Should we be fiscally responsible?

[sartre play]

Would like to see reply's to post # 85

 

[Rye Catcher]

You should look at history. Reagan tripled the debt. Clinton got us a balanced budget. Bush drastically increased deficits. Obama had huge deficits during recession and they declined. Trump has given us huge deficits during a strong economy. Your belief has 0 backing....

Clinton benefited from the .com boom. Bush went to that stupid war and he benefited* from the .com crash. Obama spent a lot to get us out of a recession. He also had the sequester and gave us the ACA. He never attacked entitlements but made himself a multi millionaire.

And there is no reason to believe repubs will do anything. trump ran on it and has done the opposite. Dems have a bad, but better record. You are a smart guy, look at the facts.

That Democrat party, Brain, is long gone. They have been hijacked by the Squad, Socialists and Progressives. Obama would be considered too moderate for this party. They are worried about men peeing in women's rest rooms, vilifying Israel and telling me I have white privilege vs. fixing the deficit and lowering the debt. They do want to raise my taxes and give the monies to those that don't pay any taxes. No thanks. I agree with you, if Trump doesn't attack entitlements and lower our deficit I will be very disappointed.

Fear of change in the social structure is the foundation of the hate expressed in your post, and in many posts of trump supporters. Additionally, everyone pays taxes, in one form or another, with the graphic example that some corporations pay a net zero in the current tax bill.

Once again the consequences of cutting off the aged, the infirm and children from the safety net you claim are entitlements will have consequences for families, local communities and states.

Your man trump not only has not read and understood the articles in COTUS, he has not read and daily violates the Mission Statement left to us by the Framers, clearly stated within the Preamble.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​

My man Trump? It is posts like these that drive me to donate monies to the GOP to fight against Leftists. And defense is spelled with an "s" not a "c". I do not fear anything. I disagree with it.

Off topic, personal attack + ignorance (the spelling of defense in the 18th Century was defence).

Maybe you didn't vote for trump, maybe you didn't vote at all. I don't care, your posts make it easy to infer that you support trump and his policies.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I’m glad the vote is going on the way of responsibility.

You think reducing spending is funny.

Typical unserious Leftard who doesn’t give a damn about the deficit.

Its funny how you say let’s cut all their stuff and show no responsibility for your stuff.

Like what? I’m totally for cutting spending. Name 5 things that should be cut.
I have a good idea what you’ll list.
And it’s Trump 2020 Gold.
But go for it, give us a list of where to cut.

• Raise the retirement age for those under 40 to 70 and those under 30 to 72.
• Do a deep dive into Medicaid and cut all the fraud.
• Lower Federal jobs/comp. - Federal employees receive significantly higher total compensation than similar private-sector employees. I know many people who work at the EPA and other such locales and make well into six figures while sitting at home in their pajamas. Would never happen in a private company. Accountability matters.
• Federal Sales tax of 2% on all new goods until debt is paid down to $10Trn. Even income tax evaders such as drug dealers and welfare recipients would now pay taxes when they buy goods like sneakers, etc.
• ^^ Would lower interest expense significantly ^^

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Since republicans have thrown out fiscal responsibility I'm really curious what people say now. I think everyone should be for balanced budgets and decreasing debt. If you are for small government the reason is obvious. If you are a liberal you should hate all the tax dollars that are going for interest rather than your programs.

Of course liberals are for fiscal responsibility. Democrats are known as the party of "tax and spend", but notice that they "tax" before they spend, in order to fund the spending.

Why do you care? You're not American!??!?! This boggles my mind.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Clinton benefited from the .com boom. Bush went to that stupid war and he benefited* from the .com crash. Obama spent a lot to get us out of a recession. He also had the sequester and gave us the ACA. He never attacked entitlements but made himself a multi millionaire.

And there is no reason to believe repubs will do anything. trump ran on it and has done the opposite. Dems have a bad, but better record. You are a smart guy, look at the facts.

That Democrat party, Brain, is long gone. They have been hijacked by the Squad, Socialists and Progressives. Obama would be considered too moderate for this party. They are worried about men peeing in women's rest rooms, vilifying Israel and telling me I have white privilege vs. fixing the deficit and lowering the debt. They do want to raise my taxes and give the monies to those that don't pay any taxes. No thanks. I agree with you, if Trump doesn't attack entitlements and lower our deficit I will be very disappointed.

