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I'd let them go if they take Trump, his supporters, anti-vaxxers, neo-nazis, climate deniers, religious wackos, and other assorted right wing nut jobs with them. It would be addition by subtraction. They already live in some alternate bizarro world reality as it is.You think that you'd be smart enough to know that Texas wouldn't be allowed to go until all their outstanding bills are paid.
September 17, 1787Show us the law, passed by Congress, that makes secession illegal.
US Constitution, passed Sep 17, 1787Nope.
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect"... - Frank WilhoitA single-party fascist state cannot exist without an underclass that has little or no actual rights. Any time I hear anyone talking about seceding surely they think they will be part of the elite political class rather than the poor slobs who will find themselves working the fields at gunpoint.
Perhaps this link will help. The article is by Andrew Napolitano dated 09/02/2021.
Time for Us to Leave Governments That Ignore Our Freedoms
I have been writing for years asking if we still have the U.S. Constitution. That issue has come into sharper focus in the past 18 months as mayors and governors have created dictatorial powers and exercised those powers to interfere with personal autonomy in America.www.newsmax.com
I have been writing for years asking if we still have the U.S. Constitution. That issue has come into sharper focus in the past 18 months as mayors and governors have created dictatorial powers and exercised those powers to interfere with personal autonomy in America. They have done this in utter disregard for the freedoms protected by the Constitution they have sworn to uphold by asserting that public health trumps personal liberty
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The underlying value here is that because the Constitution is a voluntary compact, those states that formed it and joined it voluntarily have the sovereign power to leave it.
Nullification and secession as ideas were cast aside by the Supreme Court and by the outcome of the War Between the States. But the defeat of an idea — politically, legally or even militarily — cannot always bury the idea permanently. When an idea's time has come, nothing can stop it.
Jefferson and Madison believed that the Constitution protects the right to leave the government whenever it interferes with or fails to protect fundamental liberties. The very idea of secession terrifies government, whether it be the feds or the states, because — if successful — it diminishes government power and income.
So using your logic, then you think if a woman is in a bad marriage and that her husband uses and abuses her, that she can't leave him either?In 1974, I traded a 1963 Ford Galaxy that was in pretty good shape for a half acre of land. The guy polished it up and stored it in a garage, and only drove it occasionally on weekends, and lately only in parades and car shows. Using your logic, I have the right to take back my agreement and exchange that half acre to get that car back.
Most of them would stay in America out of spite. In short order Texas would stop the only kind of immigrant they would get: Fat slobs with a van full of guns, no education, no money and the expectation that things will be perfect in a conservative utopia.I'd let them go if they take Trump, his supporters, anti-vaxxers, neo-nazis, climate deniers, religious wackos, and other assorted right wing nut jobs with them. It would be addition by subtraction. They already live in some alternate bizarro world reality as it is.
She's like the hotel california.So using your logic, then you think if a woman is in a bad marriage and that her husband uses and abuses her, that she can't leave him either?
Ok, yeah, there's no prohibition to secession in the Constitution.September 17, 1787
It's the law of "Fuck no we ain't doing this again". Attempting to steal a state full of federal property and infrastructure would be stopped if they had to send in the army and arrest the entire state government. Does not have to be a specific law against it when there is no valid way to do it.Ok, yeah, there's no prohibition to secession in the Constitution.
Now, show me the law, the actual law that makes secession illegal. We'll wait...
No problem there either as what Biden is doing is killing the US $$$$$----it is shooting down in value and with in 10 years will be worth almost nothing. Texas should pay them with promises promises like Biden does the rest of us for any debt that the rest of the nation thinks it is owed...Texas does not owe them shit.She's like the hotel california.
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
Until there is a divorce or legal separation, the wife is still on the hook for any debts the husband runs up. So texas could leave, but they still have to pay income tax.
There's no such thing as the law of "fuck no we ain't doing this again". That isn't how our republic works.It's the law of "Fuck no we ain't doing this again". Attempting to steal a state full of federal property and infrastructure would be stopped if they had to send in the army and arrest the entire state government. Does not have to be a specific law against it when there is no valid way to do it.
Who's going to stop them?...lolYou think that you'd be smart enough to know that Texas wouldn't be allowed to go until all their outstanding bills are paid.
Those who believe that the states have the right to unilaterally secede from the United States are ignorant of the law and know nothing about the Constitution (see Texas v. White (1868)).Texas DOES have a right to secede according to those who know the law and Constitution
Andrew Napolitano is an attorney who has studied the US Constitution and he says that Lincoln was wrong to go to war to keep the states together, that they have a right to secede
it makes sense
when the country was being formed, the leaders needed all the states to ratify the Union and Constitution
if they have the right to agree to it, they have the right to take back their agreement.. the right to secede... Remember the words of the early documents... that if, after a long string of usurpations... people find it necessary to throw off the bonds... (I will get the exact words soon but you know them or should .)
The confederacy will not be allowed rise again. There's way more legal justification for putting down a rebellion than there is for a bunch of hard right assholes to steal an entire state. You can't have a divorce now get back in the kitchen and make me a sammich.There's no such thing as the law of "fuck no we ain't doing this again". That isn't how our republic works.
If you arrest someone, there absolutely has to be law against it. Have you ever read the fucking 5th Amendment??
Correct.The late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia once wrote, “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede."
The only way a state could secede is if the other 49 states agree to it.
Otherwise, it's war.
True.The confederacy will not be allowed rise again.
Texas DOES have a right to secede according to those who know the law and Constitution
Andrew Napolitano is an attorney who has studied the US Constitution and he says that Lincoln was wrong to go to war to keep the states together, that they have a right to secede
it makes sense
when the country was being formed, the leaders needed all the states to ratify the Union and Constitution
if they have the right to agree to it, they have the right to take back their agreement.. the right to secede... Remember the words of the early documents... that if, after a long string of usurpations... people find it necessary to throw off the bonds... (I will get the exact words soon but you know them or should .)
