Ted Cruz: 2nd Amendment Is 'Ultimate Check Against Government Tyranny'

[Statistikhengst]

So, just to record for history:

Ted Cruz says in his candidacy speech that he would outlaw Obamacare on "Day 1" per executive order. Lol.

The next day, we discover he has enrolled in Obamacare.



Now, Ted Cruz talks about the 2nd amendment supporting an armed insurrection against the US Government.

The very government, of which HE wants to be president.



And then Righties wonder why he's trailing Hillary by -15 in Ohio and by -20 in Wisconsin.

Gee, I wonder why....

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[Statistikhengst]

Bet that title got your attention.

It may seem like fiction, but it's not. Ted Cruz just said that.

Ted Cruz 2nd Amendment Is Ultimate Check Against Government Tyranny

Hmmmmm, interesting.

A declared presidential candidate who is for armed insurrection.


Hmmmmmmm, interesting.

Ted Cruz says that this 2nd Amendment remedy is for the protection of Liberty.

I wonder how he would exactly define "Liberty".

Either way, I think he just won the "We came unarmed --- this time" crowd.

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Discuss. Is this maybe a bit extreme, or is this the necessary fight against the ebbil ebbil gubbermint?

Armed Insurrection rests as the Foundation of American Principle.

If you had the slightest kinship with America... you'd have known that.

If you had the slightest grip on history, you would know that the last armed insurrection was called the Civil War and it did not go well.

Try again, this time with some intelligence.

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I JUST ran your signature on my search engine. I'm DONE talking to you.

My sig file in USMB made you mad? As in Mad Cow disease? Ok.... [emoji38]

It always humors me to find how Righties get all personal when they get mad. Like a bunch of little kids.

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This .... תיקון עולם, baby, תיקון עולם under your screen name not siggy sorry. Tell the good folks what that says. Or they can Google it.

They already know. It means TIKKUN OLAM. A Jewish principle of repairing the world through good deeds and showing loving kindness towards our neighbors is something that disturbs you? Because that's what TIKKUN OLAM means. Or do you just hate Judaism in general, great-grandpa?

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[DarkFury]

Armed Insurrection rests as the Foundation of American Principle.

If you had the slightest kinship with America... you'd have known that.

If you had the slightest grip on history, you would know that the last armed insurrection was called the Civil War and it did not go well.

Try again, this time with some intelligence.

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I JUST ran your signature on my search engine. I'm DONE talking to you.

My sig file in USMB made you mad? As in Mad Cow disease? Ok.... [emoji38]

It always humors me to find how Righties get all personal when they get mad. Like a bunch of little kids.

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This .... תיקון עולם, baby, תיקון עולם under your screen name not siggy sorry. Tell the good folks what that says. Or they can Google it.

They already know. It means TIKKUN OLAM. A Jewish principle of repairing the world through good deeds and showing loving kindness towards our neighbors is something that disturbs you? Because that's what TIKKUN OLAM means. Or do you just hate Judaism in general, great-grandpa?

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They can put it in their search engine. YOU I want NOTHING to do with. Good Bye.

 

[Statistikhengst]

If you had the slightest grip on history, you would know that the last armed insurrection was called the Civil War and it did not go well.

Try again, this time with some intelligence.

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I JUST ran your signature on my search engine. I'm DONE talking to you.

My sig file in USMB made you mad? As in Mad Cow disease? Ok.... [emoji38]

It always humors me to find how Righties get all personal when they get mad. Like a bunch of little kids.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9515 mit Tapatalk

This .... תיקון עולם, baby, תיקון עולם under your screen name not siggy sorry. Tell the good folks what that says. Or they can Google it.

They already know. It means TIKKUN OLAM. A Jewish principle of repairing the world through good deeds and showing loving kindness towards our neighbors is something that disturbs you? Because that's what TIKKUN OLAM means. Or do you just hate Judaism in general, great-grandpa?

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They can put it in their search engine. YOU I want NOTHING to do with. Good Bye.

So, great-grandpa is not only senile, he hates Jews. A Tea Partier who hates Jews. I am sooooo surprised.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Mebbe DarkFury thinks he can find a 2nd amendment solution to the tyranny of TIKKUN OLAM!!!!!!

 

[Stephanie]

I JUST ran your signature on my search engine. I'm DONE talking to you.

My sig file in USMB made you mad? As in Mad Cow disease? Ok.... [emoji38]

It always humors me to find how Righties get all personal when they get mad. Like a bunch of little kids.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9515 mit Tapatalk

This .... תיקון עולם, baby, תיקון עולם under your screen name not siggy sorry. Tell the good folks what that says. Or they can Google it.

