Chevy Volts out of their grills like bug splatter!

LOL!!!! The Volt is a bigger car than the Sprint, the Geo, the mini coopers.

I'll take my not having to get out and fill my car at a gas station in the middle of a snowstorm than my Suburban that needs filled every week.

If you lived where there aren't snowstorms, you wouldn't need a Volt anyway! If it works for you great! Just don't tell everyone else how great they are (which they are not) and that everyone should drive one!

 

[zaangalewa]

Around here, it's made with Natural Gas, Hydroelectric, Solar and Wind. There are, I believe, one coal fired plant left and it's on the chopping block. And WE have the coal but are smart enough not to burn it for electricity. Right now, 20% of all electric power come from Hydro, Solar and Wind. And it gets more and more each year. And are you aware that Hydro, Solar and Wind cost less than either the Coal or Natural Gas plants to operate. The electricity locally here is Hydroelectric. We haven't had a gas or coal fired plant for about 40 years. I can't help it that where you are from, people are dumber than a Box of Rock. Just one rock in that box. A Box of rocks would be smarter.

You keep lumping solar and wind in with hydro power when you know they have nothing to do with each other. Hydro is cheap, but wind and solar are several times more expensive. Furthermore, they require 100% backup from a reliable source of power, like coal.

The new house construction that uses solar has a zero electric daily cost of operation. In the daytime, it sells electric power to the Electric Company and at night it uses the grid and removes what it put in the grid during the daytime. Cost versus payback is estimated at 7 years. In 7 years, the cost savings pay for the added installation. After that, it's free.

And you believe that Hydroelectric is cheap? Wow, the cost of construction of a Dam Project can only be done at a national level. Before I went into the Service, I worked at Marrow Point and the cost of that project was way out of hand for anyone other than the United States Government. Over quite a number of years, it's paid for itself but it took it decades to do it. Solar and Wind are a far cry less expensive and pay for themselves in no more than 7 years.

How is that box of rock.

solar only works when the sun is out, not at night, not when its cloudy or raining or snowing. Nuclear is a much better option.

... said Ahmed, the dead terrorist. Nuclear power plants are a security problem.

so are tall buildings in big cities, the answer to that problem is to eliminate the terrorists, not cave in to them.

Sure. Same says Ahmed. He's really a very terrifying dead terrorist.

 

[Desperado]

Porsche Mission all Electric

 

[Papageorgio]

The Volt has the power to run at 90 to 100 if you want to. I drove it at normal speeds and it had a lot of power.

I have yet to see one able to maintain 55 mph. Maybe you are just lucky to have a decent model. Everyone who rides with me says I drive like a "grandpa" which I proudly am. The only time I ever see a Volt is in the right lane of an Interstate with everyone trying to safely pass them. I have NEVER been passed by a Volt.

They are just like any other car, good engine, gets good gas mileage. I test drove several, they can all go over 90, they can call move off a dime quickly. It seems you have no experience and biased against them because one Volt driver didn't drive the speed limit.

Hummer drivers have to been known to wash Chevy Volts out of their grills like bug splatter!

LOL!!!! The Volt is a bigger car than the Sprint, the Geo, the mini coopers.

I'll take my not having to get out and fill my car at a gas station in the middle of a snowstorm than my Suburban that needs filled every week.

If you lived where there aren't snowstorms, you wouldn't need a Volt anyway! If it works for you great! Just don't tell everyone else how great they are (which they are not) and that everyone should drive one!

Look, I never said anyone else should drive one! I like my car, it works for me. I don't really care what you drive, but quit lying about cars and technology you know nothing about. And I'd drive my car anywhere I live snow or no snow, and if it pisses off an arrogant jerk such as yourself that I own one, all the better that I own one. Now, go force your own opinions on someone else.

And since you have never driven the care , you know nothing about it, whether it is good or bad, you are just spewing your closed minded bigoted BS.

 

[Papageorgio]

Porsche Mission all Electric

Looks nice however, I am not willing to trust an all electric car just yet.

