Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[Where_r_my_Keys]

And when the people voted into law interracial marriage bans, ...

Huh... But that was based upon the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States... Have ya read it?

There's nothing in it which requires that laws which sustain reality, aren't enforceable, because a tiny, but mouthy minority claim a reality of their own... .

The 14th amendment does not require that the US Government suspend reality to accommodate, thus promote a deviant species of reasoning, OKA: A MENTAL DISORDER!

 

[Skylar]

And when the people voted into law interracial marriage bans, ...

Huh... But that was based upon the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States... Have ya read it?

As are virtually all of the rulings that overturned state gay marriage bans. And the basis of the legal challenge to the gay marriage bans in the 6th circuit court district that the USSC is hearing in a few weeks.

See how that works?

There's nothing in it which requires that laws which sustain reality, aren't enforceable, because a tiny, but mouthy minority claim a reality of their own... .

The 14th amendment requires that US citizens be treated equally under State law. Virtually every federal court to hear cases on gay marriage bans has overturned them on that basis.

With the USSC preserving every single lower court ruling that overturned gay marriage bans. Without exceptoin. The only case they took up and put themselves in a position to overturn was the lone ruling that affirming gay marriage bans.

June is when they rule on the issue. And even Scalia has concluded that the overturning of state gay marriage bans is 'inevitable'.

Get used to the idea.

 

[Skylar]

Those polls do not represent the true pulse of the American people.

Huh... Ya know what? I agree... Polls never represent a true pulse.

But ya know what DOES represent a true pulse?

Someone once had this idea... wherein groups of people would gather in distinct geographic areas, wherein these respective collectives had different views of everyday things and as a result had different ideas of how to govern, but for the most part, they agreed on the larger issues and were readily able to live along side one another, with few major challenges, but possessing the means to reason objectively, when larger challenges came along, they would work them out through a central governance, which was designed specifically for such, stating such the preface of it's charter of law, wherein it spoke to this government being designed to promote the best interests of the collective of otherwise distinct states.

The idea was for those distinct states to govern themselves, within the general Republican framework, where the 'true pulse of the people' would be determined by the legislation which their respective Republican legislatures, would craft bills, which would go to their respective chief executives, who would sign them into law, where the bills were recognized by the executive as being in keeping with the Constitution of their states.

Now... where one wanted to determine for instance, the 'pulse of the whole collective', one would look at the laws of the sum.

For instance, where one wanted to know 'the pulse of the people' with regard to say The Recognition of the Natural Standards of Marriage and that should would be defended by law... one should look at the circumstances wherein THE PEOPLE IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE STATES, ELECTED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LEGISLATORS, WHO INTRODUCED BILLS INTO THEIR CONGRESSIONAL HOUSE AND DEBATED THOSE BILLS, WHEREAFTER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, VOTED TO PASS THE BILL AND SEND IT TO THE SENATE, WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SENATORS OF THE STATES CONSIDERED THE BILL AND DEBATED IT... AND WHEREAFTER, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SENATORS PASSED THE BILL AND SENT BACK DOWN TO THE CONGRESS... WHERE IT WAS DEBATED, MARKED UP TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY VETTING TO BE SURE THAT THE BILL COULD BE EFFECTIVELY INTRODUCED INTO LAW, WHEREUPON THE FORMALLY PASSED BILL WAS SENT TO THE STATES' CHIEF EXECUTIVE, WHO THEN CONSIDERED THE BILL AND AFTER DOING SO, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CHIEF EXECUTIVES PASSED THE BILLS REPRESENTING THE WILL OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE INTO LAW.

THAT is the only true way to KNOW the 'true pulse of the people'.

And it is THAT pulse which YOU and the ANSA Cult are desperate to STOP, through the whimsy of illegitimate abuse of power by Subjective reasoning being illicitly applied through the authority of the judiciary, the power of which, rests entirely upon THE OBJECTIVE REASONING ESSENTIAL TO THE LEGITIMACY OF THAT BODY!

So, your claiming that you're advocating for the majority, when you're entire advocacy is posing a mouthy and otherwise tiny, insignificant minority, as a sweeping majority.

"37 of 50 states have made Gay-Marriage Legal".

That is not only NOT TRUE, it is NOWHERE CLOSE TO BEING TRUE.