Fear of change in the social structure is the foundation of the hate expressed in your post, and in many posts of trump supporters. Additionally, everyone pays taxes, in one form or another, with the graphic example that some corporations pay a net zero in the current tax bill.

Once again the consequences of cutting off the aged, the infirm and children from the safety net you claim are entitlements will have consequences for families, local communities and states.

Your man trump not only has not read and understood the articles in COTUS, he has not read and daily violates the Mission Statement left to us by the Framers, clearly stated within the Preamble.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​

My man Trump? It is posts like these that drive me to donate monies to the GOP to fight against Leftists. And defense is spelled with an "s" not a "c". I do not fear anything. I disagree with it.

Off topic, personal attack + ignorance (the spelling of defense in the 18th Century was defence).

Maybe you didn't vote for trump, maybe you didn't vote at all. I don't care, your post make it easy to infer that you support trump and his policies.

I support free markets. I am actually disappointed in how DJT has handled the budget and healthcare. Why are you using old English? Weird. I do despise progressive Leftists and their virtue signaling.

 

[CowboyTed]

Unlike Obama, what President Trump is doing for this country is damned well worth it. So damned the expense.

You know he is just pumping the economy in time of boom... This economics of an idiot...

Can you tell me why you borrow one trillion a year in a boom?

Obama was in a deep recession on day one and had to pump the economy to keep it out of a depression which could have lasted a decade...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Unlike Obama, what President Trump is doing for this country is damned well worth it. So damned the expense.

You know he is just pumping the economy in time of boom... This economics of an idiot...

Can you tell me why you borrow one trillion a year in a boom?

Obama was in a deep recession on day one and had to pump the economy to keep it out of a depression which could have lasted a decade...

Nope.

When the recession officially ended in June 2009, just 15% of the stimulus money had gone out the door. And that figure's likely inflated, since almost a third of the money was in the form of grants to states, which some studies suggest they didn't spend, but used to pay down debt.


Other programs Obama often touts — Cash for Clunkers, mortgage help, homebuyer tax credits, the auto rescue plans — either came as the recession had ended or was ending or were widely deemed to be busts.


Also often overlooked is that a tremendous amount of stimulus already was in the economy when Obama took office, including President Bush's $150 billion stimulus, two unemployment benefit extensions and $250 billion spent on "automatic stabilizers."


More importantly, the Bush administration pushed through the controversial $700 billion TARP program (which Obama sustained), while the Fed pursued an aggressive anti-recession campaign by, among other things, effectively lowering its target interest rate to zero.
Did Obama Really Prevent A Second Great Depression? | Investor's Business Daily

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Unlike Obama, what President Trump is doing for this country is damned well worth it. So damned the expense.

You know he is just pumping the economy in time of boom... This economics of an idiot...

Can you tell me why you borrow one trillion a year in a boom?

Obama was in a deep recession on day one and had to pump the economy to keep it out of a depression which could have lasted a decade...

Obama was in a deep recession on day one and had to pump the economy to keep it out of a depression which could have lasted a decade...

That's hilarious!!!
The recession ended in June 2009.
What did he do to stop a depression in less than 5 months?

 

[Rye Catcher]

I’m glad the vote is going on the way of responsibility.

You think reducing spending is funny.

Typical unserious Leftard who doesn’t give a damn about the deficit.

Its funny how you say let’s cut all their stuff and show no responsibility for your stuff.

Like what? I’m totally for cutting spending. Name 5 things that should be cut.
I have a good idea what you’ll list.
And it’s Trump 2020 Gold.
But go for it, give us a list of where to cut.

• Raise the retirement age for those under 40 to 70 and those under 30 to 72.
• Do a deep dive into Medicaid and cut all the fraud.
• Lower Federal jobs/comp. - Federal employees receive significantly higher total compensation than similar private-sector employees. I know many people who work at the EPA and other such locales and make well into six figures while sitting at home in their pajamas. Would never happen in a private company. Accountability matters.
• Federal Sales tax of 2% on all new goods until debt is paid down to $10Trn. Even income tax evaders such as drug dealers and welfare recipients would now pay taxes when they buy goods like sneakers, etc.
• ^^ Would lower interest expense significantly ^^

