So here's what I think happened between Kavanaugh & Ford

This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.

Partisan politics. Yuck.

Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.

What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.


The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.

NNnnnnope.

>> (BOSTON) — Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has repeatedly said that he was legally allowed to consume beer as a prep school senior in Maryland. In fact, he was never legal in high school because the state’s drinking age increased to 21 at the end of his junior year, while he was still 17.

Kavanaugh’s drinking has come under intense scrutiny after California professor Christine Blasey Ford alleged that a heavily intoxicated Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her while they were both teenagers at a Maryland house party during the summer of 1982.

The legal age in that state was raised to 21 on July 1, 1982; Kavanaugh did not turn 18 until Feb. 12, 1983. << --- Linkie

The point there was, I haven't heard anyone in the "Dems" quoted in the post, even bring that up.


I can see where it was confusing as some teenagers were grandfathered in and could still drink at 18. In any case, I don't care if teenagers drank some beer. I drank beer when I was a teenager. I never blacked out, or puked, or raped anyone.
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Grandfathered Teen-agers

Yeah don't think so. Cool tactic, linking a page that requires a subscription.


It's from WAPO. I don't have a subscription to WAPO - I just clicked on the footnote on Wikipedia. Here try it for yourself. Footnote 45 for Maryland 1982.

U.S. history of alcohol minimum purchase age by state - Wikipedia
 
Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.

Partisan politics. Yuck.

Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.

What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
At that time the drinking age was 18. Are you going to tell us you never took a drink before you were of legal age? It's unbelievable what astounding hypocrites all you Trump hating snowflakes are.
 
Can anyone explain the jump from "drinking a beer" to "being a rapist"?

That's a question for Lindsey Graham. He's been noting that a serial sexual predator doesn't stop once he gets away with it.

That's true but the incident in question is less about sexual predation and more about drunkenness. And that definitely did continue, by his own account.
 
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.

I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.

Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.

Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.

My two cents. Yours?
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There's no proof he was even at the party or that he was aggressive towards women so I dunno why you assume he even touched her.
 
Can anyone explain the jump from "drinking a beer" to "being a rapist"?

Easy peasy lemon squeezy:

SJW Snowflake says "Because Reasons, FEELZ and Just Shut Up."
 
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Can anyone explain the jump from "drinking a beer" to "being a rapist"?

That's a question for Lindsey Graham. He's been noting that a serial sexual predator doesn't stop once he gets away with it.

That's true but the incident in question is less about sexual predation and more about drunkenness. And that definitely did continue, by his own account.

Two people getting drunk and doing stupid shit is not assault you moron. If that's what happened she just made a false accusation and needs to be put behind bars.

Personally I am quite certain these people have never been in sexual contact. But in any case there is no proof so you need to shut up.
 
Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.

Partisan politics. Yuck.

Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.

What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.
At that time the drinking age was 18. Are you going to tell us you never took a drink before you were of legal age? It's unbelievable what astounding hypocrites all you Trump hating snowflakes are.

Of course I did. But the question is not whether I took a drink --- it's about whether the "Dems" referenced by Mac were making a big deal out of a kid drinking while in high school. I stated that I had not heard anyone make that point, Mac stated nothing to the contrary.

That'll be five cents for invocation of Pogo's Law.

And just to bust your weasel wording here, yes at the time (1982) the drinking age was 18 --- and Kavanaugh was 17. Actually--- irony of ironies --- it was raised from 18 to 21 on July 1st.... the exact same date that Kavanaugh listed "skis" with "PJ" and Judge in the event that closely fits Ford's description.

Either way........ neither 18 nor 21 is 17.
 
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Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.

I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.

Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.

Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.

My two cents. Yours?
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There's no proof he was even at the party or that he was aggressive towards women so I dunno why you assume he even touched her.
All I have is a guess. I don't claim to know.
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Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.

Partisan politics. Yuck.

Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.

What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.


The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.

NNnnnnope.

>> (BOSTON) — Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has repeatedly said that he was legally allowed to consume beer as a prep school senior in Maryland. In fact, he was never legal in high school because the state’s drinking age increased to 21 at the end of his junior year, while he was still 17.

Kavanaugh’s drinking has come under intense scrutiny after California professor Christine Blasey Ford alleged that a heavily intoxicated Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her while they were both teenagers at a Maryland house party during the summer of 1982.

The legal age in that state was raised to 21 on July 1, 1982; Kavanaugh did not turn 18 until Feb. 12, 1983. << --- Linkie

The point there was, I haven't heard anyone in the "Dems" quoted in the post, even bring that up. Clearly they could have; they didn't.

