So...Trump’s now going after legal immigrants.

Sorry, children, but immigration on this planet has been going on long before you and yours got here and will continue long after you are gone.
This country is, on record, is one of the newest on the planet, only a little over 400 years old.
Everyone here is descended from someone who came from somewhere else.
If you're not a direct, clean and pure descendant of the Wampanoags, who saved the first colonists from starvation, then STFU.

Times change my friend. At one time, we needed as many people here as we could get because we were building a new country. Those days are long over, and we now have our own to tend to. Now we can enjoy the fruits of our labor and those of our fathers.
 
We have way too many Mexicans. It's downright racist I tell you. Send them back before they make babies, then it will be impossible and we will have to foot the bill for generations to come.
 
We have way too many Mexicans. It's downright racist I tell you. Send them back before they make babies, then it will be impossible and we will have to foot the bill for generations to come.

But my bleeding heart! People are suffering! Let's sacrifice our own comfort in a misguided attempt to save them!
 
So these people come here to game the system or to learn how to game the system with democrats and bleeding hearts teaching them how to be victims. AND we are supposed to pay for it, not ask any questions, not improve the system, and not root out the fraud. Every immigrant is as pure as the driven snow, innocent as the day is long, and too ignorant to be capable of gaming the system. People have been here for twenty years or longer and never applied for citizenship. Right. This is a typical democratic talking point, the immigrant bears no responsibility for doing anything. The govt Will never run out of money. Let me ask our resident bleeding heart when is it too much? When we are funding a million of these people, 5 million of these people, 20 million of these people? Because if you admit to a limit, you have destroyed your argument. The circumstances don’t change no matter the number, they are all needy and wanting. And as usual, American citizens take a back seat. We must subsidize immigrants who aren’t citizens before we fund our own people. It isn’t trump, who is trying to bring order to the chaos, who is a piece of work, it’s our budding socialists who are the real pieces of work.
 
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The new proposal would extend it to those receiving ANY public assistence what so ever, such as subsidies to purchase health insurance, or utilizing the school lunch program, or CHIP.

It'll be a good thing for our economy in my opinion.

American prosperity > Comfort of foreigners

Well, I disagree Confounding.

You disagree that it will benefit our economy or that American prosperity should take priority? Or both?

I disagree that it will benefit our economy. Short term assistance can be outweighed by long term benefits when an immigrant proves to be a productive worker, pays taxes, starts new business' and quite often this is carried over to the next generation. Immigrants come here for a chance to succeed and often do.

What's more - immigrants are already barred, for five years from using most forms of public assistance - but - they pay into those systems. According to the Social Security Administration’s estimate - immigrants (including illegal immigrants) pay some $13 billion into the nation’s retirement fund every year, while they received only about $1 billion in return.
 
We have way too many Mexicans. It's downright racist I tell you. Send them back before they make babies, then it will be impossible and we will have to foot the bill for generations to come.

But my bleeding heart! People are suffering! Let's sacrifice our own comfort in a misguided attempt to save them!

Have you been directly affected?
 
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The new proposal would extend it to those receiving ANY public assistence what so ever, such as subsidies to purchase health insurance, or utilizing the school lunch program, or CHIP.

It'll be a good thing for our economy in my opinion.

American prosperity > Comfort of foreigners

Well, I disagree Confounding.

You disagree that it will benefit our economy or that American prosperity should take priority? Or both?

I disagree that it will benefit our economy. Short term assistance can be outweighed by long term benefits when an immigrant proves to be a productive worker, pays taxes, starts new business' and quite often this is carried over to the next generation. Immigrants come here for a chance to succeed and often do.

What's more - immigrants are already barred, for five years from using most forms of public assistance - but - they pay into those systems. According to the Social Security Administration’s estimate - immigrants (including illegal immigrants) pay some $13 billion into the nation’s retirement fund every year, while they received only about $1 billion in return.

Most of them probably have children which there are no limits when they can use the systems.
 
We have way too many Mexicans. It's downright racist I tell you. Send them back before they make babies, then it will be impossible and we will have to foot the bill for generations to come.

But my bleeding heart! People are suffering! Let's sacrifice our own comfort in a misguided attempt to save them!

Have you been directly affected?

Of course I have. Welfare is paid for with my money. I've always supported social safety nets for poor AMERICANS, but contributing people in the United States cannot afford to take care of the poor south of our border.
 
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The new proposal would extend it to those receiving ANY public assistence what so ever, such as subsidies to purchase health insurance, or utilizing the school lunch program, or CHIP.

It'll be a good thing for our economy in my opinion.

American prosperity > Comfort of foreigners

Well, I disagree Confounding.

You disagree that it will benefit our economy or that American prosperity should take priority? Or both?

I disagree that it will benefit our economy. Short term assistance can be outweighed by long term benefits when an immigrant proves to be a productive worker, pays taxes, starts new business' and quite often this is carried over to the next generation. Immigrants come here for a chance to succeed and often do.

