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'Stand with the prophet' rally comes to Texas

blah blah blah, their own koran says to kill all unbelievers who refuse to become Muslim.


The Bible also says to kill unbelievers. Your point?

Where in the NEW Testament does it say that? Your point?
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.
According to whom?
apparently you have problems understanding the synonym Christ in Christian. Christ wasn't around during the old testament. According to Christ he makes the old testament obsolete.
 
blah blah blah, their own koran says to kill all unbelievers who refuse to become Muslim.


The Bible also says to kill unbelievers. Your point?

Where in the NEW Testament does it say that? Your point?
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.

If they followed the old testament they wouldn't be "Christ"ians.
Weren't the 10 Commandments handed down in the Old Testament?
If so, don't they apply to "Christ"ians?
no they don't apply to christians. Love thy neighbor as you would love thyself does.
 
The Bible also says to kill unbelievers. Your point?

Where in the NEW Testament does it say that? Your point?
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.
According to whom?
apparently you have problems understanding the synonym Christ in Christian. Christ wasn't around during the old testament. According to Christ he makes the old testament obsolete.
So... why is it in the bible?
 
The Bible also says to kill unbelievers. Your point?

Where in the NEW Testament does it say that? Your point?
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.

If they followed the old testament they wouldn't be "Christ"ians.
Weren't the 10 Commandments handed down in the Old Testament?
If so, don't they apply to "Christ"ians?
no they don't apply to christians. Love thy neighbor as you would love thyself does.
I wonder why all those Christians try to get the 10 commandments put up in courtrooms and schools then.
 
Good for them. It's important that they represent their faith peacefully and in the open. can't believe so many of you went directly to how you could be assholes to them - or worse.

I understand why it would be hard for you, like I find it hard to believe that in a civilized society an unarmed police officer is executed while begging for their life. Lots of things I don't understand about Islam and especially those who defend it.
 
Where in the NEW Testament does it say that? Your point?
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.

If they followed the old testament they wouldn't be "Christ"ians.
Weren't the 10 Commandments handed down in the Old Testament?
If so, don't they apply to "Christ"ians?
no they don't apply to christians. Love thy neighbor as you would love thyself does.
I wonder why all those Christians try to get the 10 commandments put up in courtrooms and schools then.

Really? That is a big issue for you? Something that rarely ever happens and has never resulted in an unarmed cop being executed. Really? THAT you have a problem with? BTW the Ten Commandments is also common to Islam.
 
From the link;
“Frustrated with Islamophobes defaming the Prophet?” the event materials ask. “Fuming over extremists like ISIS who give a bad name to Islam? Remember the Danish cartoons defaming the Prophet? Or the anti-Islam film, ‘Innocence of Muslims’?”


“When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. [Islamic State] brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies,” organizers state on their website.

Also, from their website;
Isn’t it time we invested in defending our faith? Otherwise, groups like ISIS and Boko Haram will only continue to increase the media’s ammunition to incriminate Muslims.

Immediately after 9/11, only 27% of Americans held a negative opinion of Islam. Today, that number is approaching 60%. Islamophobia is turning our neighbors against us, while confusing Muslim youth about their faith; 47% of college-going Muslims end up drinking alcohol.

1,250 anti-Muslim films are repeatedly aired on American television throughout the year, in addition to the likes of Fox TV, which routinely broadcasts anti-Muslim programs and commentary. The internet is littered with anti-Muslim information, images, and videos
.

The Impact of Negative Media is Enormous on the Lives of Muslims:

  1. Muslims are the least employed, according to a Gallup Poll.
  2. Young Muslims are developing self-hate and are moving away from Islam.
  3. 50% of Arab-Americans have clinical signs of depression, according to Yale University research.
  4. More of our neighbors now hold negative opinions of Islam and Muslims, as compared to immediately after 9/11.

What will Our "Strategic Communication Centre" do for the Muslim Community and Our Neighbors?
  1. Rapid Response & Crisis Communication: When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. ISIS brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies.
  2. Do for Islam what Khan Academy has done for math and science: By producing short, seven to 10-minute lessons taught by master teachers about the basics of Islam for our children and for our neighbors.
  3. Coordinate & Serve as a Content Clearinghouse: Collect, reframe, and disseminate the existing wealth of content, and coordinate Muslim responses through Masjids, as well as regional and national organizations.
  4. Train & Build Capacity: Train 30 young Muslims a year to communicate Islamic points of view effectively.
Stand With the Prophet

It seems to me that they're wanting to present the Muslim perspective to current events.
They seem to recognise and reject the harm that extremists are doing to the perception of their faith.
blah blah blah, their own koran says to kill all unbelievers who refuse to become Muslim.
put any adulterers to death lately? banished anyone that had sex while menstruating? stoned any kids that cursed at their parents?