The vast majority of the people in those states voted to ENFORCE THE NATURAL STANDARD OF MARRIAGE, through the above noted legislative process. And less than 10 people, WHO DO NOT LIVE IN THOSE STATES, OVERTURNED "THE TRUE PULSE OF THE PEOPLE".


In short, you and your cult are evil... doing what evil has always done.

And we can rest assured that your would-be efforts will result in the same thing that evil ALWAYS RESULTS IN!

You're already spamming block posts? Damn.....that didn't take long.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You're already spamming block posts? Damn.....that didn't take long.

ROFLMNAO!

And yet on just the last page, the cult was claiming that their opposition was 'too wordy'... And here they are, demonstrating ONCE AGAIN... their own guilt of that which they project upon others.

Which is twice in as many posts.

LOL! Not THAT is CRAZY CONSISTENT.

 

[Skylar]

Silhouette is delusional- and immune to rational thought- ...

Rational thought?

You're speaking of the 'thought', born from your conclusion, that behavior which not only deviates from the human physiological norm, IT DEVIATES AS FAR FROM THAT STANDARD NORMALITY AS FAR AS CAN BE ACHIEVED WHERE THE SUBJECTS AT ISSUE REMAIN HUMAN! AND WHICH FURTHER DEMANDS THAT THE PROFOUND DEVIANCY BE COUNTED AS "NORMAL".

Gays are lesbians are human. Ending your entire line of reasoning. Next fallacy:

There's nothing in that rationalization, which can be reasonably recognized as being based upon or in accordance with sound reason or valid logic, thus such is not 'rational'.

You simply assume that sex can only serve one purpose: procreation. Just like you assume that marriage can only serve one purpose: procreation. But neither assumption is true. Almost all sex is reproductively useless. And as all the infertile and childless couples being allowed to marry or remain married demonstrate, there's clearly a valid basis of marriage that has nothing to do with children.

Your assumption of exclusivity of purpose is thus a logical fallacy void of reason, clear thought or sensibility.

Next fallacy:

You're speaking of the 'thought', born from your assertion "37 of 50 states have now legalized Gay-Marriage".

We know this because THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THOSE STATES ELECTED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LEGISLATORS, WHO LONG DEBATED AND PASSED BILLS, WHICH WERE SIGNED BY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE GOVERNORS WHO SIGNED INTO LAW: THAT MARRIAGE IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN!

And any law that violates constitutional guarantees is invalid. As rights trump powers.

What else have you got?

 

[Skylar]

You're already spamming block posts? Damn.....that didn't take long.

ROFLMNAO!

And yet on just the last page, the cult was claiming that their opposition was 'too wordy'... And here they are, demonstrating ONCE AGAIN... their own guilt of that which they project upon others.

Which is twice in as many posts.

LOL! Not THAT is CRAZY CONSISTENT.

If you can't address the standing points and must flee to block spamming......that's not a good indication for your argument.

And you've descended into block spam after only 3 posts.

Keep running.

 

[Skylar]

Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

Cognitive dissonance:

• Cognitive dissonance is a state of mental conflict

Hmm...

Humanity is designed with two distinct but complimenting genders. This we recognize as the human physiological standard.

YOU claim that this standard is NOT a standard at all... that the whole of humanity, having been designed this way... should have no bearing on YOU... or your behavior and that the culture should be altered, away from recognition of that standard and toward the recognition of YOU and YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES...

I've said that marriage has more than one valid basis. See, your claim that marriage can serve procreation doesn't need to be wrong for my argument to work. All I have to do is demonstrate ANOTHER valid basis for marriage that has nothing to do with children. And I win.

And as all the infertile and childless couples marrying or allowed to remain married demonstrates, there's clearly a valid basis of marriage that has nothing to do with children or the ability to have them.

Having established a non-procreation related basis for marriage, your claim that marriage can ONLY be about procreation collapses.

See how that works?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

And when the people voted into law interracial marriage bans, ...

Huh... But that was based upon the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States... Have ya read it?

As are virtually all of the rulings that overturned state gay marriage bans.

No... those 'rulings' are based upon FRAUDULENCE... wherein the premise is that Homosexuality is NORMAL SEXUALITY, AND THOSE DEMONSTRATING SUCH BEHAVIOR ARE OF A SOUND (NORMAL) MIND.

