Seattle Democrats Cancel Columbus Day. Replace It With "indigenous People's Day"

[Unkotare]

After 20 years of European occupation, several wars and deliberate hunting and destruction of most of the buffalo herds (the Indian's primary food supply)... ....

"20 years"? You are way, way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off.

 

[Picaro]

The traditional native way of 'hunting buffalo' on the great plains was to stampede entire herds off of cliffs and bluffs, crippling and killing far more than they could butcher and eat, leaving the bulk of them to suffer and rot. They only reason they didn't kill off most of them was only due to their small numbers and the great numbers of buffalo. They also had no problem hunting out most of the fur bearing animals as far west as the Rockies to trade with whites for booze and cloth and the like. Native Americans weren't the 'environmentalists' the hippie fantasies of the 1960's made them out to be.

As slave owners they weren't anything to brag about either.

 

[Unkotare]

Are you white ?

1/2 irish 1/2 cheatwood cherokee....so I have a lot to complain about .[/QUOTE]


Is your screen name supposed to be ironic?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Here it is folks, the utter definition of the cliche liberal thing to say.
This is why I have always said liberals simply do not love their country.

Here it is, folks, a far right quarreling when he knows he is wrong anyway.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Celebrate the contributions of indians?? HAHAHA. Before the white man came, no indian tribe even had a written language. They were stone age people and they still would be except the white man takes care of them.

Your racist dumbassary is only eclipsed by your embarrassingly laughable fondness for the taste of your own foot in your mouth.



It's not about the contributions of the swell inventions that we have all come to know and love; like Fallout 3 or the 8 track tape player.

It's about the fact that this was their land and now it's ours.

Why do you prefer Spaniards over Mongolian explorers who crossed the barring straight ... without the help of the deep pockets of king Ferdinand?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Blah blah blah idiot. That was the 15th Century idiot. Everyone was a mass murderer in those days.

It's Columbus Day moron, left wing nut cities like Seattle are just putting up a temporary show that won't catch on anywhere but other left wing loony bins.

Get a clue.

I profoundly disagree. Columbus day should be a bit more inclusive. Most people believe that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PredFan is wrong, period.

 

[PredFan]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Blah blah blah idiot. That was the 15th Century idiot. Everyone was a mass murderer in those days.

It's Columbus Day moron, left wing nut cities like Seattle are just putting up a temporary show that won't catch on anywhere but other left wing loony bins.

Get a clue.

I profoundly disagree. Columbus day should be a bit more inclusive. Most people believe that.

You can't look at those times through the prism of the 21st Century. Those were brutal times. Even the indigenous people of the Americas were brutal to each other. Employ some perspective.

 

[PredFan]

PredFan is wrong, period.

Not in the least, actually.

 

[Asclepias]

Columbus feeding his dogs....Native Americans.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Columbus feeding his dogs....Native Americans.

Hey einstein. That's not a photograph. Photography didn't exist 500 years ago, you ignoramus. It's just a propaganda painting. THINK

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Celebrate the contributions of indians?? HAHAHA. Before the white man came, no indian tribe even had a written language. They were stone age people and they still would be except the white man takes care of them.

It's not about the contributions of the swell inventions that we have all come to know and love; like Fallout 3 or the 8 track tape player.

It's about the fact that this was their land and now it's ours.

Injuns were constantly waging wars and stealing land from other injuns. THINK

 

[Picaro]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Blah blah blah idiot. That was the 15th Century idiot. Everyone was a mass murderer in those days.

It's Columbus Day moron, left wing nut cities like Seattle are just putting up a temporary show that won't catch on anywhere but other left wing loony bins.

Get a clue.

I profoundly disagree. Columbus day should be a bit more inclusive. Most people believe that.

You can't look at those times through the prism of the 21st Century. Those were brutal times. Even the indigenous people of the Americas were brutal to each other. Employ some perspective.

Europeans were far less savage than natives, and certainly far less savage than Africans, Asians, Arabs, Indians, etc. Europeans kept records, unlike the rest, so dishonest morons can pretend 'everybody else' in the history of man were just a collection of pot smoking hobbits, and Whitey came along and screwed it all up or something, using an argument from silence as 'proof'.

 

[Asclepias]

 

[JakeStarkey]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Blah blah blah idiot. That was the 15th Century idiot. Everyone was a mass murderer in those days.

It's Columbus Day moron, left wing nut cities like Seattle are just putting up a temporary show that won't catch on anywhere but other left wing loony bins.

Get a clue.

I profoundly disagree. Columbus day should be a bit more inclusive. Most people believe that.

You can't look at those times through the prism of the 21st Century. Those were brutal times. Even the indigenous people of the Americas were brutal to each other. Employ some perspective.

Present-ism never precludes moral judgment.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Blah blah blah idiot. That was the 15th Century idiot. Everyone was a mass murderer in those days.

It's Columbus Day moron, left wing nut cities like Seattle are just putting up a temporary show that won't catch on anywhere but other left wing loony bins.

Get a clue.

I profoundly disagree. Columbus day should be a bit more inclusive. Most people believe that.

You can't look at those times through the prism of the 21st Century. Those were brutal times. Even the indigenous people of the Americas were brutal to each other. Employ some perspective.

Europeans were far less savage than natives, and certainly far less savage than Africans, Asians, Arabs, Indians, etc. Europeans kept records, unlike the rest, so dishonest morons can pretend 'everybody else' in the history of man were just a collection of pot smoking hobbits, and Whitey came along and screwed it all up or something, using an argument from silence as 'proof'.

Yup, far less violent. Stupid ass. They burned apprentices for murdering their masters in the middle 1600s in England, they burned slaves plotting insurrection in New York colony.