• On October 10, 2019, the Social Security Administration (SSA) announced that the 2020 Social Security wage base will be $137,700, which is an increase of $4,800 from $132,900 in 2019. There should be no wage base, high earners (professional athletes, movie stars, CEO's, Doctors, Lawyers, etc.) can well afford the hit.
• Agreed. Fraud is still a crime, and it is time to enforce the crime which is part of the PPACA, if a recall correctly
• Evidence. Speaking only for local government not all employees earn more than the private sector. And the vast majority are not managers or chiefs, they are clerks and secretaries, custodians/janitors and line staff
• A federal sales tax will impact the vast majority of workers, it is thus a regressive form of taxation. The more taken from The People, the less currency will circulate through the communities in which they reside. And, The Congress will have more money which will likely increase the logrolling among its members.
• Fiscal responsibility is not taking from Paul to Pay Peter.

 

[Rye Catcher]

And there is no reason to believe repubs will do anything. trump ran on it and has done the opposite. Dems have a bad, but better record. You are a smart guy, look at the facts.

That Democrat party, Brain, is long gone. They have been hijacked by the Squad, Socialists and Progressives. Obama would be considered too moderate for this party. They are worried about men peeing in women's rest rooms, vilifying Israel and telling me I have white privilege vs. fixing the deficit and lowering the debt. They do want to raise my taxes and give the monies to those that don't pay any taxes. No thanks. I agree with you, if Trump doesn't attack entitlements and lower our deficit I will be very disappointed.

Fear of change in the social structure is the foundation of the hate expressed in your post, and in many posts of trump supporters. Additionally, everyone pays taxes, in one form or another, with the graphic example that some corporations pay a net zero in the current tax bill.

Once again the consequences of cutting off the aged, the infirm and children from the safety net you claim are entitlements will have consequences for families, local communities and states.

Your man trump not only has not read and understood the articles in COTUS, he has not read and daily violates the Mission Statement left to us by the Framers, clearly stated within the Preamble.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​

My man Trump? It is posts like these that drive me to donate monies to the GOP to fight against Leftists. And defense is spelled with an "s" not a "c". I do not fear anything. I disagree with it.

Off topic, personal attack + ignorance (the spelling of defense in the 18th Century was defence).

Maybe you didn't vote for trump, maybe you didn't vote at all. I don't care, your post make it easy to infer that you support trump and his policies.

I support free markets. I am actually disappointed in how DJT has handled the budget and healthcare. Why are you using old English? Weird. I do despise progressive Leftists and their virtue signaling.

I too support free trade. I'm not using old English, I quoted the Preamble as it was written. I don't edit quotes.

 

[White 6]

The last time I saw fiscal responsibility was under Bill Clinton, working with the contract for America Republican. The economy still grew at acceptable rates. It went out the window with Baby Bush and strike down of balanced budget amendment. Now we spend like drunken sailors in port. Could slightly understand under Obama, applying Keynesian solutions to crash resulting from lack of regulation and supply side economics, but do not understand why it continues.

 

[DustyInfinity]

Last I checked they are planning to pay for their plans. Wealth taxes and all that.

Yeah, like AOC's 'Green New Apocalypse'?! She finally admitted that the US would financially collapse before it ever got close to completing even half of the plan if they tried to do so.

Didn’t vote for her.

That wing of your party seems to be in control. What are you going to do? Even if you believe your side can squeeze enough revenue out of people to pay for the super programs, those lunies would tear the country apart.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I’m glad the vote is going on the way of responsibility.

You think reducing spending is funny.

Typical unserious Leftard who doesn’t give a damn about the deficit.

Its funny how you say let’s cut all their stuff and show no responsibility for your stuff.

Like what? I’m totally for cutting spending. Name 5 things that should be cut.
I have a good idea what you’ll list.
And it’s Trump 2020 Gold.
But go for it, give us a list of where to cut.

• Raise the retirement age for those under 40 to 70 and those under 30 to 72.
• Do a deep dive into Medicaid and cut all the fraud.
• Lower Federal jobs/comp. - Federal employees receive significantly higher total compensation than similar private-sector employees. I know many people who work at the EPA and other such locales and make well into six figures while sitting at home in their pajamas. Would never happen in a private company. Accountability matters.
• Federal Sales tax of 2% on all new goods until debt is paid down to $10Trn. Even income tax evaders such as drug dealers and welfare recipients would now pay taxes when they buy goods like sneakers, etc.
• ^^ Would lower interest expense significantly ^^

