Should We Teach Creation As Science In Public Schools?

[james bond]

Where's your undeniable certainty?

No hominoid fossils with dinosaurs.

“Modern” Fossils with Dinosaurs | Genesis Park

Why Don’t We Find Human & Dinosaur Fossils Together?

Has to resort to memes. I'm still waiting for you to explain some anthro. Did you graduate HS? You definitely write like a moron with an IQ of 50 to 70, but I'm being generous.

The word dinosaur wasn't created then, so they had behemoths or sauropods and leviathans or plesiosaurs during Jesus' time.

Like I said, creation science has natural selection except it doesn't need billions of years. How can your dinosaur fossils be billions of years old when petrified trees run vertical to the layers they were found in? Why doesn't evos mention finding those in their layers? Why is it that we have the massive explosion of animals in the Cambrian period and no other time?

Let's look at the fossil record per the link progressive hunter provided from AIG:

"What Do We Find in the Fossil Record?
The first issue to consider is what we actually find in the fossil record.

• ~95% of all fossils are shallow marine organisms, such as corals and shellfish.
• ~95% of the remaining 5% are algae and plants.
• ~95% of the remaining 0.25% are invertebrates, including insects.
• The remaining 0.0125% are vertebrates, mostly fish. (95% of land vertebrates consist of less than one bone, and 95% of mammal fossils are from the Ice Age after the Flood.)1"

Most of it is marine organisms and evolution has no explanation for find marine fossils on top of Mt. Everest and in the Himalayas. They just make us fairy tales to explain the evidence. For example, the world's oldest whale fossil was found in the Himalayas. Evos said it walked up there haha, but no evidence of legs or feet. None of the other marine animals had feet either.

World's oldest whale is found in the Himalayas

Maybe you can use your anthro knowledge to explain why we have artists representations of dinosaurs throughout the world. How could they know what they looked like? Occam's Razor says they lived with them, saw them, and even fought with them.



We also were able to do radiocarbon dating on these dinosaur fossils and they were estimated around 40,000 years. The soft tissue remained in these fossils when they were supposedly millions of years old. Why do you not accept the evidence and go from there? Instead, you try to find fake reasons why they are billions of years old. Evolution needs long time and they just won't give up their lies and fairy tales. Haha, what a joke you are.

 

[Frannie]

Where's your undeniable certainty?

No hominoid fossils with dinosaurs.

“Modern” Fossils with Dinosaurs | Genesis Park

Why Don’t We Find Human & Dinosaur Fossils Together?

Has to resort to memes. I'm still waiting for you to explain some anthro. Did you graduate HS? You definitely write like a moron with an IQ of 50 to 70, but I'm being generous.

The word dinosaur wasn't created then, so they had behemoths or sauropods and leviathans or plesiosaurs during Jesus' time.

Like I said, creation science has natural selection except it doesn't need billions of years. How can your dinosaur fossils be billions of years old when petrified trees run vertical to the layers they were found in? Why doesn't evos mention finding those in their layers? Why is it that we have the massive explosion of animals in the Cambrian period and no other time?

Let's look at the fossil record per the link progressive hunter provided from AIG:

"What Do We Find in the Fossil Record?
The first issue to consider is what we actually find in the fossil record.

• ~95% of all fossils are shallow marine organisms, such as corals and shellfish.
• ~95% of the remaining 5% are algae and plants.
• ~95% of the remaining 0.25% are invertebrates, including insects.
• The remaining 0.0125% are vertebrates, mostly fish. (95% of land vertebrates consist of less than one bone, and 95% of mammal fossils are from the Ice Age after the Flood.)1"

Most of it is marine organisms and evolution has no explanation for find marine fossils on top of Mt. Everest and in the Himalayas. They just make us fairy tales to explain the evidence. For example, the world's oldest whale fossil was found in the Himalayas. Evos said it walked up there haha, but no evidence of legs or feet. None of the other marine animals had feet either.

World's oldest whale is found in the Himalayas

Maybe you can use your anthro knowledge to explain why we have artists representations of dinosaurs throughout the world. How could they know what they looked like? Occam's Razor says they lived with them, saw them, and even fought with them.

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We also were able to do radiocarbon dating on these dinosaur fossils and they were estimated around 40,000 years. The soft tissue remained in these fossils when they were supposedly millions of years old. Why do you not accept the evidence and go from there? Instead, you try to find fake reasons why they are billions of years old. Evolution needs long time and they just won't give up their lies and fairy tales. Haha, what a joke you are.

Only retards like you believe that there were dinosaurs in jesus lifetime

You however will never comprehend your level of mental disease

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[MisterBeale]

^^^ See video. If you are a Creationist, you are more likely to be either Hindu or Muslim. So, if you want to be in that company? Go ahead.

 

[bullwinkle]

Faith shouldn't be taught in schools. Period.

Yeah instead let's teach the kiddies all about, "climate changey" homos, transgenders, there are a gazzilion different genders etc, etc .....how's that working out? A generation of messed up indoctrinated loons are the result.

