Some questions for Democrats and other Trump critics

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't care. Are there some kind of board rules that state I can't respond to another's comment?

You can respond, but when you act like the post was directed at you it just highlights your stupidity. Which I am good with, but didn't know if you were

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They don't even understand political principles much less follow any.

All they know is the unquestioning fealty demanded of them by their masters.

 

[JGalt]

They don't even understand political principles much less follow any.

All they know is the unquestioning fealty demanded of them by their masters.

Where you or I might see a politician as working for US (and why Trump was under attack) they see themselves as the subjects of those in office.

They love the nanny state because they want a nanny.

But if Trump was such a "bully" and a "nanny", why wouldn't the big-government liberals not like him?

 

[JGalt]

You can respond, but when you act like the post was directed at you it just highlights your stupidity. Which I am good with, but didn't know if you were

How is asking a question "stupidity"? You do know that the only stupid question is one that goes unasked, right?

Geeze, you're hostile. Take a chill pill, dude.

 

[JGalt]

I don't get your meme. What is it supposed to represent, something about irony?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't get your meme. What is it supposed to represent, something about irony?

...highlights your stupidity. Which I am good with, but didn't know if you were

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Says the phony libertarian who doesn't bat an eye when Democrat authoritarians take away our freedom of assembly, or right to run a business.

 

[JGalt]

...highlights your stupidity. Which I am good with, but didn't know if you were

Apparently you saw something I didn't. After reading Dogmaphobe's post, I don't understand what you meant by your meme. Maybe you can explain it for me.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Says the phony libertarian who doesn't bat an eye when Democrat authoritarians take away our freedom of assembly, or right to run a business.

Both of which I spoke out against on this very forum.

Do try and keep up.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Apparently you saw something I didn't. After reading Dogmaphobe's post, I don't understand what you mean't by your meme.

And you just keep doing it.

 

[Mac1958]

I made valid criticisms of Trump.

His dishonesty, thievery, bullying, ...I'm sure you can look them up.
All are valid and all can be documented right down to his open threats of violence toward a NY prosecutor.

Fear is not a word I'd use to describe what I think of the collective you and your fealty to Trump.

Disappointment, sadness, but most often you could describe my attitude as that of a small child cruelly making fun of a mentally handicapped person.

I'd say my vision of you and Trump is that of an abusive marriage. Trump takes the rent and grocery money to party down at the strip club then when he comes home he blames it on you and you apologize because you're afraid he won't 'love' you anymore.

A typical narcissistic relationship.

The question is why you continue to be Trump's victim when there are other choices?

An abused spouse will often endure the abuse because of their own lack of self esteem.

That would be another parallel.

 

[Mac1958]

Both of which I spoke out against on this very forum.

Do try and keep up.

That one's screen name is spectacularly ironic, isn't it?

 

[JGalt]

Well I'll have to admit that this thread hasn't been very productive. Aside from one responder whose who lived in a state that saw a tax increase because of the SALT cap, I've seen very few responses to the question of exactly what Trump did to hurt to you, the American people. So let's try something different: To put the last 6 years into perspective, lets look at a few things Trump did not do to negatively-affect your own personal safety, security, or prosperity, to infringe on any of your personal Constitutional rights, or otherwise cause you losses...

Here is a verifiable list of things which have occurred or are taking place during the current President's term:

• Promised on several occasions that he would "end fossil fuels"

• Later stated “We’re going to need oil for at least another decade”

• Gasoline that rose over two times the price it was in 2018

• Ended Keystone XL pipeline while waiving sanctions on Russia's Nord Stream 2

• Suspected US involvement in the bombing of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline

• The price of oil jumped up to $130 per barrel

• Drained US Strategic Oil Reserve to the lowest level since 1984

• Begged Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for oil

• Inflation rate rose as high as 9.1%, which was almost 5 times higher than it was in 2019

• A recession

• Dumped billions of dollars down the black hole of "Global Warming"

• U.S. household wealth down $13.5 trillion in 2022 - Second fastest decline on record

