South Dakota Lawmaker Says Businesses Should Be Allowed To Ban Colored People

Well I wish there was never a need to pass such a law.

".... The Court said in both cases that Congress had an impressive legislative record tying racial discrimination in places of public accommodation to interstate commerce. And it flatly rejected the claim that Congress could not ban race discrimination—and enact this kind of “morals” legislation—under the Commerce Clause.

These rulings marked a revolution in the way we think about civil rights enforcement under our Constitution. They mean that Congress, through Title II, can ban any racial discrimination, even purely private racial discrimination, so long as the underlying activity substantially affects interstate commerce. And as we see from these cases, this can be nearly anything. In this way, Title II’s ban is untethered from the constraints on congressional authority under its enforcement power under the Fourteenth Amendment. In other words, Title II, or other, similar legislation based on the Commerce Clause, like Title VII, need not satisfy the state-actor requirement; indeed, it need not even address only the cramped version of equal protection that the Supreme Court has read into the Fourteenth Amendment. Title II can be broader.

Indeed, the courts have recognized this. Courts have applied Title II liberally, to effectuate the goals of Congress, including the goal to eliminate unfairness, humiliation, and insult of racial discrimination in facilities that serve the general public. As a result, courts have certainly struck private discrimination in hotels and restaurants (such as the Heart of Atlanta Motel and Ollie’s Barbecue), but they have also struck private discrimination in bars, casinos, recreational complexes, buses, and more. Title II’s enforcement mechanism allows individuals to bring a claim, and it allows the U.S. Department of Justice to bring a claim, when there is reason to believe that a person has engaged in a pattern or practice of discrimination.

In short, these rulings meant that owners of places of public accommodation could no longer discriminate with impunity. They could no longer shield themselves with the state-actor requirement in the Fourteenth Amendment. And they could no longer perpetuate the slowly dying Jim Crow, even through private (not state-sanctioned) discrimination.

But these rulings did more. They set precedent for Congress to use its entire menu of authorities, not just its enforcement power..."

Civil Rights Act of 1964: Enduring and Revolutionary
 
I see many in this thread are stuck in the 50's & 60's.
You are as much part of the problem as actual racists. Trying to apply 60 or 70 year old logic to a situation that does not apply to that logic.
 
If there is a business owner who actually doesn't want certain people, based on skin color, in their business, I want to know who and where they are, so that I don't give them my business. I also want to know who would patronize such a place, for future reference.

So yeah, go ahead and do that, and advertise it.
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LOL, that's what the left doesn't understand, the market does it....but they are statists and must have the govt telling them what to do.
 
If there is a business owner who actually doesn't want certain people, based on skin color, in their business, I want to know who and where they are, so that I don't give them my business. I also want to know who would patronize such a place, for future reference.

So yeah, go ahead and do that, and advertise it.
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The thing is, there was a time not so long ago when businesses openly advertised WHITES ONLY, and it not only did them no harm, they actually thrived.

We do not want to go backwards.
I think the best way to marginalize these cockroaches is to shine a light on them. It ain't pretty, it ain't easy, but it's better than letting them fester. It's partially what gave us TRUMP.
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What gave us Trump should inform you that we could easily return to the days of Whites Only lunch counters, and that such businesses would thrive again.

Most businesses care about only their bottom line and would not want such bad publicity anyways. Very few businesses (and no large businesses with shareholders) are going to be discriminating against anyone. That would be bad for business in today's day and age.
We have had a zillion topics about bakeries and wedding planners who won't serve gays. Those businesses have had money pouring in to help support their cause.

Their bigotry has not been bad for their businesses at all. They are held up as heroes on Fox News and all the usual pseudocon propagandists.

Anyone who doubts how easily we could revert back to the Whites Only days is willfully blind.
 
It seems that a lot of RWNJs have mis-interperted the notion that we are a 'free country' to mean that we are an anarchy.

We are not and have never been an anarchy, and our freedoms are limited by the law.

Fortunately, we have laws that limit the other laws the the government can make, but that's a long way from the anarchy that RWNJs fantasize.
 
So a sitting South Dakota lawmaker recently voiced his belief that businesses should be able to discriminate against people of color. Obviously this guy saw the recent Supreme Court ruling as a green light to go full racist -- and more and more openly racist/bigoted people are feeling more embolden to run for office (mainly as Republicans).

so my question is -- How many people here wish the Civil Rights bill was never passed?