When in REALITY, Homosexuality not only DEVIATES from the standard established by the Human Physiological NORM... Homosexuality DEVIATES AS FAR FROM THE HUMAN PHYSIOLOGICAL STANDARD AS IT HUMANLY POSSIBLE. And what's more, the deviancy unavoidably recognized as such is the result of a disordered mind. A disorder which is NOT 'just limited to perverse sexual cravings, but which also causes those inflicted with such, to fail to recognize many other aspects of reality.

You see, 'race' is NOT a mental disorder..., therefore, judicial decisions resting upon race are IRRELEVANT to issues of cognitive deviancy.

But, as an cognitive deviant, THERE IS NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE KNOWN THAT!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I've said that marriage has more than one valid basis.

Yes, you have. And every time you've said that, you've been wrong.

Marriage has but one BASIS: The joining of one man and one woman.

 

[Skylar]

No... those 'rulings' are based upon FRAUDULENCE

Says you. And you're nobody.

 

[Skylar]

I've said that marriage has more than one valid basis.

Yes, you have. And every time you've said that, you've been wrong.

Says you. All the infertile and childless couples allowed to be married or remain married says otherwise. They demonstrate, undeniably, that there is a perfectly valid basis of marriage that has nothing to do with children or the ability to have them.

As their marriages are just as real, just as protected, just as valid as anyone else's.

Plurality of purpose invalidates your entire argument.

 

[Skylar]

Those polls do not represent the true pulse of the American people.

Huh... Ya know what? I agree... Polls never represent a true pulse.

But ya know what DOES represent a true pulse?

Someone once had this idea... wherein groups of people would gather in distinct geographic areas, wherein these respective collectives had different views of everyday things and as a result had different ideas of how to govern, but for the most part, they agreed on the larger issues and were readily able to live along side one another, with few major challenges, but possessing the means to reason objectively, when larger challenges came along, they would work them out through a central governance, which was designed specifically for such, stating such the preface of it's charter of law, wherein it spoke to this government being designed to promote the best interests of the collective of otherwise distinct states.

The idea was for those distinct states to govern themselves, within the general Republican framework, where the 'true pulse of the people' would be determined by the legislation which their respective Republican legislatures, would craft bills, which would go to their respective chief executives, who would sign them into law, where the bills were recognized by the executive as being in keeping with the Constitution of their states.

Now... where one wanted to determine for instance, the 'pulse of the whole collective', one would look at the laws of the sum.

For instance, where one wanted to know 'the pulse of the people' with regard to say The Recognition of the Natural Standards of Marriage and that should would be defended by law... one should look at the circumstances wherein THE PEOPLE IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE STATES, ELECTED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE LEGISLATORS, WHO INTRODUCED BILLS INTO THEIR CONGRESSIONAL HOUSE AND DEBATED THOSE BILLS, WHEREAFTER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, VOTED TO PASS THE BILL AND SEND IT TO THE SENATE, WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SENATORS OF THE STATES CONSIDERED THE BILL AND DEBATED IT... AND WHEREAFTER, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SENATORS PASSED THE BILL AND SENT BACK DOWN TO THE CONGRESS... WHERE IT WAS DEBATED, MARKED UP TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY VETTING TO BE SURE THAT THE BILL COULD BE EFFECTIVELY INTRODUCED INTO LAW, WHEREUPON THE FORMALLY PASSED BILL WAS SENT TO THE STATES' CHIEF EXECUTIVE, WHO THEN CONSIDERED THE BILL AND AFTER DOING SO, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CHIEF EXECUTIVES PASSED THE BILLS REPRESENTING THE WILL OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE INTO LAW.

THAT is the only true way to KNOW the 'true pulse of the people'.

And it is THAT pulse which YOU and the ANSA Cult are desperate to STOP, through the whimsy of illegitimate abuse of power by Subjective reasoning being illicitly applied through the authority of the judiciary, the power of which, rests entirely upon THE OBJECTIVE REASONING ESSENTIAL TO THE LEGITIMACY OF THAT BODY!

So, your claiming that you're advocating for the majority, when you're entire advocacy is posing a mouthy and otherwise tiny, insignificant minority, as a sweeping majority.

"37 of 50 states have made Gay-Marriage Legal".

That is not only NOT TRUE, it is NOWHERE CLOSE TO BEING TRUE.

The vast majority of the people in those states voted to ENFORCE THE NATURAL STANDARD OF MARRIAGE, through the above noted legislative process. And less than 10 people, WHO DO NOT LIVE IN THOSE STATES, OVERTURNED "THE TRUE PULSE OF THE PEOPLE".