They already know. It means TIKKUN OLAM. A Jewish principle of repairing the world through good deeds and showing loving kindness towards our neighbors is something that disturbs you? Because that's what TIKKUN OLAM means. Or do you just hate Judaism in general, great-grandpa?

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They can put it in their search engine. YOU I want NOTHING to do with. Good Bye.

So, great-grandpa is not only senile, he hates Jews. A Tea Partier who hates Jews. I am sooooo surprised.

This ugly type of trolling is how you have 30, 000 post already in a little over a year. I don't how you get away with this
you're such a frikken loser. who wants to join a board to watch you all the time. hard telling how many people you've chased off of joining here

 

[Statistikhengst]

My sig file in USMB made you mad? As in Mad Cow disease? Ok.... [emoji38]

It always humors me to find how Righties get all personal when they get mad. Like a bunch of little kids.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9515 mit Tapatalk

This .... תיקון עולם, baby, תיקון עולם under your screen name not siggy sorry. Tell the good folks what that says. Or they can Google it.

They already know. It means TIKKUN OLAM. A Jewish principle of repairing the world through good deeds and showing loving kindness towards our neighbors is something that disturbs you? Because that's what TIKKUN OLAM means. Or do you just hate Judaism in general, great-grandpa?

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9515 mit Tapatalk

They can put it in their search engine. YOU I want NOTHING to do with. Good Bye.

So, great-grandpa is not only senile, he hates Jews. A Tea Partier who hates Jews. I am sooooo surprised.

This ugly type of trolling is how you have 30, 000 post already in a little over a year. I don't how you get away with this
you're such a frikken loser. who wants to join a board to watch you all the time. hard telling how many people you've chased off of joining here

"OMG frikken horrible Dem and their Dear Leeder"......





Stephanie, you have put way too much pot in your Trailer Trash Trailer Court okra cigarette ashes chocolate smashed rasperry pot wood shaving 10-year old oatmeal cookies! Yer high!!!


Now, back to the OP:

Ted Cruz: 2nd Amendment Is 'Ultimate Check Against Government Tyranny'

Got anything to say about that, Staph Infection, or is real content just a level above your pay-grade? Hmmm?

 

[zeke]

Ted Cruz says in his candidacy speech that he would outlaw Obamacare on "Day 1" per executive order. Lol.

The next day, we discover he has enrolled in Obamacare.



Now, Ted Cruz talks about the 2nd amendment supporting an armed insurrection against the US Government.

The very government, of which HE wants to be president.

You can't make this shit up. Only in right winger whacko land does Ted Cruz make any sense.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Ted Cruz says in his candidacy speech that he would outlaw Obamacare on "Day 1" per executive order. Lol.

The next day, we discover he has enrolled in Obamacare.



Now, Ted Cruz talks about the 2nd amendment supporting an armed insurrection against the US Government.

The very government, of which HE wants to be president.

You can't make this shit up. Only in right winger whacko land does Ted Cruz make any sense.

You need to read the ENTIRE thread to get the entertainment value out of this.

Warning: do not drink coffee or pop whilst reading....

 

[chikenwing]

And just for information, Lindsey Graham, the first Princess of South Carolina, thinks this is a bridge too far to go...

Graham Knocks Cruz On Guns And Tyranny We Tried That Once... I m Not Looking For An Insurrection

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz's argument that the Second Amendment provides the "ultimate check against government tyranny" is a bit too extreme for potential 2016 rival and fellow Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

"Well, we tried that once in South Carolina. I wouldn't go down that road again," Graham said, in an apparent reference to the Civil War. "I think an informed electorate is probably a better check than, you know, guns in the streets."

Speaking to a few reporters near the Senate floor Thursday, Graham was answering questions from TPM about the Texas firebrand and presidential candidate's argument made in a fundraising email that the Second Amendment confers a right to revolt against the government.

"The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution isn't for just protecting hunting rights, and it's not only to safeguard your right to target practice. It is a Constitutional right to protect your children, your family, your home, our lives, and to serve as the ultimate check against governmental tyranny -- for the protection of liberty," Cruz wrote in the email Thursday, with the subject line "2nd Amendment against tyranny."

Graham demurred. "I'm not looking for an insurrection. I'm looking to defeat Hillary," he said. "We're not going to out-gun her."

Just when it was looking likie your not a total knot head,you post this !!!
He is 1000% correct.

 

[zeke]

You need to read the ENTIRE thread to get the entertainment value out of this.

Warning: do not drink coffee or pop whilst reading....

Sometimes I do that (read it all) But most times I read the first couple pages where most of the intelligent content may be found, then skip around to the later pages to see what the thread devolved into. I think the funniest shit is at the end when the right wingers get real tired of you making them look like the fools they are.

Then we get staph reflections. And those are always funny.