What are you asking? Nope none of those you claim have been put to death by Jews or Christians lately, not so much Muslims.
 
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.

If they followed the old testament they wouldn't be "Christ"ians.
Weren't the 10 Commandments handed down in the Old Testament?
If so, don't they apply to "Christ"ians?
no they don't apply to christians. Love thy neighbor as you would love thyself does.
I wonder why all those Christians try to get the 10 commandments put up in courtrooms and schools then.

Really? That is a big issue for you? Something that rarely ever happens and has never resulted in an unarmed cop being executed. Really? THAT you have a problem with? BTW the Ten Commandments is also common to Islam.
I said I wondered. And I often wonder which version too...there are at least 3 out there.
 
Good for them. It's important that they represent their faith peacefully and in the open. can't believe so many of you went directly to how you could be assholes to them - or worse.
Yeah right. They are satan worshipping murdering scum and you defend them. I hope you are being sarcastic.
 
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.

If they followed the old testament they wouldn't be "Christ"ians.
Weren't the 10 Commandments handed down in the Old Testament?
If so, don't they apply to "Christ"ians?
no they don't apply to christians. Love thy neighbor as you would love thyself does.
I wonder why all those Christians try to get the 10 commandments put up in courtrooms and schools then.

Really? That is a big issue for you? Something that rarely ever happens and has never resulted in an unarmed cop being executed. Really? THAT you have a problem with? BTW the Ten Commandments is also common to Islam.

You seem to have missed the point.

If the Old Testament is so "obsolete" and "irrelevant", what then, is so significant about the Ten Commandments, that they must be stressed over and over again, while Leviticus and Deuteronomy go ignored?

Christians always pick and choose which Bible verses they Will to incorporate into and support their spiritual/ religious system and weltanschauung... drawing inspiration from the New Testament as well as the Old Testament.

Which would be awesome... except that so many Christians choose not to respect a Muslim's choice to do the same with the Quran.

Have you not the ability to see how hypocritical that is?

 
From the link;
“Frustrated with Islamophobes defaming the Prophet?” the event materials ask. “Fuming over extremists like ISIS who give a bad name to Islam? Remember the Danish cartoons defaming the Prophet? Or the anti-Islam film, ‘Innocence of Muslims’?”


“When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. [Islamic State] brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies,” organizers state on their website.

Also, from their website;
Isn’t it time we invested in defending our faith? Otherwise, groups like ISIS and Boko Haram will only continue to increase the media’s ammunition to incriminate Muslims.

Immediately after 9/11, only 27% of Americans held a negative opinion of Islam. Today, that number is approaching 60%. Islamophobia is turning our neighbors against us, while confusing Muslim youth about their faith; 47% of college-going Muslims end up drinking alcohol.

1,250 anti-Muslim films are repeatedly aired on American television throughout the year, in addition to the likes of Fox TV, which routinely broadcasts anti-Muslim programs and commentary. The internet is littered with anti-Muslim information, images, and videos
.

The Impact of Negative Media is Enormous on the Lives of Muslims:

  1. Muslims are the least employed, according to a Gallup Poll.
  2. Young Muslims are developing self-hate and are moving away from Islam.
  3. 50% of Arab-Americans have clinical signs of depression, according to Yale University research.
  4. More of our neighbors now hold negative opinions of Islam and Muslims, as compared to immediately after 9/11.

What will Our "Strategic Communication Centre" do for the Muslim Community and Our Neighbors?
  1. Rapid Response & Crisis Communication: When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. ISIS brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies.
  2. Do for Islam what Khan Academy has done for math and science: By producing short, seven to 10-minute lessons taught by master teachers about the basics of Islam for our children and for our neighbors.
  3. Coordinate & Serve as a Content Clearinghouse: Collect, reframe, and disseminate the existing wealth of content, and coordinate Muslim responses through Masjids, as well as regional and national organizations.
  4. Train & Build Capacity: Train 30 young Muslims a year to communicate Islamic points of view effectively.
Stand With the Prophet

It seems to me that they're wanting to present the Muslim perspective to current events.
They seem to recognise and reject the harm that extremists are doing to the perception of their faith.
blah blah blah, their own koran says to kill all unbelievers who refuse to become Muslim.
Can you quote the passage from the Koran?

