So....how many posters do we have who have heard of this INCEL Movement?

Solving for simple poverty is a simple social safety net. You don't need to care beyond that. You morals, don't matter if you are not directly involved.

Oh, and as a tax payer, I am involved. You are the one who is not involved. You are just looking for an unneeded handout.
i am more involved than you, should the issue of standing need to be quibbled.

Correcting for a market based phenomena is more rational than any political or means tested solution.

No, you are not. You are not paying taxes. You do not need financial assistance.
it is about equal protection of the law.

So you have said. Repeatedly.

And yet, you have shown no law saying you are due a continued paycheck after voluntarily quitting your job.
there is no basis to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

no employer is obligated to pay a working wage for nothing.
 
Solving for simple poverty is a simple social safety net. You don't need to care beyond that. You morals, don't matter if you are not directly involved.

Oh, and as a tax payer, I am involved. You are the one who is not involved. You are just looking for an unneeded handout.
i am more involved than you, should the issue of standing need to be quibbled.

Correcting for a market based phenomena is more rational than any political or means tested solution.

And correcting for the natural rate of unemployment is about people who are either unable to find work or unable to work. You are neither. You simply opted out of working.
the law is employment at the will of either party, not Your silly rules.

My rules are the law of the land. There is no protection for one who opts out of work and then whines about not having spending money.
the law is, employment at the will of either party. enforce the law.
 
Oh, and as a tax payer, I am involved. You are the one who is not involved. You are just looking for an unneeded handout.
i am more involved than you, should the issue of standing need to be quibbled.

Correcting for a market based phenomena is more rational than any political or means tested solution.

No, you are not. You are not paying taxes. You do not need financial assistance.
it is about equal protection of the law.

So you have said. Repeatedly.

And yet, you have shown no law saying you are due a continued paycheck after voluntarily quitting your job.
there is no basis to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

no employer is obligated to pay a working wage for nothing.

No one is forced to pay a working wage for nothing. And unemployment compensation is a temporary financial aid. It is not a cure-all.

There are good reasons to deny unemployment compensation, according to those who run the program. What you want is welfare.
 
Oh, and as a tax payer, I am involved. You are the one who is not involved. You are just looking for an unneeded handout.
i am more involved than you, should the issue of standing need to be quibbled.

Correcting for a market based phenomena is more rational than any political or means tested solution.

And correcting for the natural rate of unemployment is about people who are either unable to find work or unable to work. You are neither. You simply opted out of working.
the law is employment at the will of either party, not Your silly rules.

My rules are the law of the land. There is no protection for one who opts out of work and then whines about not having spending money.
the law is, employment at the will of either party. enforce the law.

Yes, employment is at the will of either party. That only means that either party can terminate employment at any time. It does not mean you continue to receive money.
 
i am more involved than you, should the issue of standing need to be quibbled.

Correcting for a market based phenomena is more rational than any political or means tested solution.

No, you are not. You are not paying taxes. You do not need financial assistance.
it is about equal protection of the law.

So you have said. Repeatedly.

And yet, you have shown no law saying you are due a continued paycheck after voluntarily quitting your job.
there is no basis to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

no employer is obligated to pay a working wage for nothing.

No one is forced to pay a working wage for nothing. And unemployment compensation is a temporary financial aid. It is not a cure-all.

There are good reasons to deny unemployment compensation, according to those who run the program. What you want is welfare.
you are confused. unemployment compensation, compensates for capitalism's not socialism's, natural rate of unemployment. providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.
 
i am more involved than you, should the issue of standing need to be quibbled.

Correcting for a market based phenomena is more rational than any political or means tested solution.

And correcting for the natural rate of unemployment is about people who are either unable to find work or unable to work. You are neither. You simply opted out of working.
the law is employment at the will of either party, not Your silly rules.

My rules are the law of the land. There is no protection for one who opts out of work and then whines about not having spending money.
the law is, employment at the will of either party. enforce the law.

Yes, employment is at the will of either party. That only means that either party can terminate employment at any time. It does not mean you continue to receive money.
not the same amount of money. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is simply that. why deny and disparage equal protection of the law?
 
No, you are not. You are not paying taxes. You do not need financial assistance.
it is about equal protection of the law.

So you have said. Repeatedly.

And yet, you have shown no law saying you are due a continued paycheck after voluntarily quitting your job.
there is no basis to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

no employer is obligated to pay a working wage for nothing.

No one is forced to pay a working wage for nothing. And unemployment compensation is a temporary financial aid. It is not a cure-all.

There are good reasons to deny unemployment compensation, according to those who run the program. What you want is welfare.
you are confused. unemployment compensation, compensates for capitalism's not socialism's, natural rate of unemployment. providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

I am not confused at all. Unemployment compensation and welfare are two different programs. The only reason you want unemployment compensation is that it doesn't have a means test. So you can continue to live with your Mom and get paid for doing nothing. The reason unemplyment compensation does not have a means test is because of the restrictions on who collects it. If it becomes financial assistance for anyone without a job (or without an address) there will be some sort of means test, I can guarantee that.
 