Because essentially, to try to argue that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race is saying you are against the Civil Rights Act.

From the article:
In an interview with the Leader, Clark said he believed that business owners should be able to turn away certain customers if they would otherwise violate their religious beliefs.

"If it’s truly his strongly based belief, he should be able to turn them away," Clark told the Leader. "People shouldn’t be able to use their minority status to bully a business."


It's stunning to me that an elected state lawmaker- no matter what the state - can be so ignorant as to not know what the Civil Rights Act is and does.



I'm not surprised. It don't find it stunning at all.

I see it as typical for conservatives.

What I am is horrified that the man was elected. He will probably be reelected too.

Hate is rampant now in America. The floodgates were opened with trump and now even more with that supreme court ruling.

Discrimination to any group of people is wrong and unconstitutional.

Our supreme court ruled decades ago that if you go into business with the public then you do business with all of the public. I agree with that ruling. Everyone pays taxes. Everyone contributed to the infrastructure that the business people rely on to make money. So everyone should be included.

Things are getting very bad here in America for everyone who isn't white, male, conservative, christian and heterosexual.

We are no longer the United States of America.

You can thank the liberal media and libs for pushing this hate, bigotry, and racism. They are the party of slavery and segregation.
Hilarious. When your kind says something awful, it's always the fault of liberals.

The truth is most Republicans probably agree with him. The GOP party is 90% white. It's who they are. Steve Bannon says be proud of your racist ways. So be proud. It's easier to understand your kind when they are in their natural environment.
 
If there is a business owner who actually doesn't want certain people, based on skin color, in their business, I want to know who and where they are, so that I don't give them my business. I also want to know who would patronize such a place, for future reference.

So yeah, go ahead and do that, and advertise it.
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The thing is, there was a time not so long ago when businesses openly advertised WHITES ONLY, and it not only did them no harm, they actually thrived.

We do not want to go backwards.
I think the best way to marginalize these cockroaches is to shine a light on them. It ain't pretty, it ain't easy, but it's better than letting them fester. It's partially what gave us TRUMP.
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What gave us Trump should inform you that we could easily return to the days of Whites Only lunch counters, and that such businesses would thrive again.
I doubt it. When in doubt, I always defer to freedom of expression.

I want to know how the crazies are, and who agrees with them.
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You seem to believe knowing who the crazies are would stop them from being crazy. History refutes you soundly.

I can show you a photo of the crazies who help bigotry thrive.


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Okie doke.

I'm a strong advocate of freedom of expression, whether I like what is said, or not.
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Anyone that wishes to do business must be willing to provide services and/or goods to everyone equally.

Why? It seems more reasonable to me that a private business owner should be able to do businesses with whoever he/she chooses.

No, it's not reasonable at all. Not only does it violate the founding principals of this country, but it also destroys the very notion of the free market system.

It reeks of Naziism.
What????
isn't you guys that keep bashing America for allowing slavery?
And how does it destroy the free market system?
Racists will not hire blacks or sell to them....smart people will hire the best no matter the race and they will take anyone's money........thereby getting rich and crushing the racists.......not to mention having better workers......
 
So a sitting South Dakota lawmaker recently voiced his belief that businesses should be able to discriminate against people of color. Obviously this guy saw the recent Supreme Court ruling as a green light to go full racist -- and more and more openly racist/bigoted people are feeling more embolden to run for office (mainly as Republicans).

so my question is -- How many people here wish the Civil Rights bill was never passed?

Because essentially, to try to argue that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race is saying you are against the Civil Rights Act.

From the article:
In an interview with the Leader, Clark said he believed that business owners should be able to turn away certain customers if they would otherwise violate their religious beliefs.

"If it’s truly his strongly based belief, he should be able to turn them away," Clark told the Leader. "People shouldn’t be able to use their minority status to bully a business."


It's stunning to me that an elected state lawmaker- no matter what the state - can be so ignorant as to not know what the Civil Rights Act is and does.



I'm not surprised. It don't find it stunning at all.

I see it as typical for conservatives.

What I am is horrified that the man was elected. He will probably be reelected too.

Hate is rampant now in America. The floodgates were opened with trump and now even more with that supreme court ruling.

Discrimination to any group of people is wrong and unconstitutional.

Our supreme court ruled decades ago that if you go into business with the public then you do business with all of the public. I agree with that ruling. Everyone pays taxes. Everyone contributed to the infrastructure that the business people rely on to make money. So everyone should be included.