Before you start quoting OT passages, remember the passages in the OT must be read with the historical perspective in mind. The Quran on the other hand is open ended.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Sura 8:55"To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" ()


Oh there is a whole lot more but I don't think it would matter if more were posted.
 
Muslim leaders from across America will gather in Texas this weekend to hold the annual Stand With the Prophet in Honor and Respect conference, a weekend forum that is being billed as a “movement to defend Prophet Muhammad, his person, and his message,” according to event information.
The Saturday event, which seeks to combat “Islamophobes in America” who have turned the Islamic Prophet Muhammad “into an object of hate,” according to organizers, comes just a week after radicalized Islamists in France killed 17 people.
The victims died in events that began with the shooting attack on French newspaper Charlie Hebdo for its satirical cartoons that skewered the prophet.
How do you like the new Muslim States of America???
In Europe people protest against Islamization. In America muslims are allowed to gather and discuss their future strategy of jihad. Something is going wrong...
Muslim Leaders to Hold Stand with the Prophet Rally in Texas Washington Free Beacon
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We need to line up around the outskirts of their rally holding up pics of Muhammad in diapers or with that bomb in his head. See how peaceful they are then.

A picture of muhammad in a jar of urine.
 
From the link;
“Frustrated with Islamophobes defaming the Prophet?” the event materials ask. “Fuming over extremists like ISIS who give a bad name to Islam? Remember the Danish cartoons defaming the Prophet? Or the anti-Islam film, ‘Innocence of Muslims’?”


“When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. [Islamic State] brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies,” organizers state on their website.

Also, from their website;
Isn’t it time we invested in defending our faith? Otherwise, groups like ISIS and Boko Haram will only continue to increase the media’s ammunition to incriminate Muslims.

Immediately after 9/11, only 27% of Americans held a negative opinion of Islam. Today, that number is approaching 60%. Islamophobia is turning our neighbors against us, while confusing Muslim youth about their faith; 47% of college-going Muslims end up drinking alcohol.

1,250 anti-Muslim films are repeatedly aired on American television throughout the year, in addition to the likes of Fox TV, which routinely broadcasts anti-Muslim programs and commentary. The internet is littered with anti-Muslim information, images, and videos
.

The Impact of Negative Media is Enormous on the Lives of Muslims:

  1. Muslims are the least employed, according to a Gallup Poll.
  2. Young Muslims are developing self-hate and are moving away from Islam.
  3. 50% of Arab-Americans have clinical signs of depression, according to Yale University research.
  4. More of our neighbors now hold negative opinions of Islam and Muslims, as compared to immediately after 9/11.

What will Our "Strategic Communication Centre" do for the Muslim Community and Our Neighbors?
  1. Rapid Response & Crisis Communication: When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. ISIS brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies.
  2. Do for Islam what Khan Academy has done for math and science: By producing short, seven to 10-minute lessons taught by master teachers about the basics of Islam for our children and for our neighbors.
  3. Coordinate & Serve as a Content Clearinghouse: Collect, reframe, and disseminate the existing wealth of content, and coordinate Muslim responses through Masjids, as well as regional and national organizations.
  4. Train & Build Capacity: Train 30 young Muslims a year to communicate Islamic points of view effectively.
Stand With the Prophet

It seems to me that they're wanting to present the Muslim perspective to current events.
They seem to recognise and reject the harm that extremists are doing to the perception of their faith.
blah blah blah, their own koran says to kill all unbelievers who refuse to become Muslim.
Can you quote the passage from the Koran?

Before you start quoting OT passages, remember the passages in the OT must be read with the historical perspective in mind. The Quran on the other hand is open ended.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Sura 8:55"To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" ()


Oh there is a whole lot more but I don't think it would matter if more were posted.

Well considering that Allah= God= YHWH, it is of no coincidence that two Holy Books devoted to the same supreme deity would have so much in common.

 
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The Bible also says to kill unbelievers. Your point?

Where in the NEW Testament does it say that? Your point?
oh i see. because it's your faith you get to decide which verses carry weight and which do not. weird.
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.
According to whom?
apparently you have problems understanding the synonym Christ in Christian. Christ wasn't around during the old testament. According to Christ he makes the old testament obsolete.
you don't know what a synonym is, do you?
 
From the link;
“Frustrated with Islamophobes defaming the Prophet?” the event materials ask. “Fuming over extremists like ISIS who give a bad name to Islam? Remember the Danish cartoons defaming the Prophet? Or the anti-Islam film, ‘Innocence of Muslims’?”