And correcting for the natural rate of unemployment is about people who are either unable to find work or unable to work. You are neither. You simply opted out of working.
the law is employment at the will of either party, not Your silly rules.

My rules are the law of the land. There is no protection for one who opts out of work and then whines about not having spending money.
the law is, employment at the will of either party. enforce the law.

Yes, employment is at the will of either party. That only means that either party can terminate employment at any time. It does not mean you continue to receive money.
not the same amount of money. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is simply that. why deny and disparage equal protection of the law?

No, it does not mean you continue to receive any money. You quit. You opted out of working. So the welfare programs are your only option.
 
it is about equal protection of the law.

So you have said. Repeatedly.

And yet, you have shown no law saying you are due a continued paycheck after voluntarily quitting your job.
there is no basis to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

no employer is obligated to pay a working wage for nothing.

No one is forced to pay a working wage for nothing. And unemployment compensation is a temporary financial aid. It is not a cure-all.

There are good reasons to deny unemployment compensation, according to those who run the program. What you want is welfare.
you are confused. unemployment compensation, compensates for capitalism's not socialism's, natural rate of unemployment. providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

I am not confused at all. Unemployment compensation and welfare are two different programs. The only reason you want unemployment compensation is that it doesn't have a means test. So you can continue to live with your Mom and get paid for doing nothing. The reason unemplyment compensation does not have a means test is because of the restrictions on who collects it. If it becomes financial assistance for anyone without a job (or without an address) there will be some sort of means test, I can guarantee that.
you have nothing but ad hominems.

solving for capitalism's natural of unemployment provides for the general welfare through a positive multiplier effect on our economy. increasing market participation will have the effect of helping our economy become more efficient in the process.
 
the law is employment at the will of either party, not Your silly rules.

My rules are the law of the land. There is no protection for one who opts out of work and then whines about not having spending money.
the law is, employment at the will of either party. enforce the law.

Yes, employment is at the will of either party. That only means that either party can terminate employment at any time. It does not mean you continue to receive money.
not the same amount of money. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is simply that. why deny and disparage equal protection of the law?

No, it does not mean you continue to receive any money. You quit. You opted out of working. So the welfare programs are your only option.
equal protection of the law is what we are discussing, not the subjective value of your morals.
 
So you have said. Repeatedly.

And yet, you have shown no law saying you are due a continued paycheck after voluntarily quitting your job.
there is no basis to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

no employer is obligated to pay a working wage for nothing.

No one is forced to pay a working wage for nothing. And unemployment compensation is a temporary financial aid. It is not a cure-all.

There are good reasons to deny unemployment compensation, according to those who run the program. What you want is welfare.
you are confused. unemployment compensation, compensates for capitalism's not socialism's, natural rate of unemployment. providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

I am not confused at all. Unemployment compensation and welfare are two different programs. The only reason you want unemployment compensation is that it doesn't have a means test. So you can continue to live with your Mom and get paid for doing nothing. The reason unemplyment compensation does not have a means test is because of the restrictions on who collects it. If it becomes financial assistance for anyone without a job (or without an address) there will be some sort of means test, I can guarantee that.
you have nothing but ad hominems.

solving for capitalism's natural of unemployment provides for the general welfare through a positive multiplier effect on our economy. increasing market participation will have the effect of helping our economy become more efficient in the process.

Welfare does that just as well, if not better. It provides money to those in need, which a positive multiplier effect on our economy and increases market participation.

Unemployment compensation was never intended to tackle poverty, as such.
 
My rules are the law of the land. There is no protection for one who opts out of work and then whines about not having spending money.
the law is, employment at the will of either party. enforce the law.

Yes, employment is at the will of either party. That only means that either party can terminate employment at any time. It does not mean you continue to receive money.
not the same amount of money. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is simply that. why deny and disparage equal protection of the law?

No, it does not mean you continue to receive any money. You quit. You opted out of working. So the welfare programs are your only option.
equal protection of the law is what we are discussing, not the subjective value of your morals.

There already is equal protection under the law. Either side can end the relationship in at-will states. In the relationship the employer provides pay and the employee provides labor. You deprive the employer of your labor, but you think you should still receive compensation. THAT would not be equal protection under the law.
 
there is no basis to deny or disparage unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

no employer is obligated to pay a working wage for nothing.

No one is forced to pay a working wage for nothing. And unemployment compensation is a temporary financial aid. It is not a cure-all.

There are good reasons to deny unemployment compensation, according to those who run the program. What you want is welfare.
you are confused. unemployment compensation, compensates for capitalism's not socialism's, natural rate of unemployment. providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

I am not confused at all. Unemployment compensation and welfare are two different programs. The only reason you want unemployment compensation is that it doesn't have a means test. So you can continue to live with your Mom and get paid for doing nothing. The reason unemplyment compensation does not have a means test is because of the restrictions on who collects it. If it becomes financial assistance for anyone without a job (or without an address) there will be some sort of means test, I can guarantee that.
you have nothing but ad hominems.

solving for capitalism's natural of unemployment provides for the general welfare through a positive multiplier effect on our economy. increasing market participation will have the effect of helping our economy become more efficient in the process.