• Average middle-class family came up about $6,000 short of purchasing power

• The DOW dropped 6,700 points in only a year

• Stock market lost $9 trillion dollars worth of value in only two years

• Retirement accounts lost $3 trillion dollars

• 30 year fixed mortgages rose by 4.43% in only two years, to 7.75%

• Home prices soared 43% in only two years and housing sales slumped

• Median asking rent prices rose 79.7% in only two years

• Bankrupted landlords by excusing rent payments

• Grocery prices increased by 13.5% in only two years

• The price of electricity rose by 15.8% in only two years

• Hefty tax increases on the lower and middle class

• 84,000 new IRS agents arming and training to be home invaders

• Use of DOJ and FBI to harass political opponents

• A broken election system corrupt with fraud, sometimes taking months to count

• Wholesale mailing of ballots, ballot drop boxes, and illegal ballot harvesting

• Used a complicit media to lie, distort facts, and disseminate disinformation

• Conducting covert raids on American citizens and confiscating personal property

• Supply line disruptions, backorders, items out of stock or unavailable

• Massive backlog of cargo ships at US ports in 2022

• Sporadic shortages on grocery store shelves

• Air transportation disrupted, thousands of flight cancellations in 2022

• FAA system outages that disrupted thousands of flights in 2023

• Food-processing plants mysteriously burning down

• Record prices for eggs and poultry

• Record number of ecological disasters, train derailments, chemical spills, and fires

• Thousands of small businesses destroyed in order to benefit mega-corporations

• Continuing monumental trade deficit with China

• Allowed Communist China to operate "Police Stations" in American cities

• Allowed Chinese spy balloon to cross entire country, spying on military sites

• Used a $400,000 missile to shoot down a $12 hobbyist balloon over Alaska

• More COVID deaths than in 2020

• Vaccine mandates which caused deaths and debilitating health conditions

• Vaccine mandates which caused massive job losses for those who refused compliance

• Continued government funding for Planned Parenthood

• Eliminated Medicaid work requirements

• Increased food stamp giveaways by more than $1 billion a month, without Congress

• A whole generation of kids physically and psychologically damaged by prison-style lockdowns

• Subjecting young girls to creepy boys posing as "transgenders" in girl's locker rooms

• Stealing women's ability to fairly compete by allowing transgender males in women's sports

• Subjecting children to pornographic "Drag shows" and grooming them to be sex objects

• The promotion of transgenderism in schools, resulting in the genital and fertility mutilation
of children and adolescents by unethical medical practices and Big Pharma.

• Mass shootings occurring sometimes three times a week

• An exponentially-spiraling epidemic of violent crime and drugs

• Shutting down private prisons and turning inmates loose

• Fentanyl seizures up 745 percent

• 100,000 fentanyl deaths during Biden's first year of presidency

• 120% increase in opioid deaths in just two years

• Encouraged illegals to "surge" across the border without reason for amnesty

• A neutered Immigration and Customs Enforcement, virtually stopping arrests and deportations

• 4.9 million illegals crossing US border within only two years

• Added non-citizens to the census

• Immigration policies that dispersed COVID, crime, and potential terrorism throughout the US

• 900,000 "gotaways" who eluded apprehension and disappeared into American communities

• Record numbers of illegals dying while crossing the border

• Border Patrol arresting 98 who were on the terror watch list in 2022, 3X the last 5 years combined

• A President who wouldn't visit the border and said he had "More important things going on."

• A dishonorable withdrawal from Afghanistan that cost 13 American soldiers their lives

• $7.12 billion worth of US military equipment and weaponry left to the Taliban

• Hundreds of US citizens and Afghans left behind in Afghanistan after the withdrawal

• People falling out of the wheel wells of aircraft leaving Afghanistan

• A weakened US military more concerned with "political correctness" than creating soldiers

• A weakened US military via destructive anti-white racism and transgender-promoting policies

• Record low enlistment numbers

• A revitalized Russian oil industry, despite US sanctions

• A war in Ukraine that has cost the US billions of dollars and killed thousands

• Increased possibility of nuclear war with Russia

• Traded an America-hating lesbian doper basketball player for a terrorist Russian arms dealer,
while leaving an American Marine in a Russian prison

• North Korea continuing to expand their nuclear enrichment and missile programs

• A stronger Iran increasing their funding for Hamas and Hezbollah

• China became more energy and militarily dominant

• A senile, angry, and incompetent president who fell off of a bicycle, fell up stairs, insulted
half the people in America, labeled people as "terrorists", divided the country, and tried to incite
a civil war.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Apparently you saw something I didn't. After reading Dogmaphobe's post, I don't understand what you meant by your meme. Maybe you can explain it for me.

I think he is saying is that he finds it ironic that a fellow who was political science minor in college is commenting on politics when everybody should be listening to a poster who claims to be a libertarian, but follows no libertarian principles, instead.