Things are getting very bad here in America for everyone who isn't white, male, conservative, christian and heterosexual.

We are no longer the United States of America.

You can thank the liberal media and libs for pushing this hate, bigotry, and racism. They are the party of slavery and segregation.
Hilarious. When your kind says something awful, it's always the fault of liberals.

The truth is most Republicans probably agree with him. The GOP party is 90% white. It's who they are. Steve Bannon says be proud of your racist ways. So be proud. It's easier to understand your kind when they are in their natural environment.


The truth is, if a black person says a nice thing about a republican...we see the old jim crow democrats come out in full force......you guys never left....just put on a different mask.
 
If there is a business owner who actually doesn't want certain people, based on skin color, in their business, I want to know who and where they are, so that I don't give them my business. I also want to know who would patronize such a place, for future reference.

So yeah, go ahead and do that, and advertise it.
.
The thing is, there was a time not so long ago when businesses openly advertised WHITES ONLY, and it not only did them no harm, they actually thrived.

We do not want to go backwards.
I think the best way to marginalize these cockroaches is to shine a light on them. It ain't pretty, it ain't easy, but it's better than letting them fester. It's partially what gave us TRUMP.
.
What gave us Trump should inform you that we could easily return to the days of Whites Only lunch counters, and that such businesses would thrive again.

Most businesses care about only their bottom line and would not want such bad publicity anyways. Very few businesses (and no large businesses with shareholders) are going to be discriminating against anyone. That would be bad for business in today's day and age.
We have had a zillion topics about bakeries and wedding planners who won't serve gays. Those businesses have had money pouring in to help support their cause.

Their bigotry has not been bad for their businesses at all. They are held up as heroes on Fox News and all the usual pseudocon propagandists.

Anyone who doubts how easily we could revert back to the Whites Only days is willfully blind.

If you were to live in reality ville, you would be able to see that these instances are few and far between, but the media likes to hype them up to upset people like you. MOST business owners are interested in that their customers are paying and buying something, not what their color, sex or sexual preferences.
 
So a sitting South Dakota lawmaker recently voiced his belief that businesses should be able to discriminate against people of color. Obviously this guy saw the recent Supreme Court ruling as a green light to go full racist -- and more and more openly racist/bigoted people are feeling more embolden to run for office (mainly as Republicans).

so my question is -- How many people here wish the Civil Rights bill was never passed?

Because essentially, to try to argue that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race is saying you are against the Civil Rights Act.

From the article:
In an interview with the Leader, Clark said he believed that business owners should be able to turn away certain customers if they would otherwise violate their religious beliefs.

"If it’s truly his strongly based belief, he should be able to turn them away," Clark told the Leader. "People shouldn’t be able to use their minority status to bully a business."


It's stunning to me that an elected state lawmaker- no matter what the state - can be so ignorant as to not know what the Civil Rights Act is and does.
Kansas City, a liberal city. Run by liberals. Regulated by liberals. Trys to prevent blacks from going into the nicer districts and shopping centers by using dress codes (no baggy pants, no gang colors, no bandannas, etc) and curfews for inner city blacks.

What say you?
I don't respect racists, people who try to make excuses for racists and people who are dishonest.

1. White kids wear baggy pants, bandannas, etc --- now if those dress codes are only enforced on black kids and not white kids -- that is discrimination.
2. The curfews are in 5 entertainment districts -- if that curfew is only enforced against black kids and not white kids -- that would be discrimination.

You assuming liberal politicians can't also be discriminatory is just your stupid assumption -- but as usual, your whata-boutsim failed -- and you have shown me to be one of those three classes of people I don't respect.
Those policies were put into effect SPECIFICALLY to combat a specific segment of society. Your rationalization does not dispute that fact. Blacks were causing major problems in those areas and that is how the liberal politicians tried to tackle the problem. Ignoring the fact that it applies to others despite the others not being the catalyst for the policies is nothing more than lying to yourself.
 
A lot of business owners aren't even there personally dealing with their customers. They have managers and employees that do that and they would have no idea whether or not a person was gay or not gay, black or not black, whatever the case might be. Times have changed, the way most people think has changed, the ways in which businesses are run have changed.
 
So a sitting South Dakota lawmaker recently voiced his belief that businesses should be able to discriminate against people of color. Obviously this guy saw the recent Supreme Court ruling as a green light to go full racist -- and more and more openly racist/bigoted people are feeling more embolden to run for office (mainly as Republicans).

so my question is -- How many people here wish the Civil Rights bill was never passed?

