Should muslims be allowed to be airline pilots?

[Gracie]

complete historonics

Yes, don't want to get all worked up just because a hundred people are murdered. What's the big deal? Same thing with the beheadings. A little beheading and people get all worked up. How about that sixty minutes reporter (Lara Logan) being gang raped in the street by muslims? What's the big deal.

The guy was German chicken little

I'm betting the guy was German Islamic.

 

[eots]

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

...

Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

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Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

why would he crash into a mountain..and not a populated area

 

[eots]

Maybe a good solution would be to make sure there are always THREE pilots in the cockpit at all times. Regardless of religious faith. There are only two now, right? Pilot and co pilot. So if one goes wacko while the other is taking a pee break, the other co pilot is there as back up. 3. At all times. Never just ONE in the cockpit.

Maybe a good solution would be to make sure there are always THREE pilots in the cockpit at all times. Regardless of religious faith. There are only two now, right? Pilot and co pilot. So if one goes wacko while the other is taking a pee break, the other co pilot is there as back up. 3. At all times. Never just ONE in the cockpit.

Yes for an event almost as rare as unicorn sightings we will put three pilots in every plane...good lord woman

So what the fuck do you suggest, sparky?

sometimes shit happens

 

[Gracie]

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

...

Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

...

Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

why would he crash into a mountain..and not a populated area

Shit happens.

 

[eots]

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

...

Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.
In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

...

Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

why would he crash into a mountain..and not a populated area

Shit happens.

makes little sense for a terrorist

 

[sealybobo]

Should muslims [sic] be allowed to be airline pilots?

Yep.

I'd like to know if my pilots a Muslim.

 

[sealybobo]

Given their history of murdering innocent people, usually through the practice of hijacking planes, the answer to your question is a definite and resounding NO! In fact, they shouldn't be allowed to even board planes as passengers.

At least not arrivals. I'm OK with departures.

 

[EatMorChikin]

Maybe a good solution would be to make sure there are always THREE pilots in the cockpit at all times. Regardless of religious faith. There are only two now, right? Pilot and co pilot. So if one goes wacko while the other is taking a pee break, the other co pilot is there as back up. 3. At all times. Never just ONE in the cockpit.

You make too much sense.

 

[EatMorChikin]

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

...

Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

I wanna learn more about this dude. But no sane person can deny, that this whole incident has the characteristics of the blood cult. Not jumping to any conclusion yet, but it would shock me none.

 

[sealybobo]

Maybe a good solution would be to make sure there are always THREE pilots in the cockpit at all times. Regardless of religious faith. There are only two now, right? Pilot and co pilot. So if one goes wacko while the other is taking a pee break, the other co pilot is there as back up. 3. At all times. Never just ONE in the cockpit.

Costs will go up. Make the 3rd an air marshall instead of a pilot.

 

[sealybobo]

Israel Matzav Gee do you think this is relevant Germanwings co-pilot reported to be a recent convert to Islam

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met the woman through his Muslims friends.

One said that Lubitz had broken off the relationship after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.

We do know that Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany.

Bremen is home to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan Mosque:

This Mosque was raided by the police in December 2014

BERLIN, Dec 5 (KUNA) — German authorities have closed a mosque in the northern city of Bremen, after it was accused of encouraging youth to join the extremist Islamic State group (known as ISIL), which is carrying out violent killings across Syria and Iraq.

In unprecedented circumstances, more than 100 German police personnel carried out a search of Masjidu-l-Furqan and its accompanying cultural office, which had both been under police radar since 2007.

The decision comes amid the fight against ISIL ideology, Bremen Interior Secretary Ulrich Maurer said, accusing the mosque’s management of promoting ISIL values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq, and join the ranks of the group, along with Al-Nusra Front – another extremist group in Syria.

The centre have so far succeeded in inspiring a total eight men, seven women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join ISIL, according to the official.Lubitz did his time in Bremen when the Mosque was under surveillance.

...

Lubitz converted to Islam during his break.

I wanna learn more about this dude. But no sane person can deny, that this whole incident has the characteristics of the blood cult. Not jumping to any conclusion yet, but it would shock me none.

They wouldn't say if he's a muslim

 

[idb]

I think passengers should be allowed to be armed so that one of them could have blasted their way into the cockpit, shot the raghead pilot, hauled his carcasse out of the seat and sat down, admitted with an ironic quip and raised eyebrow to the attractive flight attendant that I (erm...HE) had no idea how to fly these things, managed to get it down onto the runway with instructions from the tower but skidding uncontrollably with the me (umm..the heroic passenger) wrestling the controls all the way until it came to rest teetering over a precipice in eery silence.
Then, after a few seconds, one of the wings would drop off and the passengers would erupt into cheers.
Phew!

 

[Brucethethinker]

How do I do it? When the crash first happened, when everyone was calling it a mechanical failure, I posted that it looked like muslims to me. Then we find out it was a deliberate act, and everyone is saying his religion doesn't matter. Now it's coming out that, guess what? HE'S A MUSLIM! How do I do it?