 

[JGalt]

I think he is saying is that he finds it ironic that a fellow who was political science minor in college is commenting on politics when everybody should be listening to a poster who claims to be a libertarian, but follows no libertarian principles, instead.

Great! Thanks, that made his meme a little clearer, I think.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Well I'll have to admit that this thread hasn't been very productive. Aside from one responder whose who lived in a state that saw a tax increase because of the SALT cap, I've seen very few responses to the question of exactly what Trump did to hurt to you, the American people. So let's try something different: To put the last 6 years into perspective, lets look at a few things Trump did not do to negatively-affect your own personal safety, security, or prosperity, to infringe on any of your personal Constitutional rights, or otherwise cause you losses...

Here is a verifiable list of things which have occurred or are taking place during the current President's term:

• Promised on several occasions that he would "end fossil fuels"

• Later stated “We’re going to need oil for at least another decade”

• Gasoline that rose over two times the price it was in 2018

• Ended Keystone XL pipeline while waiving sanctions on Russia's Nord Stream 2

• Suspected US involvement in the bombing of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline

• The price of oil jumped up to $130 per barrel

• Drained US Strategic Oil Reserve to the lowest level since 1984

• Begged Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for oil

• Inflation rate rose as high as 9.1%, which was almost 5 times higher than it was in 2019

• A recession

• Dumped billions of dollars down the black hole of "Global Warming"

• U.S. household wealth down $13.5 trillion in 2022 - Second fastest decline on record

• Average middle-class family came up about $6,000 short of purchasing power

• The DOW dropped 6,700 points in only a year

• Stock market lost $9 trillion dollars worth of value in only two years

• Retirement accounts lost $3 trillion dollars

• 30 year fixed mortgages rose by 4.43% in only two years, to 7.75%

• Home prices soared 43% in only two years and housing sales slumped

• Median asking rent prices rose 79.7% in only two years

• Bankrupted landlords by excusing rent payments

• Grocery prices increased by 13.5% in only two years

• The price of electricity rose by 15.8% in only two years

• Hefty tax increases on the lower and middle class

• 84,000 new IRS agents arming and training to be home invaders

• Use of DOJ and FBI to harass political opponents

• A broken election system corrupt with fraud, sometimes taking months to count

• Wholesale mailing of ballots, ballot drop boxes, and illegal ballot harvesting

• Used a complicit media to lie, distort facts, and disseminate disinformation

• Conducting covert raids on American citizens and confiscating personal property

• Supply line disruptions, backorders, items out of stock or unavailable

• Massive backlog of cargo ships at US ports in 2022

• Sporadic shortages on grocery store shelves

• Air transportation disrupted, thousands of flight cancellations in 2022

• FAA system outages that disrupted thousands of flights in 2023

• Food-processing plants mysteriously burning down

• Record prices for eggs and poultry

• Record number of ecological disasters, train derailments, chemical spills, and fires

• Thousands of small businesses destroyed in order to benefit mega-corporations

• Continuing monumental trade deficit with China

• Allowed Communist China to operate "Police Stations" in American cities

• Allowed Chinese spy balloon to cross entire country, spying on military sites

• Used a $400,000 missile to shoot down a $12 hobbyist balloon over Alaska

• More COVID deaths than in 2020

• Vaccine mandates which caused deaths and debilitating health conditions

• Vaccine mandates which caused massive job losses for those who refused compliance

• Continued government funding for Planned Parenthood

• Eliminated Medicaid work requirements

• Increased food stamp giveaways by more than $1 billion a month, without Congress

• A whole generation of kids physically and psychologically damaged by prison-style lockdowns

• Subjecting young girls to creepy boys posing as "transgenders" in girl's locker rooms

• Stealing women's ability to fairly compete by allowing transgender males in women's sports

• Subjecting children to pornographic "Drag shows" and grooming them to be sex objects

• The promotion of transgenderism in schools, resulting in the genital and fertility mutilation
of children and adolescents by unethical medical practices and Big Pharma.

• Mass shootings occurring sometimes three times a week

• An exponentially-spiraling epidemic of violent crime and drugs

• Shutting down private prisons and turning inmates loose

• Fentanyl seizures up 745 percent

• 100,000 fentanyl deaths during Biden's first year of presidency

• 120% increase in opioid deaths in just two years

• Encouraged illegals to "surge" across the border without reason for amnesty

• A neutered Immigration and Customs Enforcement, virtually stopping arrests and deportations

• 4.9 million illegals crossing US border within only two years

• Added non-citizens to the census

• Immigration policies that dispersed COVID, crime, and potential terrorism throughout the US

• 900,000 "gotaways" who eluded apprehension and disappeared into American communities

• Record numbers of illegals dying while crossing the border

• Border Patrol arresting 98 who were on the terror watch list in 2022, 3X the last 5 years combined

• A President who wouldn't visit the border and said he had "More important things going on."