Welfare does that just as well, if not better. It provides money to those in need, which a positive multiplier effect on our economy and increases market participation.

Unemployment compensation was never intended to tackle poverty, as such.
it can't do it better or we would have no homeless problem. correcting for that capital based phenomena is the capital based solution under capitalism.
 
the law is, employment at the will of either party. enforce the law.

Yes, employment is at the will of either party. That only means that either party can terminate employment at any time. It does not mean you continue to receive money.
not the same amount of money. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is simply that. why deny and disparage equal protection of the law?

No, it does not mean you continue to receive any money. You quit. You opted out of working. So the welfare programs are your only option.
equal protection of the law is what we are discussing, not the subjective value of your morals.

There already is equal protection under the law. Either side can end the relationship in at-will states. In the relationship the employer provides pay and the employee provides labor. You deprive the employer of your labor, but you think you should still receive compensation. THAT would not be equal protection under the law.
equal protection of the law means labor can apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.
 
No one is forced to pay a working wage for nothing. And unemployment compensation is a temporary financial aid. It is not a cure-all.

There are good reasons to deny unemployment compensation, according to those who run the program. What you want is welfare.
you are confused. unemployment compensation, compensates for capitalism's not socialism's, natural rate of unemployment. providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

I am not confused at all. Unemployment compensation and welfare are two different programs. The only reason you want unemployment compensation is that it doesn't have a means test. So you can continue to live with your Mom and get paid for doing nothing. The reason unemplyment compensation does not have a means test is because of the restrictions on who collects it. If it becomes financial assistance for anyone without a job (or without an address) there will be some sort of means test, I can guarantee that.
you have nothing but ad hominems.

solving for capitalism's natural of unemployment provides for the general welfare through a positive multiplier effect on our economy. increasing market participation will have the effect of helping our economy become more efficient in the process.

Welfare does that just as well, if not better. It provides money to those in need, which a positive multiplier effect on our economy and increases market participation.

Unemployment compensation was never intended to tackle poverty, as such.
it can't do it better or we would have no homeless problem. correcting for that capital based phenomena is the capital based solution under capitalism.

The only way unemployment compensation solves homelessness is if you make some huge changes in the way the benefits are delivered. Just make those changes to welfare and the problem will be solved. No need to make the numerous other changes at all.
 
Yes, employment is at the will of either party. That only means that either party can terminate employment at any time. It does not mean you continue to receive money.
not the same amount of money. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is simply that. why deny and disparage equal protection of the law?

No, it does not mean you continue to receive any money. You quit. You opted out of working. So the welfare programs are your only option.
equal protection of the law is what we are discussing, not the subjective value of your morals.

There already is equal protection under the law. Either side can end the relationship in at-will states. In the relationship the employer provides pay and the employee provides labor. You deprive the employer of your labor, but you think you should still receive compensation. THAT would not be equal protection under the law.
equal protection of the law means labor can apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Obviously it does not. You WANT it to mean that, but it doesn't.
 
you are confused. unemployment compensation, compensates for capitalism's not socialism's, natural rate of unemployment. providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution.

I am not confused at all. Unemployment compensation and welfare are two different programs. The only reason you want unemployment compensation is that it doesn't have a means test. So you can continue to live with your Mom and get paid for doing nothing. The reason unemplyment compensation does not have a means test is because of the restrictions on who collects it. If it becomes financial assistance for anyone without a job (or without an address) there will be some sort of means test, I can guarantee that.
you have nothing but ad hominems.

solving for capitalism's natural of unemployment provides for the general welfare through a positive multiplier effect on our economy. increasing market participation will have the effect of helping our economy become more efficient in the process.

Welfare does that just as well, if not better. It provides money to those in need, which a positive multiplier effect on our economy and increases market participation.

Unemployment compensation was never intended to tackle poverty, as such.
it can't do it better or we would have no homeless problem. correcting for that capital based phenomena is the capital based solution under capitalism.

The only way unemployment compensation solves homelessness is if you make some huge changes in the way the benefits are delivered. Just make those changes to welfare and the problem will be solved. No need to make the numerous other changes at all.
equal protection of the law is not a huge change. it is more efficient and will lower costs to employers who will no longer be personally responsible for it.
 
not the same amount of money. compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is simply that. why deny and disparage equal protection of the law?

No, it does not mean you continue to receive any money. You quit. You opted out of working. So the welfare programs are your only option.
equal protection of the law is what we are discussing, not the subjective value of your morals.

There already is equal protection under the law. Either side can end the relationship in at-will states. In the relationship the employer provides pay and the employee provides labor. You deprive the employer of your labor, but you think you should still receive compensation. THAT would not be equal protection under the law.
equal protection of the law means labor can apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Obviously it does not. You WANT it to mean that, but it doesn't.
that is express not implied. why do you have a problem with promoting the general welfare in an economically friendly manner?
 

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