“When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. [Islamic State] brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies,” organizers state on their website.

Also, from their website;
Isn’t it time we invested in defending our faith? Otherwise, groups like ISIS and Boko Haram will only continue to increase the media’s ammunition to incriminate Muslims.

Immediately after 9/11, only 27% of Americans held a negative opinion of Islam. Today, that number is approaching 60%. Islamophobia is turning our neighbors against us, while confusing Muslim youth about their faith; 47% of college-going Muslims end up drinking alcohol.

1,250 anti-Muslim films are repeatedly aired on American television throughout the year, in addition to the likes of Fox TV, which routinely broadcasts anti-Muslim programs and commentary. The internet is littered with anti-Muslim information, images, and videos
.

The Impact of Negative Media is Enormous on the Lives of Muslims:

  1. Muslims are the least employed, according to a Gallup Poll.
  2. Young Muslims are developing self-hate and are moving away from Islam.
  3. 50% of Arab-Americans have clinical signs of depression, according to Yale University research.
  4. More of our neighbors now hold negative opinions of Islam and Muslims, as compared to immediately after 9/11.

What will Our "Strategic Communication Centre" do for the Muslim Community and Our Neighbors?
  1. Rapid Response & Crisis Communication: When real events warrant, like the Danish Cartoon controversy, Sharia ban, Quran burning, Boko Haram kidnappings. ISIS brutality, etc., we articulate fresh talking points and content quickly, and in a timely manner, working with professionals to disseminate it through community spokespersons and our allies.
  2. Do for Islam what Khan Academy has done for math and science: By producing short, seven to 10-minute lessons taught by master teachers about the basics of Islam for our children and for our neighbors.
  3. Coordinate & Serve as a Content Clearinghouse: Collect, reframe, and disseminate the existing wealth of content, and coordinate Muslim responses through Masjids, as well as regional and national organizations.
  4. Train & Build Capacity: Train 30 young Muslims a year to communicate Islamic points of view effectively.
Stand With the Prophet

It seems to me that they're wanting to present the Muslim perspective to current events.
They seem to recognise and reject the harm that extremists are doing to the perception of their faith.
blah blah blah, their own koran says to kill all unbelievers who refuse to become Muslim.
Can you quote the passage from the Koran?

Before you start quoting OT passages, remember the passages in the OT must be read with the historical perspective in mind. The Quran on the other hand is open ended.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Sura 8:55"To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" ()


Oh there is a whole lot more but I don't think it would matter if more were posted.
so your holy text is a product of its time, but the quaran is not?
 
um, no. Since the birth of Christ the old testament is obsolete and only the new testament is followed.

If they followed the old testament they wouldn't be "Christ"ians.
Weren't the 10 Commandments handed down in the Old Testament?
If so, don't they apply to "Christ"ians?
no they don't apply to christians. Love thy neighbor as you would love thyself does.
I wonder why all those Christians try to get the 10 commandments put up in courtrooms and schools then.

Really? That is a big issue for you? Something that rarely ever happens and has never resulted in an unarmed cop being executed. Really? THAT you have a problem with? BTW the Ten Commandments is also common to Islam.

You seem to have missed the point.

If the Old Testament is so "obsolete" and "irrelevant", what then, is so significant about the Ten Commandments, that they must be stressed over and over again, while Leviticus and Deuteronomy go ignored?

Christians always pick and choose which Bible verses they Will to incorporate into and support their spiritual/ religious system and weltanschauung... drawing inspiration from the New Testament as well as the Old Testament.

Which would be awesome... except that so many Christians choose not to respect a Muslim's choice to do the same with the Quran.

Have you not the ability to see how hypocritical that is?


I can't speak for the person who posted that, i think they mis-stated the position. I won't do a very good job off the cuff but let me explain what I think the poster meant and the difference between modern Christianity and Islam.

First of all there are many laws written within the OT, many. There are three types of laws written into the OT,
Civil laws, which dealt with the culture of the Jewish community.

Ceremonial laws, which deal with the customs of the nations.

Third, are God’s moral laws. these include justice, respect and sexual conduct. All people are still accountable to these moral laws. 1 Corinthians 6:9-119: 9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

As 1 Corinthians teaches the Ten Commandments are as relavant today as they were 2000 years ago as are all of God's moral law. What happened to the rest? Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them..

So when we look at the OT we look at it in a historical perspective, in other words many of the laws were written for the time and do not apply. the Quran on the other hand is open ended.

But your are right, I missed the context.
 

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