• A dishonorable withdrawal from Afghanistan that cost 13 American soldiers their lives

• $7.12 billion worth of US military equipment and weaponry left to the Taliban

• Hundreds of US citizens and Afghans left behind in Afghanistan after the withdrawal

• People falling out of the wheel wells of aircraft leaving Afghanistan

• A weakened US military more concerned with "political correctness" than creating soldiers

• A weakened US military via destructive anti-white racism and transgender-promoting policies

• Record low enlistment numbers

• A revitalized Russian oil industry, despite US sanctions

• A war in Ukraine that has cost the US billions of dollars and killed thousands

• Increased possibility of nuclear war with Russia

• Traded an America-hating lesbian doper basketball player for a terrorist Russian arms dealer,
while leaving an American Marine in a Russian prison

• North Korea continuing to expand their nuclear enrichment and missile programs

• A stronger Iran increasing their funding for Hamas and Hezbollah

• China became more energy and militarily dominant

• A senile, angry, and incompetent president who fell off of a bicycle, fell up stairs, insulted
half the people in America, labeled people as "terrorists", divided the country, and tried to incite
a civil war.

Next time, you need to include a jpeg of the doll.

You shouldn't expect them to use words since doing so is just too traumatic for them. Forcing them to use words intimidates them since they do not wish to re-live that trauma.

Just having them showing us the place Trump touched them by using the doll as a surrogate should suffice.

 

[Faun]

Well I'll have to admit that this thread hasn't been very productive. Aside from one responder whose who lived in a state that saw a tax increase because of the SALT cap, I've seen very few responses to the question of exactly what Trump did to hurt to you, the American people. So let's try something different: To put the last 6 years into perspective, lets look at a few things Trump did not do to negatively-affect your own personal safety, security, or prosperity, to infringe on any of your personal Constitutional rights, or otherwise cause you losses...

Here is a verifiable list of things which have occurred or are taking place during the current President's term:

• Promised on several occasions that he would "end fossil fuels"

• Later stated “We’re going to need oil for at least another decade”

• Gasoline that rose over two times the price it was in 2018

• Ended Keystone XL pipeline while waiving sanctions on Russia's Nord Stream 2

• Suspected US involvement in the bombing of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline

• The price of oil jumped up to $130 per barrel

• Drained US Strategic Oil Reserve to the lowest level since 1984

• Begged Saudi Arabia and Venezuela for oil

• Inflation rate rose as high as 9.1%, which was almost 5 times higher than it was in 2019

• A recession

• Dumped billions of dollars down the black hole of "Global Warming"

• U.S. household wealth down $13.5 trillion in 2022 - Second fastest decline on record

• Average middle-class family came up about $6,000 short of purchasing power

• The DOW dropped 6,700 points in only a year

• Stock market lost $9 trillion dollars worth of value in only two years

• Retirement accounts lost $3 trillion dollars

• 30 year fixed mortgages rose by 4.43% in only two years, to 7.75%

• Home prices soared 43% in only two years and housing sales slumped

• Median asking rent prices rose 79.7% in only two years

• Bankrupted landlords by excusing rent payments

• Grocery prices increased by 13.5% in only two years

• The price of electricity rose by 15.8% in only two years

• Hefty tax increases on the lower and middle class

• 84,000 new IRS agents arming and training to be home invaders

• Use of DOJ and FBI to harass political opponents

• A broken election system corrupt with fraud, sometimes taking months to count

• Wholesale mailing of ballots, ballot drop boxes, and illegal ballot harvesting

• Used a complicit media to lie, distort facts, and disseminate disinformation

• Conducting covert raids on American citizens and confiscating personal property

• Supply line disruptions, backorders, items out of stock or unavailable

• Massive backlog of cargo ships at US ports in 2022

• Sporadic shortages on grocery store shelves

• Air transportation disrupted, thousands of flight cancellations in 2022

• FAA system outages that disrupted thousands of flights in 2023

• Food-processing plants mysteriously burning down

• Record prices for eggs and poultry

• Record number of ecological disasters, train derailments, chemical spills, and fires