In short, you and your cult are evil... doing what evil has always done.

And we can rest assured that your would-be efforts will result in the same thing that evil ALWAYS RESULTS IN!

And we're back to the block spam. I can always tell when you think the argument is going badly for you. Its right where you refuse to address the standing points and flee to block spamming.

Keep running.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I've said that marriage has more than one valid basis.

Yes, you have. And every time you've said that, you've been wrong.

Says you.

Says Nature... which it 'said', through the standard it created through THE PHYSIOLOGICAL DESIGN of HUMANITY.

 

[Skylar]

Silhouette is delusional- and immune to rational thought- ...

Rational thought?

You're speaking of the 'thought', born from your conclusion, that behavior which not only deviates from the human physiological norm, IT DEVIATES AS FAR FROM THAT STANDARD NORMALITY AS FAR AS CAN BE ACHIEVED WHERE THE SUBJECTS AT ISSUE REMAIN HUMAN! AND WHICH FURTHER DEMANDS THAT THE PROFOUND DEVIANCY BE COUNTED AS "NORMAL".

Gays are lesbians are human.

... who suffer a mental disorder

Says you, citing your personal opinion. And you're nobody.

We're not going to deny gays and lesbians any rights because of your personal opinion.

Get used to the idea.

Ya see... deviation from sound reasoning leads to unsound reasoning and unsound reasoning is "BAD". And it is BAD because it can only lead to CHAOS, CALAMITY AND CATASTROPHE!

Says you. Again, you're offering us the Begging the Question fallacy. Where you hold your beliefs because you hold your beliefs. But you can't actually factually establish them. That's just subjective opinion...with you citing yourself.

And you're not enough.

So what else have you got?

 

[Skylar]

I've said that marriage has more than one valid basis.

Yes, you have. And every time you've said that, you've been wrong.

Says you.

Says Nature... which it 'said', through the standard it created in the DESIGN OF THE PHYSIOLOGICAL DESIGN of HUMANITY.

And now a predictable appeal to authority fallacy. Where you pretend you speak for nature. But you don't.

Sex, like marriage, can serve more than one purpose too. You insist its only for procreation.

Back in reality, almost all sex is reproductively useless. There's more than just procreation in having sex. There's fun. There is pleasure. There is bonding. There is relaxation. There is exercise. All of these are perfectly valid, perfectly rational reasons to have sex.

You've painted yourself into a corner again, insisting that ONLY reproduction is a rational reason to have sex. And your fallacy of exclusivity is provably false. There are many valid reasons.

You fail again.

 

[Skylar]

Says you, citing your personal opinion. And you're nobody.

I'm merely quoting nature... the creator of humanity. Which is the determinator of 'reality'.

No, you're merely quoting yourself, pretending to be nature. Or the 'creator'. Or whatever other Appeal to Authority fallacy you are clinging to today.

See above for where your 'sex is only for procreation' idiocy broke.

 

[Syriusly]

Gays are lesbians are human.[sic]

... who suffer a mental disorder, wherein they crave sexual gratification from those of their own gender. A profound DEVIANCY of the HUMAN MIND.)

blah blah blah.....what a bigot.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

blah blah blah.....what a bigot.

What a marvelous demonstration of intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself!

(Reader: The definition of the word Bigot, is demonstrated through the very use of the word itself.)

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Gays are lesbians are human.[sic]

... who suffer a mental disorder, wherein they crave sexual gratification from those of their own gender. A profound DEVIANCY of the HUMAN MIND.

Your claim is that because the deviant mind exists, deviancy should be counted as NORMALITY.

Which is a profound demonstration of the perversion of human thought, exemplified through deviant reasoning.

Ya see... deviation from sound reasoning leads to unsound reasoning and unsound reasoning is "BAD". And it is BAD because it can only lead to CHAOS, CALAMITY AND CATASTROPHE!

(Reader, Homosexuals were in the closet, because humanity PUT THEM THERE. AND WE DID SO FOR A REASON! What we're witnessing today IS A DEMONSTRATION OF THAT REASON.)

 

[Skylar]

blah blah blah.....what a bigot.

What a marvelous demonstration of intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself!

(Reader: The definition of the word Bigot, is demonstrated through the very use of the word itself.)

Says the guy that insists that if you don't agree with him, you're evil.

Dude, if not for double standards, you'd have no standards at all.