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This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
Partisan politics. Yuck.
Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.
What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
Prove it, asshole.Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
AM I THE ONLY ONE who has noticed the ring around Chrissy's throat?
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What is that?
I want this to end up with Brett on the Supreme Court, Feinstein impeached and Chrissy Ford counter-sued for one million dollars.
- Residual marks left from her B&D sex collar removed for the hearing?
- Deliberately put there to subliminally make her appear more the "victim?"
- Leftover choke marks from her husband after pleading with the psycho liberal bitch not to go through with this crap failed?
She looks way older than 51.
My how catty and trollish of you.
Have anything relevant to say besides shallow criticism of her looks?
What would you look like on live camera under the klieg lights?
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ROFL! You brain damaged turds make the most ridiculous assumptions based on virtually no evidence. Has he ever been pulled over for a DUI? Has anyone accused him of excessive drinking in the last 30 years? Do you have anything in your quiver other than pure character assassination?I don’t think he’s a serial sexual abuser or anything like that (although he has been proven to be a serial liar). I think he was a privileged rich kid asshole who acts like a lot of privileged rich kid assholes: like he can do whatever he wants without any real, lasting consequences.Showing off. Being an asshole. I don't know about you, but I saw stuff not terribly unlike this, and varying degrees of this shit happens every weekend on college campuses.I can sure as hell picture a situation in which a drunk guy forces himself on a woman without actually intending to rape her. For him it's, maybe, aggressive, drunk, manly playfulness. For her, it's a fuckin' attack.There's a fine line here, and I'm just trying to drill down a bit on it. Maybe a good term would be "perceived intent". I'm not trying to discount her story as much as I am theorizing a situation in which she reasonably perceived herself to be in grave danger when she in fact was not.I agree with the fundamental premise that Kavvy's behavior was partially inspired by juvenile recklessness. But your hypothesis is almost entirely a series of alleged events. There is no substantive link between the particulars that Ford has alleged and the particulars you are suggesting as an alternative, and no basis to invent these alternate allegations.
I see no reason to discount the fundamental story that Ford has told. I don't believe she is lying when she says she was pushed into the room by Judge, nor when she says that Kavvy covered her mouth to suppress her screams. Believing your suggestions requires that we either believe Ford is lying, or that her mind invented those things over time. Neither one is a justifiable hypothesis. And, incidentally, ends up essentially being the same tired "She's crazy, she's confused" excuses that have historically been used to marginalize women when they bring sexual assaults to light.
I can sure as hell picture a situation in which a drunk guy forces himself on a woman without actually intending to rape her. For him it's, maybe, aggressive, drunk, manly playfulness. For her, it's a fuckin' attack.
Such theorizing is dangerous on a highly partisan message board, granted, but what the hell.
And then, I think it's fair to question whether something that happened that long ago applies today. If my little story is close to being right, then I'd think he was being dishonest in his testimony, and that's that.
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Manly playfulness? Forces himself on a woman without actually intending to rape her? What IS he doing, then, Mac?
I'm not condoning or pardoning it. I have two daughters. I just don't see life as a simple, binary, either/or thing. That's just not the way my little brain works.
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I think even more obviously, he's a serial drunk.
Prove it, asshole.
AM I THE ONLY ONE who has noticed the ring around Chrissy's throat?
View attachment 219298
What is that?
I want this to end up with Brett on the Supreme Court, Feinstein impeached and Chrissy Ford counter-sued for one million dollars.
- Residual marks left from her B&D sex collar removed for the hearing?
- Deliberately put there to subliminally make her appear more the "victim?"
- Leftover choke marks from her husband after pleading with the psycho liberal bitch not to go through with this crap failed?
She looks way older than 51.
My how catty and trollish of you.
Have anything relevant to say besides shallow criticism of her looks?
What would you look like on live camera under the klieg lights?
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Just stating the facts. Most 51 year olds are not wrinkled like her.
And as I am blessed with my mother's lovely skin, I'll not age like Ford...but you'll have to take my word for it as I never post selfies on the interwebs.
She had said in her initial testimony that she spent her summers in the swimming pool and practicing her diving.
She's had too much sun exposure over the years.
And I have no desire to see your bi-assed face, either.
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This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
Partisan politics. Yuck.
Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.
What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.
She did it because she knew Ford's story was horseshit.You know how you keep something "confidential?" You don't tell anyone about it. The last thing you do is tell a politician who has a strong motive to make it public. Anyone who believes this story has "gullible" tattooed on his forehead.Blasey Ford has a great life in Palo Alto, CA.
Four degrees: BA, two Masters and a PhD.
Kids and a great career.
She was hoping her letter to Feinstein would stay confidential.
It didn't.
So she rose to the occasion of her accusations and showed bigger stones that Kavanaughty has ever had in his entire, alcohol-soaked, gambling-indebted life.
'I find it very hard to imagine that he never blacked out': Registered Republican Yale classmate speaks out to detail how Brett Kavanaugh DID repeatedly drink in excess
Republican Yale classmate speaks out to detail how Brett Kavanaugh DID repeatedly drink to excess | Daily Mail Online
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Then why did Feinstein sit on the letter for almost two months?
So she and the other Dems could fight a losing battle at the last minute against the Repubes in committee?
No, if it was as you say, she would have come out in mid July with the letter and immediately asked for a probe into the allegations BEFORE the confirmation hearing.
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Where did the $750,000 come from, Ma and Pa Kettle?Ford has gained $750,000, moron. And don't think that was all from small donors. It's Soros money.
LOL! I keep hearing that bullshit.