• Thousands of small businesses destroyed in order to benefit mega-corporations

• Continuing monumental trade deficit with China

• Allowed Communist China to operate "Police Stations" in American cities

• Allowed Chinese spy balloon to cross entire country, spying on military sites

• Used a $400,000 missile to shoot down a $12 hobbyist balloon over Alaska

• More COVID deaths than in 2020

• Vaccine mandates which caused deaths and debilitating health conditions

• Vaccine mandates which caused massive job losses for those who refused compliance

• Continued government funding for Planned Parenthood

• Eliminated Medicaid work requirements

• Increased food stamp giveaways by more than $1 billion a month, without Congress

• A whole generation of kids physically and psychologically damaged by prison-style lockdowns

• Subjecting young girls to creepy boys posing as "transgenders" in girl's locker rooms

• Stealing women's ability to fairly compete by allowing transgender males in women's sports

• Subjecting children to pornographic "Drag shows" and grooming them to be sex objects

• The promotion of transgenderism in schools, resulting in the genital and fertility mutilation
of children and adolescents by unethical medical practices and Big Pharma.

• Mass shootings occurring sometimes three times a week

• An exponentially-spiraling epidemic of violent crime and drugs

• Shutting down private prisons and turning inmates loose

• Fentanyl seizures up 745 percent

• 100,000 fentanyl deaths during Biden's first year of presidency

• 120% increase in opioid deaths in just two years

• Encouraged illegals to "surge" across the border without reason for amnesty

• A neutered Immigration and Customs Enforcement, virtually stopping arrests and deportations

• 4.9 million illegals crossing US border within only two years

• Added non-citizens to the census

• Immigration policies that dispersed COVID, crime, and potential terrorism throughout the US

• 900,000 "gotaways" who eluded apprehension and disappeared into American communities

• Record numbers of illegals dying while crossing the border

• Border Patrol arresting 98 who were on the terror watch list in 2022, 3X the last 5 years combined

• A President who wouldn't visit the border and said he had "More important things going on."

• A dishonorable withdrawal from Afghanistan that cost 13 American soldiers their lives

• $7.12 billion worth of US military equipment and weaponry left to the Taliban

• Hundreds of US citizens and Afghans left behind in Afghanistan after the withdrawal

• People falling out of the wheel wells of aircraft leaving Afghanistan

• A weakened US military more concerned with "political correctness" than creating soldiers

• A weakened US military via destructive anti-white racism and transgender-promoting policies

• Record low enlistment numbers

• A revitalized Russian oil industry, despite US sanctions

• A war in Ukraine that has cost the US billions of dollars and killed thousands

• Increased possibility of nuclear war with Russia

• Traded an America-hating lesbian doper basketball player for a terrorist Russian arms dealer,
while leaving an American Marine in a Russian prison

• North Korea continuing to expand their nuclear enrichment and missile programs

• A stronger Iran increasing their funding for Hamas and Hezbollah

• China became more energy and militarily dominant

• A senile, angry, and incompetent president who fell off of a bicycle, fell up stairs, insulted
half the people in America, labeled people as "terrorists", divided the country, and tried to incite
a civil war.

I got only as far as the first few items in your list to see you're full of shit...

• Promised on several occasions that he would "end fossil fuels"

He promised it would be replaced by cleaner energy by the year 2050.

• Later stated “We’re going to need oil for at least another decade”

That's because it's not 2050 yet.

• Gasoline that rose over two times the price it was in 2018

The national average for regular reached $3/gallon in 2018. It peaked at $5/gallon in 2022. That's 67% higher, not over 200%.

• Ended Keystone XL pipeline while waiving sanctions on Russia's Nord Stream 2

The Keystone XL pipeline was already shut down by the courts before Biden was even sworn in.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I think he is saying is that he finds it ironic that a fellow who was political science minor in college is commenting on politics when everybody should be listening to a poster who claims to be a libertarian, but follows no libertarian principles, instead.

No, I found it ironic that you of all people said this....All they know is the unquestioning fealty demanded of them by their masters.

It is like you were looking in the mirror talking about yourself.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No, I found it ironic that you of all people said this....All they know is the unquestioning fealty demanded of them by their masters.

It is like you were looking in the mirror talking about yourself.

Yes, I am my own master.

You should try it some time.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yes, I am my own master.

You should try it some time.

Sure, and the moon is made out of cheese