• On October 10, 2019, the Social Security Administration (SSA) announced that the 2020 Social Security wage base will be $137,700, which is an increase of $4,800 from $132,900 in 2019. There should be no wage base, high earners (professional athletes, movie stars, CEO's, Doctors, Lawyers, etc.) can well afford the hit.
• Agreed. Fraud is still a crime, and it is time to enforce the crime which is part of the PPACA, if a recall correctly
• Evidence. Speaking only for local government not all employees earn more than the private sector. And the vast majority are not managers or chiefs, they are clerks and secretaries, custodians/janitors and line staff
• A federal sales tax will impact the vast majority of workers, it is thus a regressive form of taxation. The more taken from The People, the less currency will circulate through the communities in which they reside. And, The Congress will have more money which will likely increase the logrolling among its members.
• Fiscal responsibility is not taking from Paul to Pay Peter.

No cap? Why? “They can afford to pay more” doesn’t mean they should.

 

[boilermaker55]

Quite sensible but to throw a monkey wrench into just one of your proposals...
4. establish 'tiger teams' in each government agency to hyper-aggressively hunt down and eliminate government waste
It would seem that those "corporations" that get HUGE government contracts would be difficult to convince that they are not using their money how they deem appropriate.
I do, however, find it a very sane and plausible action.
But knowing how those companies use the Government; watch their lobbyists and where the money comes from and goes. Which brings up another point....Citizens United needs to go.

Yes... we should be fiscally responsible... but not at the expense of worthwhile domestic programs.

1. cut foreign aid to the bare bone
2. right-size the military and use it far more sparingly
3. revise tax law to force corporations and the rich to pay some sensible minimum tax regardless of deductibles
4. establish 'tiger teams' in each government agency to hyper-aggressively hunt down and eliminate government waste
5. restructure the nation's debt through multiple techniques ( interest freezing, renegotiation, defaults, deferments, etc. )
6. let the States fend more for themselves in a number of focal areas presently straining the national treasury

7. stop spending like drunken sailors on shore leave

Not exactly all-encompassing or entirely realistic or easy but we're in a 'bad place' and something 'radical' may be required...

The trick would be to do something 'radical' without doing harm to those amongst us who need help the most...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That Democrat party, Brain, is long gone. They have been hijacked by the Squad, Socialists and Progressives. Obama would be considered too moderate for this party. They are worried about men peeing in women's rest rooms, vilifying Israel and telling me I have white privilege vs. fixing the deficit and lowering the debt. They do want to raise my taxes and give the monies to those that don't pay any taxes. No thanks. I agree with you, if Trump doesn't attack entitlements and lower our deficit I will be very disappointed.

Fear of change in the social structure is the foundation of the hate expressed in your post, and in many posts of trump supporters. Additionally, everyone pays taxes, in one form or another, with the graphic example that some corporations pay a net zero in the current tax bill.

Once again the consequences of cutting off the aged, the infirm and children from the safety net you claim are entitlements will have consequences for families, local communities and states.

Your man trump not only has not read and understood the articles in COTUS, he has not read and daily violates the Mission Statement left to us by the Framers, clearly stated within the Preamble.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​

My man Trump? It is posts like these that drive me to donate monies to the GOP to fight against Leftists. And defense is spelled with an "s" not a "c". I do not fear anything. I disagree with it.

Off topic, personal attack + ignorance (the spelling of defense in the 18th Century was defence).

Maybe you didn't vote for trump, maybe you didn't vote at all. I don't care, your post make it easy to infer that you support trump and his policies.

I support free markets. I am actually disappointed in how DJT has handled the budget and healthcare. Why are you using old English? Weird. I do despise progressive Leftists and their virtue signaling.

I too support free trade. I'm not using old English, I quoted the Preamble as it was written. I don't edit quotes.

Not just trade. Free markets. If I need an X-ray I should be able to go to where I want to and pay what the market decides not what my insurance says it is.

 

[Rye Catcher]

You think reducing spending is funny.

Typical unserious Leftard who doesn’t give a damn about the deficit.

Its funny how you say let’s cut all their stuff and show no responsibility for your stuff.

Like what? I’m totally for cutting spending. Name 5 things that should be cut.
I have a good idea what you’ll list.
And it’s Trump 2020 Gold.
But go for it, give us a list of where to cut.