 

[AntonToo]

Model Y, Model X? Model 3? Model S?

Lol! Some great marketing ideas from Tesla. They must use the same marketing firm as McDonald's used for the Bacon, Egg and Cheese Biscuit. Another really great name.

There is a method to it.

 

[AntonToo]

Yup, buy an electric car to save the planet and save on fossil fuel. Oh wait, it may cost you a few extra bucks to buy the vehicle, and a few more bucks to support the State.

Illinois might start charging $1,000 per year to own an electric vehicle: 'It's outrageous'

Sounds more like a tax on the rich. The problem is, middle class should be driving these. And putting a huge increase like that defeats the purpose. How about raising the cost to operate a gas guzzler instead. Or tax more on those things that pollute the air and water.

The Electric car is the future but not if only the rich can afford them.

You ought to buy up the used Chevy Volts before they are crushed.
Or doesn't your home insurance cover any vehicles they suddenly catch fire in your garage?
"Hi honey. I'm at the supermarket. I'll be home in about two days. The fucking Volt ran out of battery again for some reason so I have to plug it in. Is your sister's Wrangler still for sale?".
Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off the assembly line

Volt can't compete with Model 3.

I own a Volt, would never buy a Tesla, a hybrid is fine, all electric makes the Tesla unreliable.

What makes you say that? Some sort of statistics you can share?

There are over half a million Teslas on the road. How much more proof of concept do you need?

 

[Dick Foster]

Yup, buy an electric car to save the planet and save on fossil fuel. Oh wait, it may cost you a few extra bucks to buy the vehicle, and a few more bucks to support the State.

Illinois might start charging $1,000 per year to own an electric vehicle: 'It's outrageous'

Being the environmental disasters they really are, maybe they should state taxing electric cars more rather than subsidizing them. As it is, electric cars are just another fraud perpetrated against the slower minds in our population.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yup, buy an electric car to save the planet and save on fossil fuel. Oh wait, it may cost you a few extra bucks to buy the vehicle, and a few more bucks to support the State.

Illinois might start charging $1,000 per year to own an electric vehicle: 'It's outrageous'

Sounds more like a tax on the rich. The problem is, middle class should be driving these. And putting a huge increase like that defeats the purpose. How about raising the cost to operate a gas guzzler instead. Or tax more on those things that pollute the air and water.

The Electric car is the future but not if only the rich can afford them.

You ought to buy up the used Chevy Volts before they are crushed.
Or doesn't your home insurance cover any vehicles they suddenly catch fire in your garage?
"Hi honey. I'm at the supermarket. I'll be home in about two days. The fucking Volt ran out of battery again for some reason so I have to plug it in. Is your sister's Wrangler still for sale?".
Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off the assembly line

Volt can't compete with Model 3.

I own a Volt, would never buy a Tesla, a hybrid is fine, all electric makes the Tesla unreliable.

What makes you say that? Some sort of statistics you can share?

There are over half a million Teslas on the road. How much more proof of concept do you need?

When I drive I travel 600-700 miles in a day. I usually will stop once to refuel, pee, grab food and then back on the road. I am not waiting for a car to charge, nor do I want to look for a charging station in the middle of nowhere Tesla doesn’t fit my style, for around the town, my Volt works great for long distance driving my Volt works great. I don’t want to go entirely electric.

 

[Desperado]

Porsche Mission all Electric

Looks nice however, I am not willing to trust an all electric car just yet.

Agree, All electric cars are still not ready for prime time.
Maybe great for city use but not if you drive your car any distance,

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Porsche Mission all Electric

Looks nice however, I am not willing to trust an all electric car just yet.

Agree, All electric cars are still not ready for prime time.
Maybe great for city use but not if you drive your car any distance,

The same can be said for almost any subcompact no matter what it uses for power. If you want a car that you are going to spend 400 miles a day in 300 days a year, you buy the tool for the job.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Illinois might start charging $1,000 per year to own an electric vehicle: 'It's outrageous'

It figures it'd be something like that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have yet to see one able to maintain 55 mph. Maybe you are just lucky to have a decent model. Everyone who rides with me says I drive like a "grandpa" which I proudly am. The only time I ever see a Volt is in the right lane of an Interstate with everyone trying to safely pass them. I have NEVER been passed by a Volt.