Give them options

But kids do have options, Ms Sassy. There's school and there's Sunday school...and schule...and madras...etc. If parents want specialized teaching they can always take the kids to church, temple, mosque....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Faith shouldn't be taught in schools. Period.

Yeah instead let's teach the kiddies all about, "climate changey" homos, transgenders, there are a gazzilion different genders etc, etc .....how's that working out? A generation of messed up indoctrinated loons are the result.

Give them options

But kids do have options, Ms Sassy. There's school and there's Sunday school...and schule...and madras...etc. If parents want specialized teaching they can always take the kids to church, temple, mosque....

Or schools can do what our children's do...teach both.

Of course leftists won't go for that it disrupts the indoctrination.

 

[bullwinkle]

Or schools can do what our children's do...teach both.

Of course leftists won't go for that it disrupts the indoctrination.

Both? What both? Evolution AND Christian/Jewish creation? Or Evolution AND Hindi? Or evolution AND Buddhism? Your added slander against what leftists will 'go for' is sheer partisanship slander just for the sake of making your own outlook seem moral. And it's hogwash!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Or schools can do what our children's do...teach both.

Of course leftists won't go for that it disrupts the indoctrination.

Both? What both? Evolution AND Christian/Jewish creation? Or Evolution AND Hindi? Or evolution AND Buddhism? Your added slander against what leftists will 'go for' is sheer partisanship slander just for the sake of making your own outlook seem moral. And it's hogwash!

Gfy Dullwinkle. How's that?

 

[bullwinkle]

Or schools can do what our children's do...teach both.

Of course leftists won't go for that it disrupts the indoctrination.

Both? What both? Evolution AND Christian/Jewish creation? Or Evolution AND Hindi? Or evolution AND Buddhism? Your added slander against what leftists will 'go for' is sheer partisanship slander just for the sake of making your own outlook seem moral. And it's hogwash!

Gfy Dullwinkle. How's that?

Crystal clear, Ms. Sassy!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

But left loons think this is just peachy for the tykes

Illinois Passes New Law Requiring LGBTQ Classes in Middle School

 

[progressive hunter]

I think that's two different questions, isn't it? Lucy is our ancestor. She didn't make little green apples, though. I'm confused.

there is no proof lucy is anything other than dead bones found in the ground

Lucy was just a small ape.

She walked upright, which apes don't, and we found 40% of her bones, which is a whole lot. The bigger brain that gives us the double sapiens in our name didn't come until later. But she was on her hind legs. That's big.

dead bones dont walk,,,the rest is just opinion


and didnt you say earlier this was no longer the view we came from primates???

Humans are primates. They are now considered, taxonomically speaking, just another great ape, like a chimp or a gorilla.

Hominidae - Wikipedia

wiki is not a good source,,,

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If you want your kid to 'get religion' take him/her to church....~S~

That’s not the point.

The point is conservatives want every child to be compelled to ‘get religion.’

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Creation science is backed by the scientific method, so it should be taught in schools. Part of the problem is science today only accepts what is natural in the physical world. It is based on the philosophy of empiricism, but today's science does not follow it nor is it backed by the scientific method. What today's science of evolution is backed by is consensus and circumstantial forensic evidence. Why only evolution is taught in schools is because today's science does not allow for a supernatural creator to be involved in the "creation" of the universe, Earth, and everything in it. This is not science when evidence can be provided for the supernatural in creation through the Bible. It is part of Genesis and how God created the natural world. The assumption that there was no supernatural occurrence during the beginning is unscientific. One of the most basic arguments for a creator is the universe began to exist, not an eternal universe, and we have Kalam's Cosmological argument.

Furthermore, we are here -- the universe and everything in it exists! Now, if evolution and its big bang could explain in detail of how the electromagnetic spectrum, the Higgs field, the cosmic microwave background, and how amino acids formed into proteins in outer space from nothing or invisible quantum particles, then they would have a better explanation and argument with big bang. We need to have the theory fit the evidence instead of the evidence made to fit the theory. Science should not just be based on empiricism, but also on a priori reasoning in addition to the scientific a posteriori reasoning. This is all part of epistemology. We need to use facts, reasoning, and historical truths in science since not everything can be proven by scientific method.

I've read Dr. John Morris' explanation for a creator -- Should the Public Schools Teach Creation? -- and today we have a more updated version from Lee Strobel -- Strong case, but flawed by compromise (Review of Lee Strobel, Case for Creator) - creation.com. creation.com gives a brief overview without reading his book. Sorry, I haven't read his book, but have watched the video below.

No, it shouldn't, because to do so would violate the First Amendment (Edwards v. Aguillard).

Creationism is religion, devoid of fact and merit.

Not the first two books of Genesis. You didn't watch the vid either.

It is neither the truth nor is it supported by science.

That's just your assertion and nothing in science backs it. So far, your posts are meaningless.

That most conservatives have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law comes as no surprise, of course.

