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Terrorism is a tactic. You can't have a war nor can you end a tactic.
Nobody ever claims they are going to "end robbery". "Ending terrorism" is just as illogical.
Oh yes you can. The softer hearts don't like to hear that, but yes it is entirely possible.
How?
How would you have ended terrorist attacks like these:
DC Sniper Allen Muhammad
Richard Poplawski - who went on a rampage and shot 3 Pittsburgh police in 2009
Wade Michael Page - who attacked a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin in 2012.
Aaron Alexis - killed 12 people when he opened fire on the Washington Navy Yard in DC in 2013
Glenn Miller, Jr. - attacked a Jewish community center and retirement community in 2014
Jarad and Amanda Miller - went on a shooting rampage, killed two Las Vegas police officers, said to have held extreme anti-government views, 2014
Chris Harper-Mercer - went on a shooting spree at his college killing 10 people, had anti-religious and white supremacist views, 2014
Dylann Roof - went into a church and shot 9 people, wanting to start a race war, 2015
And that is just a handful of the terrorist attacks we've had in the last decade.
Much better.
especially since you have already admitted 911 was a fraud and that Israel was behind hit.
The problem is that you think Israel was "divinely justified" in doing it, and you would cheer if Israel murdered Americans again.
I could, but that would be dumb. I could also say all Muslims were evil, but that also would be dumb.Take your seat belts off, turn off your airbags!The new normal is the old normal - life is risky, deal with it.Terrorism is a tactic. You can't have a war nor can you end a tactic.
Nobody ever claims they are going to "end robbery". "Ending terrorism" is just as illogical.
So we just accept it as the "new normal". I think not.
Not a lot of time for a detailed response right now but I think the following; forget about stopping it totally. Be it Radical Islam or Radical Christianity…there will be people who hate.
comparing "radical Islam" to "radical Christianity" is fallacious
seriously - Christians are not chopping off heads or perpetuating suicide attacks with mass support from an organized group
does not happen
If I believe that homosexual activity is a sin & express that view, or vote for people that would make it illegal =/= Islamic jihad
it's not in the same universe; yet, many on the left seek to draw moral equivalency - makes you look foolish and it makes it hard to take you seriously
I made an effort to answer OP without being argumentative; however, there IS one more thing.
We need to find a way to come together & agree on a solution.
Rhetoric like you are spewing hin this quoted post serves to make that more difficult
we need to identify the actual problem & unite in an effort to slow it down & make it more difficult
talking about the Crusades or Timothy McVeigh or the Westboro Baptist Church (which is a hateful group, but still nowhere NEAR as bad as Jihadists) is counterproductive
It's fucking amazing that you did not include 9-11.Terrorism is a tactic. You can't have a war nor can you end a tactic.
Nobody ever claims they are going to "end robbery". "Ending terrorism" is just as illogical.
Oh yes you can. The softer hearts don't like to hear that, but yes it is entirely possible.
How?
How would you have ended terrorist attacks like these:
DC Sniper Allen Muhammad
Richard Poplawski - who went on a rampage and shot 3 Pittsburgh police in 2009
Wade Michael Page - who attacked a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin in 2012.
Aaron Alexis - killed 12 people when he opened fire on the Washington Navy Yard in DC in 2013
Glenn Miller, Jr. - attacked a Jewish community center and retirement community in 2014
Jarad and Amanda Miller - went on a shooting rampage, killed two Las Vegas police officers, said to have held extreme anti-government views, 2014
Chris Harper-Mercer - went on a shooting spree at his college killing 10 people, had anti-religious and white supremacist views, 2014
Dylann Roof - went into a church and shot 9 people, wanting to start a race war, 2015
And that is just a handful of the terrorist attacks we've had in the last decade.got ole Dylan Roof in there though.
there were a lot of...shall we say participants in 9-11. If you think it was only the Mossad you reveal that you know nothing at all. It's VERY deep rabbit hole with many players involved.
Terrorism is a tactic. You can't have a war nor can you end a tactic.
Nobody ever claims they are going to "end robbery". "Ending terrorism" is just as illogical.
Oh yes you can. The softer hearts don't like to hear that, but yes it is entirely possible.