Because essentially, to try to argue that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race is saying you are against the Civil Rights Act.

From the article:
In an interview with the Leader, Clark said he believed that business owners should be able to turn away certain customers if they would otherwise violate their religious beliefs.

"If it’s truly his strongly based belief, he should be able to turn them away," Clark told the Leader. "People shouldn’t be able to use their minority status to bully a business."


It's stunning to me that an elected state lawmaker- no matter what the state - can be so ignorant as to not know what the Civil Rights Act is and does.
Who Clark? Where was your article? I see you're new. Do you know how to link an article in your post?
BTW, welcome. Good thread to start with. Have a donut.

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So a sitting South Dakota lawmaker recently voiced his belief that businesses should be able to discriminate against people of color. Obviously this guy saw the recent Supreme Court ruling as a green light to go full racist -- and more and more openly racist/bigoted people are feeling more embolden to run for office (mainly as Republicans).

so my question is -- How many people here wish the Civil Rights bill was never passed?

Because essentially, to try to argue that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race is saying you are against the Civil Rights Act.

From the article:
In an interview with the Leader, Clark said he believed that business owners should be able to turn away certain customers if they would otherwise violate their religious beliefs.

"If it’s truly his strongly based belief, he should be able to turn them away," Clark told the Leader. "People shouldn’t be able to use their minority status to bully a business."


It's stunning to me that an elected state lawmaker- no matter what the state - can be so ignorant as to not know what the Civil Rights Act is and does.
Who Clark? Where was your article? I see you're new. Do you know how to link an article in your post?
BTW, welcome. Good thread to start with. Have a donut.

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Per forum rules, I can't include links until I make a certain about of posts.
 
Question for whoever...


What would happen if we allowed people to discriminate at their private businesses?
 
So a sitting South Dakota lawmaker recently voiced his belief that businesses should be able to discriminate against people of color. Obviously this guy saw the recent Supreme Court ruling as a green light to go full racist -- and more and more openly racist/bigoted people are feeling more embolden to run for office (mainly as Republicans).

so my question is -- How many people here wish the Civil Rights bill was never passed?

Because essentially, to try to argue that businesses should be allowed to discriminate on the basis of race is saying you are against the Civil Rights Act.

From the article:
In an interview with the Leader, Clark said he believed that business owners should be able to turn away certain customers if they would otherwise violate their religious beliefs.

"If it’s truly his strongly based belief, he should be able to turn them away," Clark told the Leader. "People shouldn’t be able to use their minority status to bully a business."


It's stunning to me that an elected state lawmaker- no matter what the state - can be so ignorant as to not know what the Civil Rights Act is and does.
Kansas City, a liberal city. Run by liberals. Regulated by liberals. Trys to prevent blacks from going into the nicer districts and shopping centers by using dress codes (no baggy pants, no gang colors, no bandannas, etc) and curfews for inner city blacks.

What say you?
I don't respect racists, people who try to make excuses for racists and people who are dishonest.

1. White kids wear baggy pants, bandannas, etc --- now if those dress codes are only enforced on black kids and not white kids -- that is discrimination.
2. The curfews are in 5 entertainment districts -- if that curfew is only enforced against black kids and not white kids -- that would be discrimination.

You assuming liberal politicians can't also be discriminatory is just your stupid assumption -- but as usual, your whata-boutsim failed -- and you have shown me to be one of those three classes of people I don't respect.
Those policies were put into effect SPECIFICALLY to combat a specific segment of society. Your rationalization does not dispute that fact. Blacks were causing major problems in those areas and that is how the liberal politicians tried to tackle the problem. Ignoring the fact that it applies to others despite the others not being the catalyst for the policies is nothing more than lying to yourself.

Yea, blacks are usually the cause of most problems -- guess on second thought, we should not only discriminate against them -- but quarantine them too -- hopefully someone will be brave enough to run on that platform
 
There is no link to the post because angry lefties don't want people to see the source of the fake news. Sodomites lost the battle and now they are trying to twist it into a racial issue. It's a shame.


I have not been here long enough to be granted permission to post links -- but a second of research will show this story to be true -- but an apologist for racists such as yourself will still deflect
South Dakota lawmaker: Let businesses 'turn away people of color,' later apologizes

I forgot about the new member posting rule. Here's a link.
 

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