• Raise the retirement age for those under 40 to 70 and those under 30 to 72.
• Do a deep dive into Medicaid and cut all the fraud.
• Lower Federal jobs/comp. - Federal employees receive significantly higher total compensation than similar private-sector employees. I know many people who work at the EPA and other such locales and make well into six figures while sitting at home in their pajamas. Would never happen in a private company. Accountability matters.
• Federal Sales tax of 2% on all new goods until debt is paid down to $10Trn. Even income tax evaders such as drug dealers and welfare recipients would now pay taxes when they buy goods like sneakers, etc.
• ^^ Would lower interest expense significantly ^^

• On October 10, 2019, the Social Security Administration (SSA) announced that the 2020 Social Security wage base will be $137,700, which is an increase of $4,800 from $132,900 in 2019. There should be no wage base, high earners (professional athletes, movie stars, CEO's, Doctors, Lawyers, etc.) can well afford the hit.
• Agreed. Fraud is still a crime, and it is time to enforce the crime which is part of the PPACA, if a recall correctly
• Evidence. Speaking only for local government not all employees earn more than the private sector. And the vast majority are not managers or chiefs, they are clerks and secretaries, custodians/janitors and line staff
• A federal sales tax will impact the vast majority of workers, it is thus a regressive form of taxation. The more taken from The People, the less currency will circulate through the communities in which they reside. And, The Congress will have more money which will likely increase the logrolling among its members.
• Fiscal responsibility is not taking from Paul to Pay Peter.

No cap? Why? “They can afford to pay more” doesn’t mean they should.

"noblesse oblige" referred to the unwritten obligation of people from a noble ancestry to act honorably and generously to others.

Your argument maybe valid, but it is not pragmatic. The Plutocrats are not nobility, but they sure as hell act like they are.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Its funny how you say let’s cut all their stuff and show no responsibility for your stuff.

Like what? I’m totally for cutting spending. Name 5 things that should be cut.
I have a good idea what you’ll list.
And it’s Trump 2020 Gold.
But go for it, give us a list of where to cut.

• Raise the retirement age for those under 40 to 70 and those under 30 to 72.
• Do a deep dive into Medicaid and cut all the fraud.
• Lower Federal jobs/comp. - Federal employees receive significantly higher total compensation than similar private-sector employees. I know many people who work at the EPA and other such locales and make well into six figures while sitting at home in their pajamas. Would never happen in a private company. Accountability matters.
• Federal Sales tax of 2% on all new goods until debt is paid down to $10Trn. Even income tax evaders such as drug dealers and welfare recipients would now pay taxes when they buy goods like sneakers, etc.
• ^^ Would lower interest expense significantly ^^

• On October 10, 2019, the Social Security Administration (SSA) announced that the 2020 Social Security wage base will be $137,700, which is an increase of $4,800 from $132,900 in 2019. There should be no wage base, high earners (professional athletes, movie stars, CEO's, Doctors, Lawyers, etc.) can well afford the hit.
• Agreed. Fraud is still a crime, and it is time to enforce the crime which is part of the PPACA, if a recall correctly
• Evidence. Speaking only for local government not all employees earn more than the private sector. And the vast majority are not managers or chiefs, they are clerks and secretaries, custodians/janitors and line staff
• A federal sales tax will impact the vast majority of workers, it is thus a regressive form of taxation. The more taken from The People, the less currency will circulate through the communities in which they reside. And, The Congress will have more money which will likely increase the logrolling among its members.
• Fiscal responsibility is not taking from Paul to Pay Peter.

No cap? Why? “They can afford to pay more” doesn’t mean they should.

"noblesse oblige" referred to the unwritten obligation of people from a noble ancestry to act honorably and generously to others.

Your argument maybe valid, but it is not pragmatic. The Plutocrats are not nobility, but they sure as hell act like they are.

I make significantly more than $137k. I do Not see myself as nobility. I would rather keep the $$ and give to charities of my choice like the ASPCA. Instead of those gaming the system.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Fear of change in the social structure is the foundation of the hate expressed in your post, and in many posts of trump supporters. Additionally, everyone pays taxes, in one form or another, with the graphic example that some corporations pay a net zero in the current tax bill.

Once again the consequences of cutting off the aged, the infirm and children from the safety net you claim are entitlements will have consequences for families, local communities and states.

Your man trump not only has not read and understood the articles in COTUS, he has not read and daily violates the Mission Statement left to us by the Framers, clearly stated within the Preamble.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​

My man Trump? It is posts like these that drive me to donate monies to the GOP to fight against Leftists. And defense is spelled with an "s" not a "c". I do not fear anything. I disagree with it.