How?
How would you have ended terrorist attacks like these:
DC Sniper Allen Muhammad
Richard Poplawski - who went on a rampage and shot 3 Pittsburgh police in 2009
Wade Michael Page - who attacked a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin in 2012.
Aaron Alexis - killed 12 people when he opened fire on the Washington Navy Yard in DC in 2013
Glenn Miller, Jr. - attacked a Jewish community center and retirement community in 2014
Jarad and Amanda Miller - went on a shooting rampage, killed two Las Vegas police officers, said to have held extreme anti-government views, 2014
Chris Harper-Mercer - went on a shooting spree at his college killing 10 people, had anti-religious and white supremacist views, 2014
Dylann Roof - went into a church and shot 9 people, wanting to start a race war, 2015
And that is just a handful of the terrorist attacks we've had in the last decade.
Actually these are Not terrorisim, They are singular acts of deranged individuals. Try again and find an ORGANIZED Group. Like say the old version of the Night Riders or KKK, or some other organized group. Then tell us about Terrorist activity.
My personal thoughts is that it's complicated. I'm Belgian. Here most people who commit acts of terrorism are homegrown. They usually are young people of North African descendancy who although they were born here feel the society doesn't accept them. They have a harder time than other people to get a job, the are generally poorer, less educated. They are teenagers who get swayed by someone who not only gives them a sense of identity and financial security but also the chance to become a hero. In their own small niche of the world. It's more an economical and racism problem than a religious one in my view. The only solution I can see is " stop reporting it.". Take away the audience. This would damage the recruiting of people willing to commit these crimes and make people less afraid. The fear terrorism causes is what makes terrorism a good way to wage war to begin with. It might not eradicate it, but it would make it less effective.I'd like to get some thoughts from the liberals on this, because as a liberal, I really don't hear a whole lot of solutions to stopping terrorism. Probably because it can't be stopped. But I'd still like to hear if there have been any solutions proposed by the left.
Also would like to hear thoughts from the right about a real solution. Do you guys really think that bombing people into oblivion is going to end terrorism? We're talking about religious extremism here -- violence against them only adds fuel to the fire. Does the right actually have a real, actionable solution to ending terrorism?
My personal point of view is that you can't really stop it. I don't see how it's possible as long as people still cling to these poisonous ME religions. The only real way we'd ever end global terrorism is through a sort of collective spiritual and psychological evolution to the next level, where as a society we've moved past the violent idiocy of archaic organized religion. The change must come from within. But that just isn't in the cards for the foreseeable future. In other words, we're screwed and terrorism will become more and more of a "normal" part of life.
Discuss...
there were a lot of...shall we say participants in 9-11. If you think it was only the Mossad you reveal that you know nothing at all. It's VERY deep rabbit hole with many players involved.
The Mossad was the principle player. The Saudis lied about the kids, who were apparently dead soccer players who died in a bus crash several years before 911. The W Administration was 100% behind it, especially Tenet, Cheney, and Rumsfeld (no mention of the DEMOGRAPHIC of those three).
Sorry, I am fluent in the 911 treason.
Funny, why don't you want those behind 911 punished?
It is because YOU WERE ONE OF THEM???
I think it willThe travel ban is not going to make you safer.And the left cheers because Trump's travel ban has been thwarted again! My gawd!
My personal thoughts is that it's complicated. I'm Belgian. Here most people who commit acts of terrorism are homegrown. They usually are young people of North African descendancy who although they were born here feel the society doesn't accept them. They have a harder time than other people to get a job, the are generally poorer, less educated. They are teenagers who get swayed by someone who not only gives them a sense of identity and financial security but also the chance to become a hero. In their own small niche of the world. It's more an economical and racism problem than a religious one in my view. The only solution I can see is " stop reporting it.". Take away the audience. This would damage the recruiting of people willing to commit these crimes and make people less afraid. The fear terrorism causes is what makes terrorism a good way to wage war to begin with. It might not eradicate it, but it would make it less effective.I'd like to get some thoughts from the liberals on this, because as a liberal, I really don't hear a whole lot of solutions to stopping terrorism. Probably because it can't be stopped. But I'd still like to hear if there have been any solutions proposed by the left.