I don't listen to the liberal psycho-logic, I just use my little pea-brain. I think, who is killing people, themselves included? Those guys who flew the planes into out buildings on 9-11-01, what did they all have in common? O yes, they were all MUSLIM. Why am I, a dumb hillbilly, able to figure this out when all the brilliant people on this board, and in the news, aren't? I just don't get it.

 

[Esmeralda]

A person's religion has no bearing on safety.

Do you honestly believe that? Suppose his religion is one that teaches that he MUST do all he can to kill as many infidels as possible. That would have no bearing on safety? Suppose he has made speaches urging people to kill as many as possible, would you STILL let him pilot an airline? Before you make blanket statements, you might want to think it out first. Just an idea.

Muslim pilots fly over this country all day everyday you loon

LOL These people are so funny.

 

[Esmeralda]

I think passengers should be allowed to be armed so that one of them could have blasted their way into the cockpit, shot the raghead pilot, hauled his carcasse out of the seat and sat down, admitted with an ironic quip and raised eyebrow to the attractive flight attendant that I (erm...HE) had no idea how to fly these things, managed to get it down onto the runway with instructions from the tower but skidding uncontrollably with the me (umm..the heroic passenger) wrestling the controls all the way until it came to rest teetering over a precipice in eery silence.
Then, after a few seconds, one of the wings would drop off and the passengers would erupt into cheers.
Phew!

Raghead pilot. LOL He was a German...white...Christian. You guys are funny.

 

[Esmeralda]

All the planes that are deliberately crashed have had muslim pilots.

... not true

Can you please cite an example of a AIRLINE that was deliberately crashed, and piloted by a non-muslim?

I can do better than that:

ASN News List of aircraft accidents caused by pilot suicide

This doesn't say what religion, only what country the plane is from. I fly often, internationally. Most of the time, the pilot may not be a native of the country the airline is. That is, a pilot for Indonesian Airlines may be Western and from America. A pilot for any airline is not necessarily a person of the same religion or ethnic background as the airline itself. The article you cite doesn't say anything about the pilot's nationality or religion.

 

[orogenicman]

All the planes that are deliberately crashed have had muslim pilots.

... not true

Can you please cite an example of a AIRLINE that was deliberately crashed, and piloted by a non-muslim?

I can do better than that:

ASN News List of aircraft accidents caused by pilot suicide

This doesn't say what religion, only what country the plane is from. I fly often, internationally. Most of the time, the pilot may not be a native of the country the airline is. That is, a pilot for Indonesian Airlines may be Western and from America. A pilot for any airline is not necessarily a person of the same religion or ethnic background as the airline itself. The article you cite doesn't say anything about the pilot's nationality or religion.

From the link:

26 September 1976 – 12 fatalities
A Russian pilot stole an Antonov 2 airplane directed his aircraft into the block of flats in Novosibirsk where his divorced wife lived. (ASN Accident Description)

I suspect it is a good bet this guy wasn't a Muslim. Just a guess.

Or this one:

22 August 1979 – 4 fatalities
A 23 year old male mechanic who had just been fired entered a hangar at Bogotá Airport, Colombia and stole a military HS-748 transport plane. He took off and crashed the plane in a residential area. (ASN Accident Description).

This one as well:

13 July 1994 – 1 fatality
A Russian Air Force engineer stole the aircraft at the Kubinka AFB to commit suicide. The aircraft crashed when there was no more fuel left. (ASN Accident Description)

 

[Esmeralda]

All the planes that are deliberately crashed have had muslim pilots.

... not true

Can you please cite an example of a AIRLINE that was deliberately crashed, and piloted by a non-muslim?

I can do better than that:

ASN News List of aircraft accidents caused by pilot suicide

This doesn't say what religion, only what country the plane is from. I fly often, internationally. Most of the time, the pilot may not be a native of the country the airline is. That is, a pilot for Indonesian Airlines may be Western and from America. A pilot for any airline is not necessarily a person of the same religion or ethnic background as the airline itself. The article you cite doesn't say anything about the pilot's nationality or religion.

From the link:

26 September 1976 – 12 fatalities
A Russian pilot stole an Antonov 2 airplane directed his aircraft into the block of flats in Novosibirsk where his divorced wife lived. (ASN Accident Description)

I suspect it is a good bet this guy wasn't a Muslim. Just a guess.

Or this one:

22 August 1979 – 4 fatalities
A 23 year old male mechanic who had just been fired entered a hangar at Bogotá Airport, Colombia and stole a military HS-748 transport plane. He took off and crashed the plane in a residential area. (ASN Accident Description).