Off topic, personal attack + ignorance (the spelling of defense in the 18th Century was defence).

Maybe you didn't vote for trump, maybe you didn't vote at all. I don't care, your post make it easy to infer that you support trump and his policies.

I support free markets. I am actually disappointed in how DJT has handled the budget and healthcare. Why are you using old English? Weird. I do despise progressive Leftists and their virtue signaling.

I too support free trade. I'm not using old English, I quoted the Preamble as it was written. I don't edit quotes.

Not just trade. Free markets. If I need an X-ray I should be able to go to where I want to and pay what the market decides not what my insurance says it is.

No one prevents you from doing so. If you want, pay for health insurance, or don't. You can get some real cheap stuff and then pay out of pocket when you discover that the cost for an X-ray isn't controlled by a free market, and not even by competition.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

My man Trump? It is posts like these that drive me to donate monies to the GOP to fight against Leftists. And defense is spelled with an "s" not a "c". I do not fear anything. I disagree with it.

Off topic, personal attack + ignorance (the spelling of defense in the 18th Century was defence).

Maybe you didn't vote for trump, maybe you didn't vote at all. I don't care, your post make it easy to infer that you support trump and his policies.

I support free markets. I am actually disappointed in how DJT has handled the budget and healthcare. Why are you using old English? Weird. I do despise progressive Leftists and their virtue signaling.

I too support free trade. I'm not using old English, I quoted the Preamble as it was written. I don't edit quotes.

Not just trade. Free markets. If I need an X-ray I should be able to go to where I want to and pay what the market decides not what my insurance says it is.

No one prevents you from doing so. If you want, pay for health insurance, or don't. You can get some real cheap stuff and then pay out of pocket when you discover that the cost for an X-ray isn't controlled by a free market, and not even by competition.

But it should be. My insurance is very good but doesn’t cove LASIK. So lasik is free markets driven and prices have declined substantially as more doctors offer the service and market forces naturally lowered prices. Need to get administrative agents out of there and just let doctors and patients determine costs.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Like what? I’m totally for cutting spending. Name 5 things that should be cut.
I have a good idea what you’ll list.
And it’s Trump 2020 Gold.
But go for it, give us a list of where to cut.

• Raise the retirement age for those under 40 to 70 and those under 30 to 72.
• Do a deep dive into Medicaid and cut all the fraud.
• Lower Federal jobs/comp. - Federal employees receive significantly higher total compensation than similar private-sector employees. I know many people who work at the EPA and other such locales and make well into six figures while sitting at home in their pajamas. Would never happen in a private company. Accountability matters.
• Federal Sales tax of 2% on all new goods until debt is paid down to $10Trn. Even income tax evaders such as drug dealers and welfare recipients would now pay taxes when they buy goods like sneakers, etc.
• ^^ Would lower interest expense significantly ^^

• On October 10, 2019, the Social Security Administration (SSA) announced that the 2020 Social Security wage base will be $137,700, which is an increase of $4,800 from $132,900 in 2019. There should be no wage base, high earners (professional athletes, movie stars, CEO's, Doctors, Lawyers, etc.) can well afford the hit.
• Agreed. Fraud is still a crime, and it is time to enforce the crime which is part of the PPACA, if a recall correctly
• Evidence. Speaking only for local government not all employees earn more than the private sector. And the vast majority are not managers or chiefs, they are clerks and secretaries, custodians/janitors and line staff
• A federal sales tax will impact the vast majority of workers, it is thus a regressive form of taxation. The more taken from The People, the less currency will circulate through the communities in which they reside. And, The Congress will have more money which will likely increase the logrolling among its members.
• Fiscal responsibility is not taking from Paul to Pay Peter.

No cap? Why? “They can afford to pay more” doesn’t mean they should.

"noblesse oblige" referred to the unwritten obligation of people from a noble ancestry to act honorably and generously to others.

Your argument maybe valid, but it is not pragmatic. The Plutocrats are not nobility, but they sure as hell act like they are.

I make significantly more than $137k. I do Not see myself as nobility. I would rather keep the $$ and give to charities of my choice like the ASPCA. Instead of those gaming the system.

I too have an annual income over the $137k mark, of course mine is in my retirement check. However, I do receive a SS Check too.