Teacher Demands Her Students Deny the Existence of God

Christians would say that God gives people and Satan freedom, and they use their freedom to do evil. Giving freedom is not a bad thing to do. Our suffering helps us grow and is cut short by our death and (hopefully) entrance into Heaven.
That's the dogma and doesn't explain the problem of evil at all, since so much evil is natural...
Christians could say natural evil is caused by Satan. Other religions have similar explanations.
Nonsense. Satan has nothing against animals, babies, etc.
Not really.

Man guilty in savage satanic murder of 15-year-old girl

BBC NEWS | Europe | Italian 'Beasts of Satan' jailed

'Craigslist killer' claims to have slain dozens as part of satanic cult: report

BBC News | EUROPE | Satanists killed man 'on Devil's orders'

Wow, I had no idea this sort of thing was so widespread!
4 stories worldwide from 2002 to 2014.

So widespread....
There's more: 10 Horrific Acts of Satanic Cults

Have you ever heard of these Satanic murders? I thought this kind of thing was a product of Janet Reno's imagination.

Allegations of ritual abuse of children at the Country Walk service in Miami
 
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Because it's ridiculous.
Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?
I am an agnostic regarding things like ghosts, ESP, UFOs - aren't you? I don't rule them out entirely.
But why don't you believe in them? Can't disprove them...
I never made this argument.
Didn't you say it was incumbent upon the atheist to disprove god
Not the same thing.
 
Most atheists simply look around at the world and the madness and evil and tragedy that God allows, and decide that any God who actually cared for humanity would never allow such a thing. The Problem of Evil is what turns people against God. See: Jews in Concentration Camps.
Christians would say that God gives people and Satan freedom, and they use their freedom to do evil. Giving freedom is not a bad thing to do. Our suffering helps us grow and is cut short by our death and (hopefully) entrance into Heaven.
That's the dogma and doesn't explain the problem of evil at all, since so much evil is natural...
Christians could say natural evil is caused by Satan. Other religions have similar explanations.
Nonsense. Satan has nothing against animals, babies, etc.
Not really.

Man guilty in savage satanic murder of 15-year-old girl

BBC NEWS | Europe | Italian 'Beasts of Satan' jailed

'Craigslist killer' claims to have slain dozens as part of satanic cult: report

BBC News | EUROPE | Satanists killed man 'on Devil's orders'

Wow, I had no idea this sort of thing was so widespread!
That's not Satan, just mankind, looking for an excuse, as usual.
 
Because it's ridiculous.
Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?
I am an agnostic regarding things like ghosts, ESP, UFOs - aren't you? I don't rule them out entirely.
But why don't you believe in them? Can't disprove them...
I never made this argument.
Didn't you say it was incumbent upon the atheist to disprove god
Not the same thing.
Explain the difference
 
Christians would say that God gives people and Satan freedom, and they use their freedom to do evil. Giving freedom is not a bad thing to do. Our suffering helps us grow and is cut short by our death and (hopefully) entrance into Heaven.
That's the dogma and doesn't explain the problem of evil at all, since so much evil is natural...
Christians could say natural evil is caused by Satan. Other religions have similar explanations.
Nonsense. Satan has nothing against animals, babies, etc.
Not really.

Man guilty in savage satanic murder of 15-year-old girl

BBC NEWS | Europe | Italian 'Beasts of Satan' jailed

'Craigslist killer' claims to have slain dozens as part of satanic cult: report

BBC News | EUROPE | Satanists killed man 'on Devil's orders'

Wow, I had no idea this sort of thing was so widespread!
That's not Satan, just mankind, looking for an excuse, as usual.
How do you know that?
 
That's the dogma and doesn't explain the problem of evil at all, since so much evil is natural...
Christians could say natural evil is caused by Satan. Other religions have similar explanations.
Nonsense. Satan has nothing against animals, babies, etc.
Not really.

Man guilty in savage satanic murder of 15-year-old girl

BBC NEWS | Europe | Italian 'Beasts of Satan' jailed

'Craigslist killer' claims to have slain dozens as part of satanic cult: report

BBC News | EUROPE | Satanists killed man 'on Devil's orders'

Wow, I had no idea this sort of thing was so widespread!
That's not Satan, just mankind, looking for an excuse, as usual.
How do you know that?
Because there is no more proof of Satan than God. Both just the creations of the minds of men, Thor and whatever his counterpart is...
 
The all-Republican Texas Supreme Court will decide whether homeschooling families must teach educational basics to their children or be allowed to wait for the second coming of Jesus Christ.
What a biased article! Just accusations from a possibly disgruntled relative.
 
