Senators Graham & Ted Cruz Announce Legislation Allowing Victims Of Violence To Sue Sanctuary Cities

[HappyJoy]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Actually they are.

Neat, what laws?

 

[Thinker101]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Say what!!! Are you delusional or just fricken stupid?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Schumer & Merkely have a counter bill to end family separation & improve living conditions for illegals

they're criminals not guest

Exactly.

Why the FUCK are we trying to IMPROVE living conditions for illegals?

We should be deteriorating living conditions and making their lives hell.

They should be hiding and running scared.

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[HappyJoy]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Say what!!! Are you delusional or just fricken stupid?

I'm not delusional or stupid enough to believe this legislation will go anywhere, I guess you should answer your own question.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Actually they are.

Neat, what laws?

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

 

[HappyJoy]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Actually they are.

Neat, what laws?

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

And?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Schumer & Merkely have a counter bill to end family separation & improve living conditions for illegals

they're criminals not guest

Exactly.

Why the FUCK are we trying to IMPROVE living conditions for illegals?

We should be deteriorating living conditions and making their lives hell.

They should be hiding and running scared.

.

I agree

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Actually they are.

Neat, what laws?

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

And?

You asked what law was being violated
Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

And Corey Booker violated this part
Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.

 

[HappyJoy]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Actually they are.

Neat, what laws?

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

And?

You asked what law was being violated
Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

And Corey Booker violated this part
Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.

Where is the states responsibility? They are not required to chase down those who are here illegally, that's the feds job.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Actually they are.

Neat, what laws?

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

And?

You asked what law was being violated
Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

And Corey Booker violated this part
Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.

Where is the states responsibility? They are not required to chase down those who are here illegally, that's the feds job.

Again read the law you might finally comprehend why you're ignorant for saying " 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws."

 

[HappyJoy]

Neat, what laws?

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

And?

You asked what law was being violated
Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

And Corey Booker violated this part
Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.

Where is the states responsibility? They are not required to chase down those who are here illegally, that's the feds job.

Again read the law you might finally comprehend why you're ignorant for saying " 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws."

I'm asking you, where are states and cities required to enforce federal immigration laws? They aren't even required to attain their immigration status.

Here is a good read:
It's not local law enforcement’s responsibility to do ICE's job

 

[bigrebnc1775]

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

And?

You asked what law was being violated
Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

And Corey Booker violated this part
Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.

Where is the states responsibility? They are not required to chase down those who are here illegally, that's the feds job.

Again read the law you might finally comprehend why you're ignorant for saying " 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws."

I'm asking you, where are states and cities required to enforce federal immigration laws? They aren't even required to attain their immigration status.

All you have to do is read what I posted
They can't harbor illegals nor can they encourage or induce them to enter the country by telling them they'll protect them
telling illegals of ICE raids Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting

 

[The Republicans]

People should have a right to sue because they are citizens and the non citizens isn’t unless they get citizenship! If people can’t understand that then I’m sorry but you don’t have any racial sense besides the liberal community college logic


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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The courts, mainly. How do you prove that the violence still wouldn't have happened even if the city didn't have sanctuary status?

No proximate cause. This legislation would give cities a legal duty to remove illegals, but the plaintiffs must prove that "but for the failure of the city to ______ (whatever legal duty they have), the tort (or crime) would not have occurred." There is a whole host of subsequent or more proximate "but fors" that will likely remove any liability.

This is also somewhat akin to trying to make gun manufacturers liable for gun crimes.

We would need to radically alter tort law to remove any subsequent intervening causes, like any other agency or entity's failure to act prior to the illegal alien becoming part of the sanctuary city.

And, we're not even getting into Sovereign Immunity of Cities/States. This would usurp a shit ton of State power.

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[The Republicans]

Can't see this going far, so called 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws.

Actually they are.

Neat, what laws?

violating immigration laws.
1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A)

You can throw United States Codes all day long but, where does it come to Reality? A perfect example of this is Stanley case in San Francisco the guy who shot the firearm after he supposedly found it. Which is a lie. She is dead he is the shooter but yet he is a immigrant so not guilty


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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

And?

You asked what law was being violated
Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

And Corey Booker violated this part
Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.

Where is the states responsibility? They are not required to chase down those who are here illegally, that's the feds job.

Again read the law you might finally comprehend why you're ignorant for saying " 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws."

I'm asking you, where are states and cities required to enforce federal immigration laws? They aren't even required to attain their immigration status.

All you have to do is read what I posted
They can't harbor illegals nor can they encourage or induce them to enter the country by telling them they'll protect them
telling illegals of ICE raids Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting

But, they are not required to enforce federal law.

It's a double-edged sword.

States are also not required to enforce federal gun laws.


In "2nd Amendment Sanctuaries," officials refuse to enforce new gun laws

 

[theHawk]

we should have voted for Lyin Ted instead of Trump! Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz Announce New Legislation Allowing Victims of Violence to Sue Sanctuary Cities

The only reason Ted Cruz’s balls dropped was because of President Trump.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You asked what law was being violated
Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

And Corey Booker violated this part
Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has not received prior authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.

Where is the states responsibility? They are not required to chase down those who are here illegally, that's the feds job.

Again read the law you might finally comprehend why you're ignorant for saying " 'sanctuary' cities/states aren't breaking any laws."

I'm asking you, where are states and cities required to enforce federal immigration laws? They aren't even required to attain their immigration status.

All you have to do is read what I posted
They can't harbor illegals nor can they encourage or induce them to enter the country by telling them they'll protect them
telling illegals of ICE raids Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting

But, they are not required to enforce federal law.

It's a double-edged sword.

States are also not required to enforce federal gun laws.


In "2nd Amendment Sanctuaries," officials refuse to enforce new gun laws

You can't knowingly harbor them if they aren't illegal they wouldn't need sanctuary
You can't warn them about ICE RAIDS

 

[Cecilie1200]

we should have voted for Lyin Ted instead of Trump! Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz Announce New Legislation Allowing Victims of Violence to Sue Sanctuary Cities

Personally, I did . . . and I never bought into any of those puerile nicknames Trump throws around like a 3rd grader on a playground.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Gosh, Ted sponsored a bill about America, not Israel.

Must be the FIRST TIME EVER....

Look, an inaccurate and lame personal attack. This must be the first time ever you've tried to discuss grown-up topics.

Keep trying.