 

[Derideo_Te]

He's absolutely correct. Why do you disagree? There is a reason why Ferguson was a protest that was able to last for several days with only a few clashes with police that involved tear gas and some minor assaults as opposed to resembling the massacre at Tiananmen Square.

Let me get this straight!

You are claiming that the only reason why the cops never gun down innocent protesters is because they are afraid that the protesters might shoot back?

Seriously?

No, I didn't say it was the only reason. You did.

But, I assure you, it's one hell of a deterrent, which is why you don't see the kind of abuses in this country that you see in places in like North Korea, Cuba, China, etc where only the government has access to that kind of force.

And yet in civilized nations throughout the world unarmed populations protest all the time without needing guns to keep them "safe" from being gunned down.

Your premise fails to withstand scrutiny.

And we generally have unarmed protests here too. What's your point?

Your position that we need an armed population in order to 'protect' peaceful protests has no basis in reality.

 

[Derideo_Te]

He's absolutely correct. Why do you disagree? There is a reason why Ferguson was a protest that was able to last for several days with only a few clashes with police that involved tear gas and some minor assaults as opposed to resembling the massacre at Tiananmen Square.

Let me get this straight!

You are claiming that the only reason why the cops never gun down innocent protesters is because they are afraid that the protesters might shoot back?

Seriously?

No, I didn't say it was the only reason. You did.

But, I assure you, it's one hell of a deterrent, which is why you don't see the kind of abuses in this country that you see in places in like North Korea, Cuba, China, etc where only the government has access to that kind of force.

And yet in civilized nations throughout the world unarmed populations protest all the time without needing guns to keep them "safe" from being gunned down.

Your premise fails to withstand scrutiny.

The Swiss have guns, it's REQUIRED by law just like military service.

Non sequitur!

 

[Derideo_Te]

Bet that title got your attention.

It may seem like fiction, but it's not. Ted Cruz just said that.

Ted Cruz 2nd Amendment Is Ultimate Check Against Government Tyranny

Hmmmmm, interesting.

A declared presidential candidate who is for armed insurrection.


Hmmmmmmm, interesting.

Ted Cruz says that this 2nd Amendment remedy is for the protection of Liberty.

I wonder how he would exactly define "Liberty".

Either way, I think he just won the "We came unarmed --- this time" crowd.

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Discuss. Is this maybe a bit extreme, or is this the necessary fight against the ebbil ebbil gubbermint?

Jesus, you're stupid. Ted Cruz is absolutely correct, you fool. Read the founding documents. My God, you clowns on the left, who claim such intelligence are certainly uninformed as a group.

Get it together, will you?

Thomas Jefferson:

1. "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

Too bad Jefferson never said anything of the sort!

Status: This quotation has not been found in any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson.

Strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

Guess he never said that either, right?

Or this?

Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
Thomas Jefferson

Or how about this?

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Can't admit when you are proven wrong, can you?

Says volumes about your lack of honesty and integrity.

YOU said Thomas Jefferson never said that - not I. I stand by the quote, dumbass. Now - come up with some bullshit progressive professors writing that says he didn't.

When government fears the people there is liberty... Quotation Thomas Jefferson s Monticello

Don't read or your own links or do you just have a serious reading comprehension disorder?

Status: We have not found any evidence that Thomas Jefferson said or wrote, "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny," nor any evidence that he wrote its listed variations.

So your own link proves you wrong and you can't admit to being wrong!

You are doing a great job destroying your own credibility.

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[Derideo_Te]

You need to worry about the new generation that is coming up.

You mean the generation that embraces diversity and gay marriage because they weren't raised to be ignorant bigots?

 

[zeke]

So your own link proves you wrong and you can't admit to being wrong!

You are doing a great job destroying your own credibility.

See what I mean about the thread getting funnier at the end. Right wingers really aren't very good at this shit.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I see you have a lot to learn.

Armed insurrection is illegal. In fact, we have an insurrection acts, signed into law, on the books:

Insurrection Act - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

On September 30, 2006, the Congress modified the Insurrection Act as part of the 2007 Defense Authorization Bill (repealed as of 2008). Section 1076 of the law changed Sec. 333 of the "Insurrection Act," and widened the President's ability to deploy troops within the United States to enforce the laws. Under this act, the President may also deploy troops as a police force during a natural disaster, epidemic, serious public health emergency, terrorist attack, or other condition, when the President determines that the authorities of the state are incapable of maintaining public order. The bill also modified Sec. 334 of the Insurrection Act, giving the President authority to order the dispersal of either insurgents or "those obstructing the enforcement of the laws." The law changed the name of the chapter from "Insurrection" to "Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order."

