Shut up Romney!

[Campbell]

Holy shit. Campbell upchucked his 'blame the debt on the ebil Wepubwicans list' again like a hairball. I wonder if he even knows he's posted it before?

Who gives a phuck? Most of the right wing folks who post here can't remember from one day to the next what they have read or posted.

 

[Desperado]

What the hell is the looser running his mouth for? I went door to door for this guy and he failed to get people out to the polls and lost to Obama. Who's going listen to this guy really? I'm a Cruz guy but think Romney should STFU about Trump

Because Trump is dogshit and his followers are dumber than dogshit. Someone has to tell them.

Trump represents change - good or bad but change from the same old same old.
The only people that are dumber than dog shit are the ones that are backing any of the tradition party approved candidates.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Slight correction: Bain Capital had a bankruptcy rate of 22% when Romney was involved with it. Bain started/took over 77 companies. That would mean about 16 of them went bankrupt. Trump has only had 4 companies go bankrupt.

 

[kaz]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Bain Capital never went bankrupt

 

[mikegriffith1]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Bain Capital never went bankrupt

22 percent of the companies that Bain Capital started or took over went bankrupt. Bain itself never went bankrupt, but a number of the companies that it managed did. This is a matter of record.

Similarly, Trump Corporation has never gone bankrupt, but four of the companies that Trump Corporation managed have gone bankrupt. Overall, Trump has an excellent business record.

 

[kaz]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Slight correction: Bain Capital had a bankruptcy rate of 22% when Romney was involved with it. Bain started/took over 77 companies. That would mean about 16 of them went bankrupt. Trump has only had 4 companies go bankrupt.

Exactly, the idiocy of your statement. Trump's owned company went bankrupt four times.

You compare that to Romney running a business that worked with companies who were already on the path to bankruptcy and saved some not others.

Your argument is as stupid as blaming a doctor who prevents suicides for anyone he treated who eventually committed suicides anyway. It's a stupid argument

 

[kaz]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Bain Capital never went bankrupt

22 percent of the companies that Bain Capital started or took over went bankrupt. Bain itself never went bankrupt, but a number of the companies that it managed did. This is a matter of record.

Similarly, Trump Corporation has never gone bankrupt, but four of the companies that Trump Corporation managed have gone bankrupt. Overall, Trump has an excellent business record.

So when an oncologist's patient dies of cancer, it's their fault. Gotcha.

Again, do you know what Bain Capital does? They don't work with healthy companies

 

[kaz]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Slight correction: Bain Capital had a bankruptcy rate of 22% when Romney was involved with it. Bain started/took over 77 companies. That would mean about 16 of them went bankrupt. Trump has only had 4 companies go bankrupt.

Romney saved 78% of companies headed towards bankruptcy that he took over. That's an amazing record

 

[mikegriffith1]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Slight correction: Bain Capital had a bankruptcy rate of 22% when Romney was involved with it. Bain started/took over 77 companies. That would mean about 16 of them went bankrupt. Trump has only had 4 companies go bankrupt.

Exactly, the idiocy of your statement. Trump's owned company went bankrupt four times.

You compare that to Romney running a business that worked with companies who were already on the path to bankruptcy and saved some not others.

Your argument is as stupid as blaming a doctor who prevents suicides for anyone he treated who eventually committed suicides anyway. It's a stupid argument

And you ignore the fact that Trump's four bankruptcies were in Atlantic City and occurred at a time when many other casino-related companies went bankrupt as well.

And Bain did not always acquire failing companies. So that dog won't hunt.

If Trump had done what Romney did, I suspect you would fault him for making the bad decision to take over so many companies that were beyond recovery.

 

[kaz]

Romney's attacks are very ironic, and hypocritical. For example, Romney attacked Trump over Trump's four bankruptcies, but Romney had 22 bankruptcies. He attacked Trump over inheriting wealth, but Romney received a large inheritance from his father (the late Gov. George Romney).

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Slight correction: Bain Capital had a bankruptcy rate of 22% when Romney was involved with it. Bain started/took over 77 companies. That would mean about 16 of them went bankrupt. Trump has only had 4 companies go bankrupt.

Exactly, the idiocy of your statement. Trump's owned company went bankrupt four times.

You compare that to Romney running a business that worked with companies who were already on the path to bankruptcy and saved some not others.

Your argument is as stupid as blaming a doctor who prevents suicides for anyone he treated who eventually committed suicides anyway. It's a stupid argument

And you ignore the fact that Trump's four bankruptcies were in Atlantic City and occurred at a time when many other casino-related companies went bankrupt as well.

I neither criticized nor defended his bankruptcies. I said your argument against Romney was dumb

And Bain did not always acquire failing companies. So that dog won't hunt.

They were all in financial distress or underperforming. That's the business Cain was in. And they saved 78% of them

If Trump had done what Romney did, I suspect you would fault him for making the bad decision to take over so many companies that were beyond recovery.

Why would I do that now? Find anywhere in this discussion I criticized Trump for the four bankruptcies. I said your comparing that to Romney who's business was targeting companies in financial distress is inane.

I think the whole bankruptcy thing is ridiculous. I don't like Trump, but that has nothing to do with why and nothing I've heard criticizing him for those has had any point I've heard

 

[mikegriffith1]

22 bankruptcies? That's impossible, what are you smoking?

It's a matter of record. You understand that we're talking about business bankruptcies, not personal ones, right? Bain Capital had 22 bankruptcies.

