Stunning Photos of Deliriously Happy New Dads Is Perfect Response to Anti-Gay Activis

The article doesn't go into details about everything, so we don't know if the surrogate nursed. It is possible to use donor milk though. Donor milk is thoroughly tested and is pasteurized.
At any rate, newborn babies are happier making skin-to-skin contact with mothers - even surrogate mothers, I would guess - than with men.

If I were gay, I would think of the baby, leave it with its mother, and adopt an older child who would be happy with me.

That way, we would know that everyone is happy.


Your evidence to back up this completely stupid and unfounded claim?
Yes, newborns prefer skin-toskin contact with men over such contact with women.

Ya' got me there. Your evidence must be right at your fingertips, is it? Ready to share?
 
At any rate, newborn babies are happier making skin-to-skin contact with mothers - even surrogate mothers, I would guess - than with men.

If I were gay, I would think of the baby, leave it with its mother, and adopt an older child who would be happy with me.

That way, we would know that everyone is happy.


Your evidence to back up this completely stupid and unfounded claim?
Yes, newborns prefer skin-toskin contact with men over such contact with women.

Ya' got me there. Your evidence must be right at your fingertips, is it? Ready to share?

You really think babies can distinguish gender by skin contact? Obviously it doesn't matter, it's the skin to skin contact that is beneficial. Honestly.
 
You don't really deserve any better than that. Deal with it.

You shouldn't lash out at people because you're ignorant about international human rights law.

:lol: Right...you're making the claim that gay parenting is a violation of "international human rights laws" and he's the one that's ignorant? That is to laugh.

I have UN treaties on my side. What do you have on yours other than ignorant blather?
 
You shouldn't lash out at people because you're ignorant about international human rights law.

:lol: Right...you're making the claim that gay parenting is a violation of "international human rights laws" and he's the one that's ignorant? That is to laugh.

I have UN treaties on my side. What do you have on yours other than ignorant blather?

:lol: No you don't...but keep claiming you do, it's funny as hell.
 
:lol: Right...you're making the claim that gay parenting is a violation of "international human rights laws" and he's the one that's ignorant? That is to laugh.

I have UN treaties on my side. What do you have on yours other than ignorant blather?

:lol: No you don't...but keep claiming you do, it's funny as hell.

I just told you that I do. I know the topic. You don't. France upheld it's law based on adherence to the principles of the UN Treaty.
 
Your evidence to back up this completely stupid and unfounded claim?
Yes, newborns prefer skin-toskin contact with men over such contact with women.

Ya' got me there. Your evidence must be right at your fingertips, is it? Ready to share?

You really think babies can distinguish gender by skin contact? Obviously it doesn't matter, it's the skin to skin contact that is beneficial. Honestly.
Obviously, it doesn't matter? You know this how? Because you talked to a lot of newborns?
 
I have UN treaties on my side. What do you have on yours other than ignorant blather?

:lol: No you don't...but keep claiming you do, it's funny as hell.

I just told you that I do. I know the topic. You don't. France upheld it's law based on adherence to the principles of the UN Treaty.

Gay parenting does not violate "international human rights law". God, where do you people get this shit, I swear?
 
Yes, newborns prefer skin-toskin contact with men over such contact with women.

Ya' got me there. Your evidence must be right at your fingertips, is it? Ready to share?

You really think babies can distinguish gender by skin contact? Obviously it doesn't matter, it's the skin to skin contact that is beneficial. Honestly.
Obviously, it doesn't matter? You know this how? Because you talked to a lot of newborns?

You really think that the baby can distinguish the difference in the gender of the skin they are in contact with? Seriously, what planet do you all come from?
 
You really think babies can distinguish gender by skin contact? Obviously it doesn't matter, it's the skin to skin contact that is beneficial. Honestly.
Obviously, it doesn't matter? You know this how? Because you talked to a lot of newborns?

You really think that the baby can distinguish the difference in the gender of the skin they are in contact with? Seriously, what planet do you all come from?
You think they can't? What planet are YOU from?
 
:lol: No you don't...but keep claiming you do, it's funny as hell.

I just told you that I do. I know the topic. You don't. France upheld it's law based on adherence to the principles of the UN Treaty.

Gay parenting does not violate "international human rights law". God, where do you people get this shit, I swear?

Moonglow wisely ran away from engaging because she probably saw the trap. You seem hellbent on raising the ante with your bad hand, so I'll string you along. Answer the following:

Tell me, what is wrong with this scenario - a pregnant couple arrives at the maternity ward to deliver and after the baby is born the hospital randomly assigns a baby to the parents.