And that conservatives would continue to advocate for something already ruled to be un-Constitutional is further confirmation of that fact.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Creation science is backed by the scientific method, so it should be taught in schools. Part of the problem is science today only accepts what is natural in the physical world. It is based on the philosophy of empiricism, but today's science does not follow it nor is it backed by the scientific method. What today's science of evolution is backed by is consensus and circumstantial forensic evidence. Why only evolution is taught in schools is because today's science does not allow for a supernatural creator to be involved in the "creation" of the universe, Earth, and everything in it. This is not science when evidence can be provided for the supernatural in creation through the Bible. It is part of Genesis and how God created the natural world. The assumption that there was no supernatural occurrence during the beginning is unscientific. One of the most basic arguments for a creator is the universe began to exist, not an eternal universe, and we have Kalam's Cosmological argument.

Furthermore, we are here -- the universe and everything in it exists! Now, if evolution and its big bang could explain in detail of how the electromagnetic spectrum, the Higgs field, the cosmic microwave background, and how amino acids formed into proteins in outer space from nothing or invisible quantum particles, then they would have a better explanation and argument with big bang. We need to have the theory fit the evidence instead of the evidence made to fit the theory. Science should not just be based on empiricism, but also on a priori reasoning in addition to the scientific a posteriori reasoning. This is all part of epistemology. We need to use facts, reasoning, and historical truths in science since not everything can be proven by scientific method.

I've read Dr. John Morris' explanation for a creator -- Should the Public Schools Teach Creation? -- and today we have a more updated version from Lee Strobel -- Strong case, but flawed by compromise (Review of Lee Strobel, Case for Creator) - creation.com. creation.com gives a brief overview without reading his book. Sorry, I haven't read his book, but have watched the video below.

No, it shouldn't, because to do so would violate the First Amendment (Edwards v. Aguillard).

Creationism is religion, devoid of fact and merit.

Not the first two books of Genesis. You didn't watch the vid either.

It is neither the truth nor is it supported by science.

That's just your assertion and nothing in science backs it. So far, your posts are meaningless.

That most conservatives have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law comes as no surprise, of course.

And that conservatives would continue to advocate for something already ruled to be un-Constitutional is further confirmation of that fact.

 

[dblack]

You should be able to teach whatever you want.

This is why government shouldn't be in charge of education.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Faith shouldn't be taught in schools. Period.

Yeah instead let's teach the kiddies all about, "climate changey" homos, transgenders, there are a gazzilion different genders etc, etc .....how's that working out? A generation of messed up indoctrinated loons are the result.

Give them options

But kids do have options, Ms Sassy. There's school and there's Sunday school...and schule...and madras...etc. If parents want specialized teaching they can always take the kids to church, temple, mosque....

‘Creationism’ is a façade behind which the religious right has attempted to insert religious dogma into public schools, the consequence of conservatives’ unwarranted hostility toward Establishment Clause jurisprudence and the Framers’ mandate that church and state remain separate.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Faith shouldn't be taught in schools. Period.

Yeah instead let's teach the kiddies all about, "climate changey" homos, transgenders, there are a gazzilion different genders etc, etc .....how's that working out? A generation of messed up indoctrinated loons are the result.

Give them options

But kids do have options, Ms Sassy. There's school and there's Sunday school...and schule...and madras...etc. If parents want specialized teaching they can always take the kids to church, temple, mosque....

‘Creationism’ is a façade behind which the religious right has attempted to insert religious dogma into public schools, the consequence of conservatives’ unwarranted hostility toward Establishment Clause jurisprudence and the Framers’ mandate that church and state remain separate.

You're annoying, Jones.

 

[progressive hunter]

Faith shouldn't be taught in schools. Period.

Yeah instead let's teach the kiddies all about, "climate changey" homos, transgenders, there are a gazzilion different genders etc, etc .....how's that working out? A generation of messed up indoctrinated loons are the result.

Give them options

But kids do have options, Ms Sassy. There's school and there's Sunday school...and schule...and madras...etc. If parents want specialized teaching they can always take the kids to church, temple, mosque....

‘Creationism’ is a façade behind which the religious right has attempted to insert religious dogma into public schools, the consequence of conservatives’ unwarranted hostility toward Establishment Clause jurisprudence and the Framers’ mandate that church and state remain separate.

LIAR!!

 

[OldLady]

You should be able to teach whatever you want.

This is why government shouldn't be in charge of education.

Local and then state government has ALWAYS been in charge of what is taught. How the feds got involved was special ed requirements, which no school wanted to pay for. The federal government only contributes about 10% of a school's funding, but budgets are so tight that schools need every penny of it. If the feds aren't paying it, your taxes will go up to make up the difference, or your schools will close.

 

[dblack]

You should be able to teach whatever you want.

This is why government shouldn't be in charge of education.

Local and then state government has ALWAYS been in charge of what is taught.

Yep. I'm saying that was/is a mistake.

How the feds got involved was special ed requirements, which no school wanted to pay for. The federal government only contributes about 10% of a school's funding, but budgets are so tight that schools need every penny of it. If the feds aren't paying it, your taxes will go up to make up the difference, or your schools will close.

And that was an even bigger mistake.