The 2008 Defense Authorization Bill, repeals the changes made in the 2007 bill.[3]

The 2007 Defense Authorization Bill, with over $500 billion allocated to the military, and which also contained the changes to the Insurrection Act of 1807, was passed by a bipartisan majority of both houses of Congress: 398-23 in the House and by unanimous consent in the Senate.[4] For military forces to be used under the provisions of the revised Insurrection Act, the following conditions must be met:

(1) The President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to--
(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that--
(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; and
(ii) such violence results in a condition described in paragraph (2); or
(B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2).
(2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that--

God bless you. Hell, it's a "law" right? That means that we, the people, just HAVE to follow that order, don't we? After all, it's a LAW!! Thank God you never served in the military......

So, you are still not understanding. But that's ok. By the time you get your fat ass out of the armchair to start the revolution, we will be colonizing Mars.

Sonny, I hate to break it to you, but it's not ME you have to worry about. I'm 71. You need to worry about the new generation that is coming up. YOU are in for a big surprise. Gee, you're dumb.

The new generation can't wait for you to stop voting.

Aw....isn't that sweet? Here she is, telling a Black man, and ELDERLY Black man, that I shouldn't vote. Little racist maybe? Maybe you should get off your fat-ass and vote once in a while, don't you think?

Ironic since you were the one to first play the race card!

 

[Derideo_Te]

Ted Cruz 2nd Amendment Is Ultimate Check Against Government Tyranny

Hmmmmm, interesting.

A declared presidential candidate who is for armed insurrection.

It looks like the board liberals are getting so desperate, that they put up a quote of a conservative saying something true (first line above), and then the liberal lies about it in the same post, with the refutation of the lie right there where he quoted it (third line above).

It's never been easy to be a liberal in the U.S.

Now that the media is no longer able to cover up their lies, it's even tougher.

Too bad, so sad.

Honestly, I believe that they are so afraid that that bitch Clinton will get her ass handed to her that they have started doing the propagandist work early. Goebbels would be proud of them.....keep repeating the lie.....

Boards/Forums and Blogs all over the country are becoming war zones. It IS a reflection of the country. Only question that remains is will they push this from the net into the streets?
I for one am ready to see the military take over for a while if this gets any worse. Military protocol IS a lot higher stands of ethics and honesty then we are seeing now.

Absolutely correct.

It was bad during Bush but it's ten times worse now.

These Lefty's really do NOT want any type of civil issue, they'll lose they are pussies.

Nope. The last thing on this earth I want is a military coup. I want a replaced government with the vast majority of power held at the State level (as it was intended). I want the federal government completely purged of the IRS, the DEA, The DoE, the Energy Department, The Commerce department, The NRO, the NSA, the DOJ, to name but a few.

I want the Congress to stay in their respective states (except when in session) and it be made illegal for them to live anywhere near DC and a Felony to accept ANY money from a lobbyist and contributions be limited to $100 Per registered voter. and I want absolute term limits placed on all positions of Congress - 2 six year terms for Senators, 3 Two year terms for Congressmen, 2 terms for President. I want NO UNIONS for federal employees and all contractual union agreements be declared null and void. No public employee should be allowed to earn more than their civilian counterpart.

Basically, I want the federal government completely gutted and the 4 million "laws" that they use to keep American in "check" overthrown and those responsibilities given to the States, as was intended.

That's what I want. It can be done, and it should be done.

Why do Libertarians hate America?

 

[Derideo_Te]

LOL! Sheesh, the founding fathers, including even Alexander Hamilton, talked about this! It's in the federalist papers, for crying out loud.

The problem is that you, like so many other liberals, don't know your own country's history. Seriously, I'm not kidding. Only someone woefully ignorant of America's founding would be "shocked" at the principle that an armed citizenry is a check against tyrannical government.

I mean, gosh, you do at least know that the War of Independence started when the British tried to seize Patriot gun and ammo stashes in Lexington and Concord, right? Do you at least know that much?

Did you know that Congress passed a law registering all firearms and who owned them at that time?

 

[Derideo_Te]

This reminds me of the hysterical liberal reaction to Ted Cruz's observation that our rights come from God. Anyone who has spent any serious time studying primary sources from the founding era knows that this was exactly what the founding fathers taught. The Constitution guarantees and protect our rights--it does not give us our rights. Our rights come from God, and the Constitution was written to keep government from denying us our rights. This is Americanism 101 for very poorly educated people.

I mean, liberals, have you heard of the Magna Carta, one of the documents that the founders cited and applauded? You might go read it sometime. The main idea that fueled the eventual establishment of representative government in England and that did away with the rule of kings was that man's rights were given to him by God, not by the king or by the government.

Sheesh. . . . It's just unbelievable how ignorant some liberals are of basic American history.

If your rights "come from God" can you prove where exactly he grants you freedom of religion and freedom of speech?