Soros is the go-to guy whenever the Repubes take a a hit.
Would you like to post a link providing the source of this conspiracy?
I'll be waiting.
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Ford's skin is just a physical fact. She looks older than 51 and likely knows it.AM I THE ONLY ONE who has noticed the ring around Chrissy's throat?
View attachment 219298
What is that?
I want this to end up with Brett on the Supreme Court, Feinstein impeached and Chrissy Ford counter-sued for one million dollars.
- Residual marks left from her B&D sex collar removed for the hearing?
- Deliberately put there to subliminally make her appear more the "victim?"
- Leftover choke marks from her husband after pleading with the psycho liberal bitch not to go through with this crap failed?
She looks way older than 51.
In that picture she look more like 81
She has bad skin - the kind that wrinkles and and pits quickly with age. I wonder if some of her emotional instability is due to untreated early onset menopause. That would explain a lot.
Whereas BK's endless references to "beer" (he likes beer, did you know?) and "skis" and puking etc etc etc ---- would not. Funny how that works
This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
Partisan politics. Yuck.
Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.
What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.
NNnnnnope.
>> (BOSTON) — Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has repeatedly said that he was legally allowed to consume beer as a prep school senior in Maryland. In fact, he was never legal in high school because the state’s drinking age increased to 21 at the end of his junior year, while he was still 17.
Kavanaugh’s drinking has come under intense scrutiny after California professor Christine Blasey Ford alleged that a heavily intoxicated Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her while they were both teenagers at a Maryland house party during the summer of 1982.
The legal age in that state was raised to 21 on July 1, 1982; Kavanaugh did not turn 18 until Feb. 12, 1983. << --- Linkie
The point there was, I haven't heard anyone in the "Dems" quoted in the post, even bring that up.
maybe young girls should not be free to be unattended or should always be chaperoned by their husbands or Fathers , Uncles , Brothers Mac .Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.
I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.
Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.
Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.
My two cents. Yours?
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I think you are looking at this from the perspective of an old geezer who has no fucking clue about what it's like to be a 15 year old girl who has two boys cornering her, jumping her, covering her mouth, pulling on her clothes, feeling her up and turning up the music so no one would hear her scream.
Not a fucking iota of empathy in your post.
It's attitudes like yours that make women yell at senators in elevators.
It's comments like yours that has spurred the #MeToo movement to a noise level in November that will be so high even old farts like you will be able to hear it.
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Then we've heard vastly different things.This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
Partisan politics. Yuck.
Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.
What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
I'm sure yours is the correct perception.
This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
Partisan politics. Yuck.
Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.
What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.
----------------------------------------------- she is UGLY and only early 50s i think . Course , i am happy to see it .Prove it, asshole.Maybe
But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun
He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
AM I THE ONLY ONE who has noticed the ring around Chrissy's throat?
View attachment 219298
What is that?
I want this to end up with Brett on the Supreme Court, Feinstein impeached and Chrissy Ford counter-sued for one million dollars.
- Residual marks left from her B&D sex collar removed for the hearing?
- Deliberately put there to subliminally make her appear more the "victim?"
- Leftover choke marks from her husband after pleading with the psycho liberal bitch not to go through with this crap failed?
She looks way older than 51.
My how catty and trollish of you.
Have anything relevant to say besides shallow criticism of her looks?
What would you look like on live camera under the klieg lights?
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This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
Partisan politics. Yuck.
Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.
What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.
NNnnnnope.
>> (BOSTON) — Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has repeatedly said that he was legally allowed to consume beer as a prep school senior in Maryland. In fact, he was never legal in high school because the state’s drinking age increased to 21 at the end of his junior year, while he was still 17.
Kavanaugh’s drinking has come under intense scrutiny after California professor Christine Blasey Ford alleged that a heavily intoxicated Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her while they were both teenagers at a Maryland house party during the summer of 1982.
The legal age in that state was raised to 21 on July 1, 1982; Kavanaugh did not turn 18 until Feb. 12, 1983. << --- Linkie
The point there was, I haven't heard anyone in the "Dems" quoted in the post, even bring that up.
I can see where it was confusing as some teenagers were grandfathered in and could still drink at 18. In any case, I don't care if teenagers drank some beer. I drank beer when I was a teenager. I never blacked out, or puked, or raped anyone.
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Grandfathered Teen-agers
This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
Partisan politics. Yuck.
Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.
What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.
No, it's not.
Many of Kavanaugh's Yale classmates are speaking out about his drinking.
Put this in your pie hole and light it up:
Kavanaugh's college friends say he lied under oath about drinking
https://www.msnbc.com/.../kavanaugh-s-college-friends-say-he-lied-under-oath-about-d...
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Kavanaugh dodges repeated questions about his drinking habits ...
https://www.businessinsider.com/kavanaugh-dodges-repeated-questions-about-his-dri...
2 days ago - The Times said a group of Kavanaugh's Yale classmates also recalled that he once got so ... Klobuchar replied, "I have no drinking problem.".
Kavanaugh's 'choir boy' image on Fox interview rankles former Yale ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../ea5e50d4-c0eb-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.ht...
4 days ago - Some took issue with the Supreme Court nominee's description of his ... But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale ...
The Impunity of Brett Kavanaugh's Binge Drinking - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/...kavanaughs...drinking/571435/
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Brett Kavanaugh: Former Yale classmates speak out after 'choir boy ...
https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas
2 days ago - Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said in a nationally televised interview that in ... But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale University classmates, ... “There was drinking, and there was alcohol.
She can’t prove Kav was even present at a party with her.Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.
I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.
Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.
Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.
My two cents. Yours?
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