We know that these mistaken baby incidents have happened and that there have been lawsuits and big awards. What was the harm at the center of the lawsuits?
 
Obviously, it doesn't matter? You know this how? Because you talked to a lot of newborns?

You really think that the baby can distinguish the difference in the gender of the skin they are in contact with? Seriously, what planet do you all come from?
You think they can't? What planet are YOU from?

No, I don't think a newborn can distinguish the gender of the person they are in skin to skin contact with. Nothing I've read says that the skin has to be female.

The two parents of the newborn in the OP were doing the right thing in skin to skin bonding with THEIR baby. Anyone trying to see more into it than that is a disgusting pig that shouldn't be allowed in public because of the way their mind thinks.
 
I just told you that I do. I know the topic. You don't. France upheld it's law based on adherence to the principles of the UN Treaty.

Gay parenting does not violate "international human rights law". God, where do you people get this shit, I swear?

Moonglow wisely ran away from engaging because she probably saw the trap. You seem hellbent on raising the ante with your bad hand, so I'll string you along. Answer the following:

Tell me, what is wrong with this scenario - a pregnant couple arrives at the maternity ward to deliver and after the baby is born the hospital randomly assigns a baby to the parents.

We know that these mistaken baby incidents have happened and that there have been lawsuits and big awards. What was the harm at the center of the lawsuits?

What are you talking about and what does it have to do with the lie you are telling about gay parenting being a violation of international "human rights law"? :lol:
 
Not people who understand that skin to skin bonding is good for the baby, no.

it's child molestation and these perverts couldn't even wait to get home to start in. America is even sicker than i thought.

Youre kind of an idiot (in my opinion)

Very happy for the parents. I wish the family a very long and happy life.

No...he is way more than "kind of" an idiot. He's a Grade-AAA kookburger, dumb as rat shit and nuttier than a sack of cashews!
 
There always has to exist a hierarchy of principles.

It's great that these two men are happy.

It's wrong that their happiness is bought at the raping of the human rights of the child.

Parental happiness should NEVER be purchased at the expense of the human rights of the child.

Simple as that.

15 studies find gay parents as good as straight parents:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/514477

Oct. 13, 2005 (Washington) — An analysis of multiple studies of 500 households shows that rearing children in a same-sex household does not affect the their self-esteem, gender identity, or emotional health, a Boston researcher reported.

"Pediatricians need to recognize that there are variations in families and learn what kind of advice to give them to optimize the child's development," said Ellen Perrin, MD, professor of pediatrics at Tufts-New England Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts.

The researcher and colleagues looked at data from 15 studies evaluating possible stigma, teasing, social isolation, adjustment, sexual orientation, and strengths. The findings were presented here at the American Academy of Pediatrics National Conference and Exhibition.

"The vast consensus of the studies is that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way," Dr. Perrin said. "In some ways, children of same-sex parents actually may have advantages over other family structures."

It has been estimated that one to six million children are being reared by committed lesbian or gay couples in this country. Some children were born to a heterosexual couple and later raised by a same-sex couple; others were placed in foster homes, were adopted, or conceived through a surrogate mother through artificial insemination.

Previous studies of same-sex parenting have been criticized for being biased, but Dr. Perrin said the research team was extremely careful to select only solid, evidence-based research for review.

Based on nine studies from 1981 to 1994 of 260 children, aged three to 11 years, reared by either heterosexual mothers or same sex-mothers after divorce, the researchers found there was no difference in intelligence of the children, type or prevalence of psychiatric disorders, self-esteem, well-being, peer relationships, or parental stress. "The children all had a similar emotional experiences with divorce," she said.

What they did find was that after divorce children being reared by lesbian mothers had more contact with fathers than children reared by divorced heterosexual mothers, Dr. Perrin said. "There are interesting suggestions that these children are more tolerant of differences."

A separate longitudinal study of 37 children of 27 divorced lesbian mothers and an equal number of children with divorced heterosexual mothers found no differences in behavior, adjustment, gender identity, and peer relationships.

"What is exciting about this study was that they followed the children 11 years later when they became adults," Dr. Perrin said. "But they still found no difference in adjustment, self-esteem, psychiatric or psychological problems, family relationships, or in identifying sexual orientation."

Four other large studies of more than 100 couples that evaluated children either born or adopted into families found that same-sex parents were more likely to have contact with extended family for social support as well as a more equal division of labor in the home. However, children of same-sex parents did experience some stigmatization.