What's more - immigrants are already barred, for five years from using most forms of public assistance - but - they pay into those systems. According to the Social Security Administration’s estimate - immigrants (including illegal immigrants) pay some $13 billion into the nation’s retirement fund every year, while they received only about $1 billion in return.

Well of course, most of the immigrants are still not retired since we started taking them in masses. Just wait until they get old and the social security will be bleeding with no end.
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.

Immigrants who rely completely on welfare programs or long-term Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

NO VACANCY

TAKE YOUR BROKE ASSES HOME
 
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The new proposal would extend it to those receiving ANY public assistence what so ever, such as subsidies to purchase health insurance, or utilizing the school lunch program, or CHIP.

It'll be a good thing for our economy in my opinion.

American prosperity > Comfort of foreigners

Well, I disagree Confounding.

You disagree that it will benefit our economy or that American prosperity should take priority? Or both?

I disagree that it will benefit our economy. Short term assistance can be outweighed by long term benefits when an immigrant proves to be a productive worker, pays taxes, starts new business' and quite often this is carried over to the next generation. Immigrants come here for a chance to succeed and often do.

What's more - immigrants are already barred, for five years from using most forms of public assistance - but - they pay into those systems. According to the Social Security Administration’s estimate - immigrants (including illegal immigrants) pay some $13 billion into the nation’s retirement fund every year, while they received only about $1 billion in return.
---------------------------------------- i could not care less about the money or the economy . My concern [for one] is with schools for young Americans plus American kids that have to grow up with these third worlders when they have to attend school with scads of third worlders and ESL . And as far as economy and money , i always made money in my 69 years and my Dad as a single wage earner in the house made money enough to raise and feed 5 kids and a wife and there were very few legal or illegal imported third worlders in the USA Coyote .
 
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and then the worse thing is that if they are legal they MAY VOTE to change America to something that i , a Real American doesn't want . Gun Control as an example Coyote .
 
and then the worse thing is that if they are legal they MAY VOTE to change America to something that i , a Real American doesn't want . Gun Control as an example Coyote .

"May" is not the word to use. It's a statistical certainty they will do so, which is exactly why Coyote wants them in... hates guns and American values... And Americans.
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.

Immigrants who rely completely on welfare programs or long-term Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

Why do they completely rely on welfare why don't they have jobs and pay for themselves? Are they just lazy and expect American taxpayers to fund them and their family?
They don’t completely rely on welfare Lucy. Read the article.
You should do research on immigration. Check out other countries like Australia and other South American countries.
 
What a piece of trash he is.

Proposed Trump rule change could put millions of legal immigrants at risk of deportation

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.

Immigrants who rely completely on welfare programs or long-term Medicaid benefits are typically considered public charges, but the Trump administration wants to extend those guidelines to include immigrants who use public housing, subsidies to help pay for health insurance, food stamps, income tax credits, the Children's Health Insurance Program and non-emergency uses of Medicaid, according to a White House draft obtained by The Washington Post.

A recent study by The New England Journal of Medicine found that the changes “could have important consequences for access to medical care and the health of millions of immigrants and their families.” An estimated 1 million noncitizens would lose their insurance, the study found.

Currently, immigrants who rely on, or are expected to rely on, the government for more than half of their income are considered “public charges” and can be banned from entering the country or deported, even if they’re otherwise eligible for extended residency.

Good. We have enough people collecting welfare, we don't need to import more.
 
“So...Trump’s now going after legal immigrants.”

This is because like his supporters and most on the right, Trump is a frightened, hateful bigot and racist.

And like most conservatives, Trump has an unwarranted fear of immigrants and immigration; an unwarranted fear of change and diversity; and an unwarranted fear that ‘white culture’ will be ‘replaced.’
 
“So...Trump’s now going after legal immigrants.”

This is because like his supporters and most on the right, Trump is a frightened, hateful bigot and racist.

And like most conservatives, Trump has an unwarranted fear of immigrants and immigration; an unwarranted fear of change and diversity; and an unwarranted fear that ‘white culture’ will be ‘replaced.’

Do you think the it will be a net gain or loss for our economy?
 
“So...Trump’s now going after legal immigrants.”

This is because like his supporters and most on the right, Trump is a frightened, hateful bigot and racist.

And like most conservatives, Trump has an unwarranted fear of immigrants and immigration; an unwarranted fear of change and diversity; and an unwarranted fear that ‘white culture’ will be ‘replaced.’
--------------------------------------- cool , replace WHITE culture with WESTERN Culture in your post and i'd agree with what you say for the most part Clay .
 
“So...Trump’s now going after legal immigrants.”

This is because like his supporters and most on the right, Trump is a frightened, hateful bigot and racist.

And like most conservatives, Trump has an unwarranted fear of immigrants and immigration; an unwarranted fear of change and diversity; and an unwarranted fear that ‘white culture’ will be ‘replaced.’

Even if there was any truth to that, shouldn't he be? After all, can you name me one country that has people stupid enough to support making them a minority outside of stupid liberal whites?
 

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