They are just like any other car, good engine, gets good gas mileage. I test drove several, they can all go over 90, they can call move off a dime quickly. It seems you have no experience and biased against them because one Volt driver didn't drive the speed limit.

Hummer drivers have to been known to wash Chevy Volts out of their grills like bug splatter!

LOL!!!! The Volt is a bigger car than the Sprint, the Geo, the mini coopers.

I'll take my not having to get out and fill my car at a gas station in the middle of a snowstorm than my Suburban that needs filled every week.

If you lived where there aren't snowstorms, you wouldn't need a Volt anyway! If it works for you great! Just don't tell everyone else how great they are (which they are not) and that everyone should drive one!

Look, I never said anyone else should drive one! I like my car, it works for me. I don't really care what you drive, but quit lying about cars and technology you know nothing about. And I'd drive my car anywhere I live snow or no snow, and if it pisses off an arrogant jerk such as yourself that I own one, all the better that I own one. Now, go force your own opinions on someone else.

And since you have never driven the care , you know nothing about it, whether it is good or bad, you are just spewing your closed minded bigoted BS.

Perhaps you should review your posts with an eye to the "holier-than-thou" attitude you have been spouting! Calling me arrogant is the ultimate in hypocrisy for you!

 

[Papageorgio]

They are just like any other car, good engine, gets good gas mileage. I test drove several, they can all go over 90, they can call move off a dime quickly. It seems you have no experience and biased against them because one Volt driver didn't drive the speed limit.

Hummer drivers have to been known to wash Chevy Volts out of their grills like bug splatter!

LOL!!!! The Volt is a bigger car than the Sprint, the Geo, the mini coopers.

I'll take my not having to get out and fill my car at a gas station in the middle of a snowstorm than my Suburban that needs filled every week.

If you lived where there aren't snowstorms, you wouldn't need a Volt anyway! If it works for you great! Just don't tell everyone else how great they are (which they are not) and that everyone should drive one!

Look, I never said anyone else should drive one! I like my car, it works for me. I don't really care what you drive, but quit lying about cars and technology you know nothing about. And I'd drive my car anywhere I live snow or no snow, and if it pisses off an arrogant jerk such as yourself that I own one, all the better that I own one. Now, go force your own opinions on someone else.

And since you have never driven the care , you know nothing about it, whether it is good or bad, you are just spewing your closed minded bigoted BS.

Perhaps you should review your posts with an eye to the "holier-than-thou" attitude you have been spouting! Calling me arrogant is the ultimate in hypocrisy for you!

Bullshit! I never said or thought or implied I am better, it’s a damn car! You are the stupid one claiming Volts don’t have any power, that they don’t go over 45 or 55 mph. You know not one damn thing about the car. It is a good car, doesn’t give me issues, can run at 90 mph if you want, without loss of power. A car doesn’t make anyone a better person, I was countering your ignorance with facts. Maybe you should at least test the damn thing before you spout nonsense. I bought it used to save me money. It did just that. I’d never buy a fully electric car as that to me makes them unreliable. Maybe you should learn to read. Maybe you should have facts before you spout your uneducated, biased opinion.

 

[Desperado]

Porsche Mission all Electric

Looks nice however, I am not willing to trust an all electric car just yet.

Agree, All electric cars are still not ready for prime time.
Maybe great for city use but not if you drive your car any distance,

The same can be said for almost any subcompact no matter what it uses for power. If you want a car that you are going to spend 400 miles a day in 300 days a year, you buy the tool for the job.

Apples and Oranges, If you go on a 600 Mile trip in a gas powered car it will not take you 2 days. If you are in electric car after 400 miles you have to stop and recharge your batteries for 8 hours to get a full charge before you can continue your trip.