"The researchers found no differences in the parents other than that lesbian couples share household and child care tasks more equitably," said Dr. Perrin. "The children of lesbian couples also appeared to be less aggressive, more nurturing to peers, more tolerant of diversity, and more androgynous," playing with toys for both boys and girls.

A further analysis of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health used randomly selected representative data from 44 adolescents aged 12 to 18 years. The study compared children living with two women in a "marriage-like" relationship to teenagers living with two heterosexual parents.

The study showed that the adolescents were similar in intrapersonal adjustments such as self-esteem, depression, and anxiety. They also were similar in school success, family relationships, and neighborhood integration, Dr. Perrin said.

"What is striking is that there are very consistent findings in these studies," she concluded. "But further study conducted in a long-term systematic manner in community samples needs to be conducted."

Dr. Perrin pointed out that "as pediatricians we have a lot of different kinds of roles. We need to be extremely careful about confidentiality with these families and assure them that their family constellation won't be broadcast. This will give us a better chance of learning more about the family and providing needed advice and discussing some of the issues."

"This is valuable information," Carol Berkowitz, MD, told Medscape. She is the immediate past president of the AAP and professor and executive vice chair in the Department of Pediatrics at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center in Torrance, California. "This subject evokes a lot of emotions that have influenced some studies. Some studies in the past were weighted based on nothing more than their own views."

The value of this presentation is these are all evidence-based studies, Dr. Berkowitz said, adding this information will help pediatricians in their practices and for setting policy.

AAP 2005 National Conference and Exhibition: Concurrent Seminar F340. Presented Oct. 10, 2005.

Good for them.

Btw Silhouettes been jizzing himself over that photo.

Yes he has...he's so beside himself he keeps posting it as a picture of a gay pride parade. :lol:

You don't really deserve any better than that. Deal with it.

You shouldn't lash out at people because you're ignorant about international human rights law.

:lol: Right...you're making the claim that gay parenting is a violation of "international human rights laws" and he's the one that's ignorant? That is to laugh.

International human rights law? On what planet? A child has loving parents, in case some overlooked the fact, some DO NOT. And to suggest parents have children to molest them is.....DISTURBED.
 
You really think that the baby can distinguish the difference in the gender of the skin they are in contact with? Seriously, what planet do you all come from?
You think they can't? What planet are YOU from?

No, I don't think a newborn can distinguish the gender of the person they are in skin to skin contact with. Nothing I've read says that the skin has to be female.

The two parents of the newborn in the OP were doing the right thing in skin to skin bonding with THEIR baby. Anyone trying to see more into it than that is a disgusting pig that shouldn't be allowed in public because of the way their mind thinks.
Well, what you think doesn't matter, except that you would deprive newborn babies of their utmost happiness. Newborn babies are happiest with their mothers.

Certainly some newborns have not had the benifit of their mothers' voices, caresses, breasts, etc., but nature takes its course. Intentionally subjecting babies to this deprivation is not natural.
 
You think they can't? What planet are YOU from?

No, I don't think a newborn can distinguish the gender of the person they are in skin to skin contact with. Nothing I've read says that the skin has to be female.

The two parents of the newborn in the OP were doing the right thing in skin to skin bonding with THEIR baby. Anyone trying to see more into it than that is a disgusting pig that shouldn't be allowed in public because of the way their mind thinks.
Well, what you think doesn't matter, except that you would deprive newborn babies of their utmost happiness. Newborn babies are happiest with their mothers.

Certainly some newborns have not had the benifit of their mothers' voices, caresses, breasts, etc., but nature takes its course. Intentionally subjecting babies to this deprivation is not natural.

Actually, all studies show that children of gays are at no disadvantage to children of heterosexuals. Children need parents who love them, preferably two parents. With the exception of lactation, gender is immaterial in parenting.
 
I've seen a few births and not one of the men were ever stripped to the waist. Those kids were just fine.


I find it creepy.

Just as an aside I wonder what the breast feeding police are thinking. It's another one of those liberal dilemmas I guess.
I don't get what is creepy about it.

Any busybody thinking that they need to tell people how to live, be it about best feeding or anything else really needs to get a life.

Busybody? So now being opposed to child molestation is being a busybody? get help please.
The child is far more likely to be molested by heterosexuals.
 
What was "stunning" about the photo?

I personally think all birth photos are stunning. I love babies and I'd love to be a midwife or a doula.
Pregnancy and birth is the most commonplace of miracles.
 

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