Also would like to hear thoughts from the right about a real solution. Do you guys really think that bombing people into oblivion is going to end terrorism? We're talking about religious extremism here -- violence against them only adds fuel to the fire. Does the right actually have a real, actionable solution to ending terrorism?
My personal point of view is that you can't really stop it. I don't see how it's possible as long as people still cling to these poisonous ME religions. The only real way we'd ever end global terrorism is through a sort of collective spiritual and psychological evolution to the next level, where as a society we've moved past the violent idiocy of archaic organized religion. The change must come from within. But that just isn't in the cards for the foreseeable future. In other words, we're screwed and terrorism will become more and more of a "normal" part of life.
Discuss...
I'd like to get some thoughts from the liberals on this, because as a liberal, I really don't hear a whole lot of solutions to stopping terrorism. Probably because it can't be stopped. But I'd still like to hear if there have been any solutions proposed by the left.
Also would like to hear thoughts from the right about a real solution. Do you guys really think that bombing people into oblivion is going to end terrorism? We're talking about religious extremism here -- violence against them only adds fuel to the fire. Does the right actually have a real, actionable solution to ending terrorism?
My personal point of view is that you can't really stop it. I don't see how it's possible as long as people still cling to these poisonous ME religions. The only real way we'd ever end global terrorism is through a sort of collective spiritual and psychological evolution to the next level, where as a society we've moved past the violent idiocy of archaic organized religion. The change must come from within. But that just isn't in the cards for the foreseeable future. In other words, we're screwed and terrorism will become more and more of a "normal" part of life.
Discuss...
Let's stick to the topic please.
Okay, how? Faith? Duct tape? PB&J?It's impossible to stop all terrorist attacks..but that doesn't mean we can't significantly prevent more from happening.
No reason if the intent were security that he couldn't have immediately started looking into it and pushing for answers within the magic time frame. Because that HASN'T happened proves to me that it was not the intent.We are never gonna know are we? Thanks to ass tardy liberals.He's already had more than the time allotted in the ban. I'm not hearing any improved methods. Why not? This wasn't done to improve vetting. It was a pacifier to make people feel safer. We won't be.The travel ban is not going to make you safer.And the left cheers because Trump's travel ban has been thwarted again! My gawd!
The ban is just temporary until better vetting methods are implimented.
When the Constitution was ratified almost no one had rights. The Bill of Rights was ratified two and half years later.It's worthless POS ban. It's also unconstitutional.And the left cheers because Trump's travel ban has been thwarted again! My gawd!
Wrong as usual,, The Pres has both the CONSTITUTIONAL, and statutory authority to ban any group or all groups of people he deems dangerous from entering this country. You liberals are way out in LEFT field with the shit you claim to be part of the constitution, including rights for non US citizens. When the constitution was written even some of the citizens of this country did not have all of the Constitutional rights, like voting for one, Yet you would extend them to non citizens. Proves as always you have no idea how history was written and what it actually proves. About the way mankind has changed, and what works and what does not. Most of all you have no idea what history would completely disprove about most all of your pet fantasies and ideas
Terrorisim can be stopped, by REAL EDUCATION, and stopping the PC ignorance of socialist ants. The idea that any person owes another person anything because of his being is ludicrous.
And terrorism is a tactic. We've used it many times. Tactics cannot be stopped.
Voting, BTW, not in the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights.
Let's stick to the topic please.
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU STOP TERROR IF YOU CANNOT ID THE TERRORISTS CORRECTLY???
there were a lot of...shall we say participants in 9-11. If you think it was only the Mossad you reveal that you know nothing at all. It's VERY deep rabbit hole with many players involved.
The Mossad was the principle player. The Saudis lied about the kids, who were apparently dead soccer players who died in a bus crash several years before 911. The W Administration was 100% behind it, especially Tenet, Cheney, and Rumsfeld (no mention of the DEMOGRAPHIC of those three).
Sorry, I am fluent in the 911 treason.
Funny, why don't you want those behind 911 punished?
It is because YOU WERE ONE OF THEM???
Let's stick to the topic please.