The "fiction" about puking and passing out comes from Kavanaugh's own calendar and the recollections of his peers. If it be 'fiction' perhaps he should be railing against them.
No, he hasn't repeatedly said that. I can't find any instance of him ever saying that. If you believe he has, then quote it. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.
 
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.

I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.

Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.

Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.

My two cents. Yours?
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Here is what I think happened between them.














Did you get all that? Her accusation is a work of fiction.
 
Indeed. Liking beer is not the same as being a rapist. And teenage immaturity is a thing in the distant past for healthy adults.
This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.

Partisan politics. Yuck.

Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.

What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.


The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.


No, it's not.
Many of Kavanaugh's Yale classmates are speaking out about his drinking.

Put this in your pie hole and light it up:


Kavanaugh's college friends say he lied under oath about drinking

https://www.msnbc.com/.../kavanaugh-s-college-friends-say-he-lied-under-oath-about-d...
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Two friends of Brett Kavanaugh's from Yale University say he was not being honest when he testified about ...

Kavanaugh dodges repeated questions about his drinking habits ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/kavanaugh-dodges-repeated-questions-about-his-dri...

2 days ago - The Times said a group of Kavanaugh's Yale classmates also recalled that he once got so ... Klobuchar replied, "I have no drinking problem.".
Kavanaugh's 'choir boy' image on Fox interview rankles former Yale ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../ea5e50d4-c0eb-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.ht...

4 days ago - Some took issue with the Supreme Court nominee's description of his ... But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale ...
The Impunity of Brett Kavanaugh's Binge Drinking - The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/...kavanaughs...drinking/571435/

1 day ago - Klobuchar: “I have no drinking problem, judge.” ... He'd talk about getting into Yale, and then into Yale Law, which, he would like to remind ...
Brett Kavanaugh: Former Yale classmates speak out after 'choir boy ...

https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas

2 days ago - Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said in a nationally televised interview that in ... But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale University classmates, ... “There was drinking, and there was alcohol.


My, how charming you are.

I bet your high school classmates before you dropped out of school have lovely things to say about your vulgar, drug addled antics.


Losers attack the messenger when they can't attack the message.
You keep shoveling the shit. I'll keep posting the facts. M'kay?
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Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.

I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.

Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.

Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.

My two cents. Yours?
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I think you are looking at this from the perspective of an old geezer who has no fucking clue about what it's like to be a 15 year old girl who has two boys cornering her, jumping her, covering her mouth, pulling on her clothes, feeling her up and turning up the music so no one would hear her scream.

Not a fucking iota of empathy in your post.

It's attitudes like yours that make women yell at senators in elevators.

It's comments like yours that has spurred the #MeToo movement to a noise level in November that will be so high even old farts like you will be able to hear it.
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maybe young girls should not be free to be unattended or should always be chaperoned by their husbands or Fathers , Uncles , Brothers Mac .
Yeah, and they should wear a garment that covers their entire body and their face so boys won't get overly excited.
 
Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.

I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.

Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.

Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.

My two cents. Yours?
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He got her into a room on false pretenses and turned up the radio so nobody could hear her. It ain't like he got handsy on the dance floor. Which is bad enough in itself.
So you were there?
Why haven’t you come forward already?
 
Oh, and all of this Neo-Puritianical Cary Nation acting by the Dems is just proving that Conservatives are starting to win the cultural wars.

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Having spent four fairly boozy years in college, having been to my share of college parties, and just having a fundamental understanding of that environment, here's what I think happened.

I think he was drunk and he dry humped her for "fun". Stupid, sophomoric, thoughtless, "fun". The mix of booze, testosterone and adrenaline can make a young guy do some pretty stupid shit, and you can DOUBLE that when a buddy is there. He and his buddy laughed about it, and maybe she hid her horror by not acting like she had been attacked. Ask them about it a week later, and they may or may not have remembered it.

Different people (men and women) are sensitive to entirely different things. Clearly this really, profoundly hurt Ford, even though he was clowning around. It wasn't a rape, it wasn't an attempted rape, it was a short, stupid, ignorant act by a drunk kid who was showing off and should have fucking known better. Some women would have laughed it off, some would not, and there is no right or wrong response to it.

Should that disqualify any candidate, three decades later, nominated by a President from either party, for the Supreme Court? Not in my book, but it certainly provides a pretty good excuse for partisans of the opposite party nowadays.

My two cents. Yours?
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She can’t prove Kav was even present at a party with her.
Her own witnesses have no recollection of this event.
Kav says it didn’t happen.
What’s the point making up scenarios which still implicate him in something, when there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE to support a single thing she says? None.