Whitey and Reddie and Blackie were all violent. But a people who claim to worship the Christ committed God-awful acts of violence in the New World against the indigenous peoples, and no amount of far right politically correct nattering will change that.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Injuns were constantly waging wars and stealing land from other injuns. THINK

You mean like the rest of the world?

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Hey einstein. That's not a photograph. Photography didn't exist 500 years ago, you ignoramus. It's just a propaganda painting. THINK.

Christopher Columbus' reputation has not survived the scrutiny of history, and today we know that he was no more the discoverer of America than Pocahontas was the discoverer of Great Britain. Native Americans had built great civilizations with many millions of people long before Columbus wandered lost into the Caribbean.

Columbus' voyage has even less meaning for North Americans than for South Americans because Columbus never set foot on our continent, nor did he open it to European trade. Scandinavian Vikings already had settlements here in the eleventh century, and British fisherman probably fished the shores of Canada for decades before Columbus. The first European explorer to thoroughly document his visit to North America was the Italian explorer Giovanni Caboto, who sailed for England's King Henry VII and became known by his anglicized name, John Cabot. Caboto arrived in 1497 and claimed North America for the English sovereign while Columbus was still searching for India in the Caribbean. After three voyages to America and more than a decade of study, Columbus still believed that Cuba was a part of Asia, South America was only an island, and the coast of Central America was near the Ganges River.

Unable to celebrate Columbus' exploration as a great discovery, some apologists now want to commemorate it as a great "cultural encounter." Under this interpretation, Columbus becomes a sensitive genius thinking beyond his time in the passionate pursuit of knowledge and understanding. The historical record refutes this, too.

Contrary to popular legend, Columbus did not prove that the world was round; educated people had known that for centuries. The Egyptian-Greek scientist Erastosthenes, working for Alexandria and Aswan, already had measured the circumference and diameter of the world in the third century B.C. Arab scientists had developed a whole discipline of geography and measurement, and in the tenth century A.D., Al Maqdisi described the earth with 360 degrees of longitude and 180 degrees of latitude. The Monastery of St. Catherine in the Sinai still has an icon -- painted 500 years before Columbus -- which shows Jesus ruling over a spherical earth. Nevertheless, Americans have embroidered many such legends around Columbus, and he has become part of a secular mythology for schoolchildren. Autumn would hardly be complete in U.S. elementary schools without construction-paper replicas of the three ships that Columbus sailed to America, or without drawings of Queen Isabella pawning her jewels to finance Columbus' trip.

This myth of the pawned jewels obscures the true and more sinister story of how Columbus financed his trip. The Spanish monarch invested in his excursion, but only on the condition that Columbus would repay this investment with profit by bringing back gold, spices, and other tribute from Asia. This pressing need to repay his debt underlies the frantic tone of Columbus' diaries as he raced from one Caribbean island to the next, stealing anything of value.

After he failed to contact the emperor of China, the traders of India, or the merchants of Japan, Columbus decided to pay for his voyage in the one important commodity he had found in ample supply -- human lives. He seized 1,200 Taino Indians from the island of Hispaniola, crammed as many onto his ships as would fit, and sent them to Spain, where they were paraded naked through the streets of Seville and sold as slaves in 1495. Columbus tore children from their parents, husbands from wives. On board Columbus' slave ships, hundreds died; the sailors tossed the Indian bodies into the Atlantic.

Because Columbus captured more Indian slaves than he could transport to Spain in his small ships, he put them to work in mines and plantations which he, his family, and followers created throughout the Caribbean. His marauding band hunted Indians for sport and profit -- beating, raping, torturing, killing, and then using the Indian bodies as food for their hunting dogs. Within four years of Columbus' arrival on Hispaniola, his men had killed or exported one-third of the original Indian population of 300,000...

Examining the Reputation of Christopher Columbus

 

[PredFan]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Blah blah blah idiot. That was the 15th Century idiot. Everyone was a mass murderer in those days.

It's Columbus Day moron, left wing nut cities like Seattle are just putting up a temporary show that won't catch on anywhere but other left wing loony bins.

Get a clue.

I profoundly disagree. Columbus day should be a bit more inclusive. Most people believe that.

You can't look at those times through the prism of the 21st Century. Those were brutal times. Even the indigenous people of the Americas were brutal to each other. Employ some perspective.

Present-ism never precludes moral judgment.

Even if I believed that nonsense, you are VERY selective in your moral judgement.

 

[PredFan]

Columbus was a mass murderer, folks.

The native peoples have every right for their holiday, and if Seattle wants to give them Columbus Day, no one of any intelligence really cares.

Oh, another thing. Every day is White History day.

Grow up.

Blah blah blah idiot. That was the 15th Century idiot. Everyone was a mass murderer in those days.

It's Columbus Day moron, left wing nut cities like Seattle are just putting up a temporary show that won't catch on anywhere but other left wing loony bins.

Get a clue.

I profoundly disagree. Columbus day should be a bit more inclusive. Most people believe that.

You can't look at those times through the prism of the 21st Century. Those were brutal times. Even the indigenous people of the Americas were brutal to each other. Employ some perspective.

Europeans were far less savage than natives, and certainly far less savage than Africans, Asians, Arabs, Indians, etc. Europeans kept records, unlike the rest, so dishonest morons can pretend 'everybody else' in the history of man were just a collection of pot smoking hobbits, and Whitey came along and screwed it all up or something, using an argument from silence as 'proof'.

Yup, far less violent. Stupid ass. They burned apprentices for murdering their masters in the middle 1600s in England, they burned slaves plotting insurrection in New York colony.

Whitey and Reddie and Blackie were all violent. But a people who claim to worship the Christ committed God-awful acts of violence in the New World against the indigenous peoples, and no amount of far right politically correct nattering will change that.

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz..... Did you even read the post nit wit?