Slight correction: Bain Capital had a bankruptcy rate of 22% when Romney was involved with it. Bain started/took over 77 companies. That would mean about 16 of them went bankrupt. Trump has only had 4 companies go bankrupt.

Exactly, the idiocy of your statement. Trump's owned company went bankrupt four times.

You compare that to Romney running a business that worked with companies who were already on the path to bankruptcy and saved some not others.

Your argument is as stupid as blaming a doctor who prevents suicides for anyone he treated who eventually committed suicides anyway. It's a stupid argument

And you ignore the fact that Trump's four bankruptcies were in Atlantic City and occurred at a time when many other casino-related companies went bankrupt as well.

I neither criticized nor defended his bankruptcies. I said your argument against Romney was dumb

And Bain did not always acquire failing companies. So that dog won't hunt.

They were all in financial distress or underperforming. That's the business Cain was in. And they saved 78% of them

If Trump had done what Romney did, I suspect you would fault him for making the bad decision to take over so many companies that were beyond recovery.

Why would I do that now? Find anywhere in this discussion I criticized Trump for the four bankruptcies. I said your comparing that to Romney who's business was targeting companies in financial distress is inane.

I think the whole bankruptcy thing is ridiculous. I don't like Trump, but that has nothing to do with why and nothing I've heard criticizing him for those has had any point I've heard

It's not "inane" or "ridiculous" to note that Romney attacked Trump for 4 bankruptcies when Romney presided over 16 bankruptcies while at Bain Capital.

You avoided the point that one could make the logical argument that Romney made bad decisions when he agreed to take over companies that were beyond repair. One could quite rationally say that a smarter businessman would have stayed away from those companies in the first place. One could further note that a 22% bankruptcy rate is hardly a sterling record, no matter what excuses you want to float for it.

And, by the way, in 2012 Romney described Trump as a great businessman who had shown an extraordinary understanding of the economy:

 

[Seawytch]

You are as partisan as I am, you just can't admit it to yourself

Just curious on this one. So I voted Republican once the last six elections and I voted for non Republicans (Perot, Browne, Browne, Badarnak, Nader) the other five.

You voted for anyone but the Democrat how many times in the last six elections? I lied, I'm not curious, we both know the answer to that one...

You voted for Republicans or Libertarians...who aren't much different than Republicans except they lose more elections. I'm not impressed by your "non partisan" creds. You're a self loathing partisan hack. I readily admit I'm partisan (who has actually voted for Republicans in local elections...but then again I get to know them on a personal level)

 

[basquebromance]

TRUMP TOWERS OVER EVERYONE! TRUMP TOWERS OVER EVERYONE! TRUMP TOWERS OVER EVERYONE!

 

[Valerie]

Hillary does not support legalization of marijuana, Bernie does

fyi hillary has changed her tune on that...




Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's proposal this month to loosen restrictions on marijuana and spur more research into the drug’s medicinal benefits wasn't especially surprising or daring, given 58 percent of Americans support legalizing it. But it begs the question of whether voters take into account a candidate’s stance on marijuana before heading to the polls.

Hillary Clinton's Pot Proposal Is Popular


Twenty-three states and the District of Columbia have legalized medical pot, while recreational marijuana is legal in four states, plus D.C. Clinton has said more research needs to be done to determine how best to help those who use marijuana for medicinal purposes.

"Because it's considered what's called a Schedule I drug and you can't even do research in it," she said. (Clinton said marijuana should be downgraded to Schedule II) "If we're going to have a lot of states setting up marijuana dispensaries so that people who have some kind of medical need are getting marijuana, we need know what's the quality of it, how much should you take, what should you avoid if you're taking other medications."

Clinton has also embraced the criminal justice aspect to the issue, saying "We have got to stop imprisoning people who use marijuana.”

 

[Seawytch]

Hillary does not support legalization of marijuana, Bernie does

fyi hillary has changed her tune on that...




Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's proposal this month to loosen restrictions on marijuana and spur more research into the drug’s medicinal benefits wasn't especially surprising or daring, given 58 percent of Americans support legalizing it. But it begs the question of whether voters take into account a candidate’s stance on marijuana before heading to the polls.

Hillary Clinton's Pot Proposal Is Popular


Twenty-three states and the District of Columbia have legalized medical pot, while recreational marijuana is legal in four states, plus D.C. Clinton has said more research needs to be done to determine how best to help those who use marijuana for medicinal purposes.

"Because it's considered what's called a Schedule I drug and you can't even do research in it," she said. "If we're going to have a lot of states setting up marijuana dispensaries so that people who have some kind of medical need are getting marijuana, we need know what's the quality of it, how much should you take, what should you avoid if you're taking other medications."

Clinton has also embraced the criminal justice aspect to the issue, saying "We have got to stop imprisoning people who use marijuana.”

Her stance is still different than Bernie's. She does not support legalization.

 

[Valerie]

depends what the meaning of "legalization" is

but she's certainly not looking to hassle anyone over benign usage...

 

[Seawytch]

depends what the meaning of "legalization" is

but she's certainly not looking to hassle anyone over benign usage...

She and Bernie have different views on the subject. He supports legalization while she only supports lowering its classification.

 

[Jolteon]

I respect all believes. My opinion however is that Bernie sanders is the best candidate. I even wrote a song about it! Check it out!

 

[Valerie]

depends what the meaning of "legalization" is

but she's certainly not looking to hassle anyone over benign usage...

She and Bernie have different views on the subject. He supports legalization while she only supports lowering its classification.

yeah, birkenstock bernie has a demographic to pander to...

hillary's thoughtful position accepts legalization and goes further into decriminalization as well.