Some simple questions

[Blues Man]

Please post the relevant text.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state...

The individual right is not tied to the militia, but why repeat myself?

I am responding to the claim that gun registration is unconstitutional

It is not

then you should have to register for all your rights before you exercise them.

If you don't register for your 4th amendment rights and get a permit the cops can walk into your house anytime they want

Our fourth amendment rights are not killing 30,000 people a year

Neither is the second

and most gun deaths are suicide and FYI every person has the absolute right to decide whether they live or die

 

[Blues Man]

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

Then how do you explain the wildly varying murder rates between the states?

CA has the toughest gun laws in the country yet their murder rate is 4 times higher than NH which has much looser gun laws

Cali has a firearm murder rate of 7.9 per 100,000, NH has a firearm murder rate of 9.3 per 100,000

Firearm death rates in the United States by state - Wikipedia

you might not want to use wiki anything

Stats of the States - Homicide Mortality

Murder is murder it matters not how it is perpetrated.

There is nothing wrong with the wiki data, it is gun murders, your data is all murders.

And that's exactly what I said in the previous posts it matters not how a person is murdered

murder is murder

and wiki anything is always suspect

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And that's exactly what I said in the previous posts it matters not how a person is murdered

murder is murder

and wiki anything is always suspect

in a discussion about guns and gun violence it seems that how someone is killed matters.

As for wikipedia...
Study shows Wikipedia Accuracy is 99.5%

 

[g5000]

I kept wondering: How many more gun laws and restrictions need to be passed in order to effectively stop this senseless taking of innocent life? Moreover, how long will this go on before the ultimate goal is reached and all gun violence is stopped?

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

That's a 1975 paper.

The countries I listed in my last post have a much higher population density than the US, with the exception of Canada.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-density/

The US has a population density of 13/mi².

France has a population density of 45/mi². And their gun death rate is almost 1/7th of the US.

The United Kingdom has a density of 107/mi². And their gun death rate is 1/85th of the US.

Spain has a density of 36/mi². Gun death rate: 1/30th.

Germany density: 90/mi². Gun death rate: 1/20th.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I kept wondering: How many more gun laws and restrictions need to be passed in order to effectively stop this senseless taking of innocent life? Moreover, how long will this go on before the ultimate goal is reached and all gun violence is stopped?

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

If you reduce gun homicides, you reduce the homicide rate, retard. Gun homicides make up a significant portion of our homicide rate.

I can't believe this has to be explained to you.

Actually, I can believe it judging from your simple minded questions.

Maybe Leftists should stop releasing violent felons early from prison and stop defending M-13 at every opportunity.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I kept wondering: How many more gun laws and restrictions need to be passed in order to effectively stop this senseless taking of innocent life? Moreover, how long will this go on before the ultimate goal is reached and all gun violence is stopped?

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

That's a 1975 paper.

The countries I listed in my last post have a much higher population density than the US, with the exception of Canada.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-density/

The US has a population density of 13/mi².

France has a population density of 45/mi². And their gun death rate is almost 1/7th of the US.

The United Kingdom has a density of 107/mi². And their gun death rate is 1/85th of the US.

Spain has a density of 36/mi². Gun death rate: 1/30th.

Germany density: 90/mi². Gun death rate: 1/20th.

Cultures.

Now do Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras who have very strict gun controls.

 

[g5000]

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

That's a 1975 paper.

The countries I listed in my last post have a much higher population density than the US, with the exception of Canada.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-density/

The US has a population density of 13/mi².

France has a population density of 45/mi². And their gun death rate is almost 1/7th of the US.

The United Kingdom has a density of 107/mi². And their gun death rate is 1/85th of the US.

Spain has a density of 36/mi². Gun death rate: 1/30th.

Germany density: 90/mi². Gun death rate: 1/20th.

Cultures.

Now do Mexico, El Salvador and Honduras who have very strict gun controls.

They are not OECD countries.

We have almost nothing in common with shithole countries.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I kept wondering: How many more gun laws and restrictions need to be passed in order to effectively stop this senseless taking of innocent life? Moreover, how long will this go on before the ultimate goal is reached and all gun violence is stopped?

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

That's a 1975 paper.

The countries I listed in my last post have a much higher population density than the US, with the exception of Canada.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-density/

The US has a population density of 13/mi².

France has a population density of 45/mi². And their gun death rate is almost 1/7th of the US.

The United Kingdom has a density of 107/mi². And their gun death rate is 1/85th of the US.

Spain has a density of 36/mi². Gun death rate: 1/30th.

Germany density: 90/mi². Gun death rate: 1/20th.

So move to one of those. You'd be much happier.

 

[rightwinger]

Gun homicides per 100,000 by country: List of countries by firearm-related death rate - Wikipedia

Canada: 2.05
France: 2.83
UK: 0.23
Spain: 0.62
Germany: 0.99


The United States comes in at a mind-blowing 19.51.