Mark Judge is going to be interviewed by the FBI.
The one that Ford says was with Kavanaugh.
You know, the one who's been hiding out in a Delaware motel for the last two weeks.
That one.
And CNN just announced that Deborah Ramirez is going to be interviewed by the FBI, too.
So you just settle your little self down and let law enforcement do their job.
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This is definitely one of more annoying things the Dems have been doing, acting surprised, offended, and concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college. In a vacuum, that means zero, and they know that.

Partisan politics. Yuck.

Haven't seen or heard anyone "act surprised, offended, concerned that a guy drank a lot of beer in college" --- haven't even seen anyone bring up that at the time the Maryland drinking age was 21 and therefore he was illegal.

What I have heard is questioning on what he did while drunk, and his history of drinking to the excessive point of puking, passing out, etc.


The drinking age in MD was 18 when Brett drank beer as a senior. I am not going to clutch my pearls that teenagers drank beer. The fiction about puking and passing out is Dem Smear Spin. It's rather beneath you to indulge it.


No, it's not.
Many of Kavanaugh's Yale classmates are speaking out about his drinking.

Put this in your pie hole and light it up:


Kavanaugh's college friends say he lied under oath about drinking

https://www.msnbc.com/.../kavanaugh-s-college-friends-say-he-lied-under-oath-about-d...
View attachment 219327▶ 5:59
17 hours ago
Two friends of Brett Kavanaugh's from Yale University say he was not being honest when he testified about ...

Kavanaugh dodges repeated questions about his drinking habits ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/kavanaugh-dodges-repeated-questions-about-his-dri...

2 days ago - The Times said a group of Kavanaugh's Yale classmates also recalled that he once got so ... Klobuchar replied, "I have no drinking problem.".
Kavanaugh's 'choir boy' image on Fox interview rankles former Yale ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../ea5e50d4-c0eb-11e8-9005-5104e9616c21_story.ht...

4 days ago - Some took issue with the Supreme Court nominee's description of his ... But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale ...
The Impunity of Brett Kavanaugh's Binge Drinking - The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/...kavanaughs...drinking/571435/

1 day ago - Klobuchar: “I have no drinking problem, judge.” ... He'd talk about getting into Yale, and then into Yale Law, which, he would like to remind ...
Brett Kavanaugh: Former Yale classmates speak out after 'choir boy ...

https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas

2 days ago - Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said in a nationally televised interview that in ... But it was his comments about drinking that rankled some Yale University classmates, ... “There was drinking, and there was alcohol.


My, how charming you are.

I bet your high school classmates before you dropped out of school have lovely things to say about your vulgar, drug addled antics.


Losers attack the messenger when they can't attack the message.
You keep shoveling the shit. I'll keep posting the facts. M'kay?
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Oh Jeebus you are boring.
 
Maybe

But I think it was more than just a dry hump for fun

He tried to remove her clothes but she had a bathing suit on underneath and he gave up
Prove it, asshole.


AM I THE ONLY ONE who has noticed the ring around Chrissy's throat?

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What is that?
  1. Residual marks left from her B&D sex collar removed for the hearing?
  2. Deliberately put there to subliminally make her appear more the "victim?"
  3. Leftover choke marks from her husband after pleading with the psycho liberal bitch not to go through with this crap failed?
I want this to end up with Brett on the Supreme Court, Feinstein impeached and Chrissy Ford counter-sued for one million dollars.

Also 'she' looks more like a Chris than a Chrissy and, why does a full grown woman sound like a mousy teenager? He/she was obviously heavily coached.
 
Somebody had to take her to the party and take her home that night. Who? If there's one person who could validate her state after she left the party after being assaulted, that's the person. But she doesn't remember who it was. And everybody in America knows about her and this story by now, but nobody has come forward and tell us about how Ford was acting on the way home. Then there's the problem with the dates and places, she doesn't know exactly where or when and never reported the attack to anybody. I understand that, it can't be easy to do that, especially when you're 15 but damn, you can't just say well she claims this so it must be true. Point #4.

We've already done this to death. There is nothing memorable about "a ride home". There isn't particularly anything memorable about a small party where some kids drunk and everybody gets a ride home. Neither would be worthy of memory. There IS on the other hand much to remember about suffocating from a hand being placed over one's mouth with a bigger older person on top of them in a locked room. A hell of a lot. This argument of not remembering the journey home has never had merit.

Matter of fact any such journey would be even less likely to be recalled since during that journey the events in the bedroom would have been forefront in the victim's mind. Far more likely is that the car driver would end up saying "Christine? Christine? We're here" because she hadn't noticed.


rapists don't rape somebody when they're 17 and then never do it again

And again with the reading comprehension --- this isn't a rape. But drunks who get smashed to the point of puking, blacking out and having to reconstruct what went down during that period, *DO* do it again. And as Kavanaugh confirmed, he does.


Great assumptions, now prove them.

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