This one as well:

13 July 1994 – 1 fatality
A Russian Air Force engineer stole the aircraft at the Kubinka AFB to commit suicide. The aircraft crashed when there was no more fuel left. (ASN Accident Description)

The Russian ones are probably not Muslim. The other one, probably also not Muslim. I am certainly not siding with these idiots who say most pilot suicides have been Muslims, but my point is that the information we have does not pinpoint any of the pilots' religions. That's all.

 

[FA_Q2]

I think passengers should be allowed to be armed so that one of them could have blasted their way into the cockpit, shot the raghead pilot, hauled his carcasse out of the seat and sat down, admitted with an ironic quip and raised eyebrow to the attractive flight attendant that I (erm...HE) had no idea how to fly these things, managed to get it down onto the runway with instructions from the tower but skidding uncontrollably with the me (umm..the heroic passenger) wrestling the controls all the way until it came to rest teetering over a precipice in eery silence.
Then, after a few seconds, one of the wings would drop off and the passengers would erupt into cheers.
Phew!

Raghead pilot. LOL He was a German...white...Christian. You guys are funny.

I don't think you are correct there.

All the planes that are deliberately crashed have had muslim pilots.

... not true

Can you please cite an example of a AIRLINE that was deliberately crashed, and piloted by a non-muslim?

I can do better than that:

ASN News List of aircraft accidents caused by pilot suicide

This doesn't say what religion, only what country the plane is from. I fly often, internationally. Most of the time, the pilot may not be a native of the country the airline is. That is, a pilot for Indonesian Airlines may be Western and from America. A pilot for any airline is not necessarily a person of the same religion or ethnic background as the airline itself. The article you cite doesn't say anything about the pilot's nationality or religion.

From the link:

26 September 1976 – 12 fatalities
A Russian pilot stole an Antonov 2 airplane directed his aircraft into the block of flats in Novosibirsk where his divorced wife lived. (ASN Accident Description)

I suspect it is a good bet this guy wasn't a Muslim. Just a guess.

Or this one:

22 August 1979 – 4 fatalities
A 23 year old male mechanic who had just been fired entered a hangar at Bogotá Airport, Colombia and stole a military HS-748 transport plane. He took off and crashed the plane in a residential area. (ASN Accident Description).

This one as well:

13 July 1994 – 1 fatality
A Russian Air Force engineer stole the aircraft at the Kubinka AFB to commit suicide. The aircraft crashed when there was no more fuel left. (ASN Accident Description)

Those are not comparable incidents - they were not passenger laden aircraft that killed over a hundred people.

 

[Esmeralda]

I think passengers should be allowed to be armed so that one of them could have blasted their way into the cockpit, shot the raghead pilot, hauled his carcasse out of the seat and sat down, admitted with an ironic quip and raised eyebrow to the attractive flight attendant that I (erm...HE) had no idea how to fly these things, managed to get it down onto the runway with instructions from the tower but skidding uncontrollably with the me (umm..the heroic passenger) wrestling the controls all the way until it came to rest teetering over a precipice in eery silence.
Then, after a few seconds, one of the wings would drop off and the passengers would erupt into cheers.
Phew!

Raghead pilot. LOL He was a German...white...Christian. You guys are funny.

I don't think you are correct there.

... not true

Can you please cite an example of a AIRLINE that was deliberately crashed, and piloted by a non-muslim?

I can do better than that:

ASN News List of aircraft accidents caused by pilot suicide

This doesn't say what religion, only what country the plane is from. I fly often, internationally. Most of the time, the pilot may not be a native of the country the airline is. That is, a pilot for Indonesian Airlines may be Western and from America. A pilot for any airline is not necessarily a person of the same religion or ethnic background as the airline itself. The article you cite doesn't say anything about the pilot's nationality or religion.

From the link:

26 September 1976 – 12 fatalities
A Russian pilot stole an Antonov 2 airplane directed his aircraft into the block of flats in Novosibirsk where his divorced wife lived. (ASN Accident Description)

I suspect it is a good bet this guy wasn't a Muslim. Just a guess.

Or this one:

22 August 1979 – 4 fatalities
A 23 year old male mechanic who had just been fired entered a hangar at Bogotá Airport, Colombia and stole a military HS-748 transport plane. He took off and crashed the plane in a residential area. (ASN Accident Description).

This one as well:

13 July 1994 – 1 fatality
A Russian Air Force engineer stole the aircraft at the Kubinka AFB to commit suicide. The aircraft crashed when there was no more fuel left. (ASN Accident Description)

Those are not comparable incidents - they were not passenger laden aircraft that killed over a hundred people.

I'm not saying any were Muslim. That was not my point at all. Use some reading comprehension. I am saying that of all records we have of those pilots who committed suicide by downing a plane, we do not know their religion. My guess is that they were not Muslim, maybe one or two. But we don't have the facts on that because that is not how the information has been gathered, not according to the site cited.

I am certainly not siding with these idiots who are saying the co-pilot who intentionally downed this plane had to be Muslim or that most pilots who do so are Muslim.