No question whether our guns keep us safe

 

[Weatherman2020]

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

That's a 1975 paper.

The countries I listed in my last post have a much higher population density than the US, with the exception of Canada.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-density/

The US has a population density of 13/mi².

France has a population density of 45/mi². And their gun death rate is almost 1/7th of the US.

The United Kingdom has a density of 107/mi². And their gun death rate is 1/85th of the US.

Spain has a density of 36/mi². Gun death rate: 1/30th.

Germany density: 90/mi². Gun death rate: 1/20th.

So move to one of those. You'd be much happier.

Exactly.

 

[Blues Man]

And that's exactly what I said in the previous posts it matters not how a person is murdered

murder is murder

and wiki anything is always suspect

in a discussion about guns and gun violence it seems that how someone is killed matters.

As for wikipedia...
Study shows Wikipedia Accuracy is 99.5%

all that has ever been mentioned is the murder rate

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And that's exactly what I said in the previous posts it matters not how a person is murdered

murder is murder

and wiki anything is always suspect

in a discussion about guns and gun violence it seems that how someone is killed matters.

As for wikipedia...
Study shows Wikipedia Accuracy is 99.5%

all that has ever been mentioned is the murder rate

it is a thread about guns, some things should just be obvious.

 

[TemplarKormac]

They are not OECD countries.

We have almost nothing in common with shithole countries.

That response invalidates your so called facts.

There are more than 200 countries in the world. Their commonality with the US is irrelevant. Setting empirical limits to commonality with the control is flawed science.

 

[RDD_1210]

I kept wondering: How many more gun laws and restrictions need to be passed in order to effectively stop this senseless taking of innocent life? Moreover, how long will this go on before the ultimate goal is reached and all gun violence is stopped?

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

And?

 

[Blues Man]

And that's exactly what I said in the previous posts it matters not how a person is murdered

murder is murder

and wiki anything is always suspect

in a discussion about guns and gun violence it seems that how someone is killed matters.

As for wikipedia...
Study shows Wikipedia Accuracy is 99.5%

all that has ever been mentioned is the murder rate

it is a thread about guns, some things should just be obvious.

I'm not the one who brought up murder rates

Personally I don't think guns drive murder rates.

It is a much more complex issue

 

[TemplarKormac]

I kept wondering: How many more gun laws and restrictions need to be passed in order to effectively stop this senseless taking of innocent life? Moreover, how long will this go on before the ultimate goal is reached and all gun violence is stopped?

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

And?

That is your reply? And?

I guess I will intentionally mistake that for a lack of a cogent response or counterargument.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And that's exactly what I said in the previous posts it matters not how a person is murdered

murder is murder

and wiki anything is always suspect

in a discussion about guns and gun violence it seems that how someone is killed matters.

As for wikipedia...
Study shows Wikipedia Accuracy is 99.5%

all that has ever been mentioned is the murder rate

it is a thread about guns, some things should just be obvious.

I'm not the one who brought up murder rates

Personally I don't think guns drive murder rates.

It is a much more complex issue

I agree 100%

 

[RDD_1210]

The OECD countries which have stricter gun laws than we do have much, much, much lower homicide rates than we do.

So there's the answer to your simple MINDED question.

NEXT!

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

And?

That is your reply? And?

I guess I will intentionally mistake that for a lack of a cogent response or counterargument.

You posted a link to a paper from 1975 and literally no context. Did you want me to guess what your point is?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Curious, some of those OECD countries are smaller than the US. In those cases smaller populations correlate to lower homicide rates.

Moreover, "homicide" can mean any number of things. Knife murders, murders with a vehicle, strangulation, etc. Stricter gun laws do not stop these types of homicides from occurring.

You could have done without referring to my OP as simple minded though.

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

And?

That is your reply? And?

I guess I will intentionally mistake that for a lack of a cogent response or counterargument.

You posted a link to a paper from 1975 and literally no context. Did you want me to guess what your point is?

Could you not gather the context from the quote chain preceding my post?

No cop outs.

 

[RDD_1210]

Your response certainly is though.

Smaller populations have nothing to do with rates. Rates are a percentage independent of sample size.

No.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.anu.edu.au/fellows/jbraithwaite/_documents/Articles/1975_Population%20Growth%20and%20Crime.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwim6KjLgd3jAhVJhOAKHZvLAAEQFjAEegQIDxAL&usg=AOvVaw0jAKpbodiXd1i0oRy_LROh

And?

That is your reply? And?

I guess I will intentionally mistake that for a lack of a cogent response or counterargument.

You posted a link to a paper from 1975 and literally no context. Did you want me to guess what your point is?

Could you not gather the context from the quote chain preceding my post?

No cop outs.

Your previous post was riddled with errors. Do you feel that this 1975 piece somehow validates what you said earlier? If yes, then tell me what your point is. This is basic shit man.