That's the dogma and doesn't explain the problem of evil at all, since so much evil is natural...
Christians could say natural evil is caused by Satan. Other religions have similar explanations.
Nonsense. Satan has nothing against animals, babies, etc.
Not really.

Man guilty in savage satanic murder of 15-year-old girl

BBC NEWS | Europe | Italian 'Beasts of Satan' jailed

'Craigslist killer' claims to have slain dozens as part of satanic cult: report

BBC News | EUROPE | Satanists killed man 'on Devil's orders'

Wow, I had no idea this sort of thing was so widespread!
4 stories worldwide from 2002 to 2014.

So widespread....
There's more: 10 Horrific Acts of Satanic Cults

Have you ever heard of these Satanic murders? I thought this kind of thing was a product of Janet Reno's imagination.

Allegations of ritual abuse of children at the Country Walk service in Miami
You left out the Manhattan Beach Child Care Center.
 
Christians would say that God gives people and Satan freedom, and they use their freedom to do evil. Giving freedom is not a bad thing to do. Our suffering helps us grow and is cut short by our death and (hopefully) entrance into Heaven.
That's the dogma and doesn't explain the problem of evil at all, since so much evil is natural...
Christians could say natural evil is caused by Satan. Other religions have similar explanations.
Nonsense. Satan has nothing against animals, babies, etc.
Not really.

Man guilty in savage satanic murder of 15-year-old girl

BBC NEWS | Europe | Italian 'Beasts of Satan' jailed

'Craigslist killer' claims to have slain dozens as part of satanic cult: report

BBC News | EUROPE | Satanists killed man 'on Devil's orders'

Wow, I had no idea this sort of thing was so widespread!
That's not Satan, just mankind, looking for an excuse, as usual.

An excuse. Yes. Does Satan make people lie. Like the OP did? SatanSpawn I tell ya, SatanSpawn!

 
Design
Robert Frost, 1874 - 1963

I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches’ broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.

What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.

Design | Academy of American Poets
 
Design
Robert Frost, 1874 - 1963

I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches’ broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.

What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.

Design | Academy of American Poets
What's this?

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To a rational mind it's some lines and dots. To your mind, it's a horse. Your mind imposes its own reality instead of dealing with what is reality, which is why you believe in design, and a designer known as God.
 
Design
Robert Frost, 1874 - 1963

I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches’ broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.

What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.

Design | Academy of American Poets
What's this?

3174bac2525a57ea7559530ebeab7cf1.gif

To a rational mind it's some lines and dots. To your mind, it's a horse. Your mind imposes its own reality instead of dealing with what is reality, which is why you believe in design, and a designer known as God.
Maybe you are trying to impose your beliefs on reality.

The universe can be described by elegant equations. Those equations would hold true even if there were no human minds to notice the equations.

Here's theoretical physicist Antony Garrett Lisi: The only thing that makes sense is if the universe is beautiful and simple and elegant.

Albert Einstein: I have deep faith that the principle of the universe will be beautiful and simple.
 
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Design
Robert Frost, 1874 - 1963

I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches’ broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.

What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.

Design | Academy of American Poets
What's this?

3174bac2525a57ea7559530ebeab7cf1.gif

To a rational mind it's some lines and dots. To your mind, it's a horse. Your mind imposes its own reality instead of dealing with what is reality, which is why you believe in design, and a designer known as God.
The universe can be described by elegant equations. Those equations would hold true even if there were no human minds to notice the equations.
The universe we cannot even begin understand. At the very small or the very large our math falls apart. It's good enough to get us to the moon and back, but not good for much beyond that. Regardless, just because we can make the math work doesn't mean the universe was created.
 
Design
Robert Frost, 1874 - 1963

I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches’ broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.

What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.

Design | Academy of American Poets
What's this?

3174bac2525a57ea7559530ebeab7cf1.gif

To a rational mind it's some lines and dots. To your mind, it's a horse. Your mind imposes its own reality instead of dealing with what is reality, which is why you believe in design, and a designer known as God.
Maybe you are trying to impose your beliefs on reality.

The universe can be described by elegant equations. Those equations would hold true even if there were no human minds to notice the equations.

Here's theoretical physicist Antony Garrett Lisi: The only thing that makes sense is if the universe is beautiful and simple and elegant.

Albert Einstein: I have deep faith that the principle of the universe will be beautiful and simple.

The standard model is not elegant.
 

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