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Lawyers are the ones that make out like bandits in these class action suits. There should be caps on what they can get it.
What do leftys think would happen if the government controlled healthcare? Do they actually believe they could sue the government and win? LOL...reasoning is clearly not their forte'.
/——/ It’s socialism with all the bells and whistles.Already done it/----/ Refute what she woman said.Pretty sick shit
But what can be expected from Republicans
Advocating for universal healthcare and the environment does not equate to Pol Pot and Genocide
Sometimes the truth hurts. Liberals just want everyone to forgot about the misery, deprivation, and starvation that socialism has caused in Venezuela, Cuba, the old Soviet Union, Maoist China, Greece, etc., etc.
/——-/ Oh you make it sound harmless enough, but bad law with a nice name is still bad law. And don’t twist my words. I never said it would lead to genocide./——/ It’s socialism with all the bells and whistles.Already done it/----/ Refute what she woman said.Pretty sick shit
But what can be expected from Republicans
Advocating for universal healthcare and the environment does not equate to Pol Pot and Genocide
Protecting the environment and ensuring healthcare for the people is now socialism?
Explain how that would lead to Genocide
/—-/ Republicans were shut out of the meetings on Obozocare. We were the minority. How did we obstruct?Obamacare is a framework for building a good Healthcare system, and they got all they could obviously over pure GOP obstruction. Fix it if you have a problem with it. Of course the GOP just wants to get rid of anything that ends their ridiculously expensive Healthcare scam.... Idiot.The healthcare industry thanks you for your mindless ass-kissing.It is the first regulation on the healthcare industry and cut their profits per patient. And is a framework for more and more regulation forever. Stop sabotaging it and fix it. Republicans want to cut healthcare for everyone great job.Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It PassedExcept I am 6 foot 4 don't hate anything but lies and I am not a dupe like you are... The GOP is the party that is owned by big Pharma big Health Big oil big insurance you name it. That is how you getthe worst inequality and upward mobility in our history and anywhere in the modern world.
Meet Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT and an architect of Obamacare. During a panel event last year about how the legislation passed, turning over a sixth of the U.S. economy to the government, Gruber admitted that the Obama administration went through "tortuous" measures to keep the facts about the legislation from the American people, including covering up the redistribution of wealth from the healthy to the sick in the legislation that Obamacare is in fact a tax. The video of his comments just recently surfaced ahead of the second open enrollment period for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov.BAUCUS THANKS WELLPOINT VP LIZ FOWLER FOR WRITING HEALTH CARE BILL
"You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that," Gruber said. "In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not."
Obamacare architect leaves White House for pharmaceutical industry job
When the legislation that became known as "Obamacare" was first drafted, the key legislator was the Democratic Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, whose committee took the lead in drafting the legislation. As Baucus himself repeatedly boasted, the architect of that legislation was Elizabeth Folwer, his chief health policy counsel; indeed, as Marcy Wheeler discovered, it was Fowler who actually drafted it. As Politico put it at the time: "If you drew an organizational chart of major players in the Senate health care negotiations, Fowler would be the chief operating officer."There are few pieces of legislation more corporatist than Obamacare. The Democrats are utterly owned by the healthcare industry.
What was most amazing about all of that was that, before joining Baucus' office as the point person for the health care bill, Fowler was the Vice President for Public Policy and External Affairs (i.e. informal lobbying) at WellPoint, the nation's largest health insurance provider (before going to WellPoint, as well as after, Fowler had worked as Baucus' top health care aide). And when that health care bill was drafted, the person whom Fowler replaced as chief health counsel in Baucus' office, Michelle Easton, was lobbying for WellPoint as a principal at Tarplin, Downs, and Young.
Whatever one's views on Obamacare were and are: the bill's mandate that everyone purchase the products of the private health insurance industry, unaccompanied by any public alternative, was a huge gift to that industry; as Wheeler wrote at the time: "to the extent that Liz Fowler is the author of this document, we might as well consider WellPoint its author as well." Watch the five-minute Bill Moyers report from 2009, embedded below, on the key role played in all of this by Liz Fowler and the "revolving door" between the health insurance/lobbying industry and government officials at the time this bill was written and passed.
More amazingly still, when the Obama White House needed someone to oversee implementation of Obamacare after the bill passed, it chose . . . Liz Fowler. That the White House would put a former health insurance industry executive in charge of implementation of its new massive health care law was roundly condemned by good government groups as at least a violation of the "spirit" of governing ethics rules and even "gross", but those objections were, of course, brushed aside by the White House. She then became Special Assistant to the President for Healthcare and Economic Policy at the National Economic Council.
Now, as Politico's "Influence" column briefly noted on Tuesday, Fowler is once again passing through the deeply corrupting revolving door as she leaves the Obama administration to return to the loving and lucrative arms of the private health care industry:
"Elizabeth Fowler is leaving the White House for a senior-level position leading 'global health policy' at Johnson & Johnson's government affairs and policy group."
The pharmaceutical giant that just hired Fowler actively supported the passage of Obamacare through its membership in the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) lobby. Indeed, PhRMA was one of the most aggressive supporters - and most lavish beneficiaries - of the health care bill drafted by Fowler. Mother Jones' James Ridgeway proclaimed "Big Pharma" the "big winner" in the health care bill. And now, Fowler will receive ample rewards from that same industry as she peddles her influence in government and exploits her experience with its inner workings to work on that industry's behalf, all of which has been made perfectly legal by the same insular, Versailles-like Washington culture that so lavishly benefits from all of this.
I just showed you how they lied to you. And you thank them for it.
But you just keep dancing how the health-industry-owned Democratic Party orders you, you sheep.
That has to do with the Republican filibuster rule they have now and the fact that they are all a bunch of bought off swine now since Reagan and the brainwash... But thanks to the reconciliation rule they only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and services and opportunity for everyone else. Wake up and smell the coffee dumbassFor example, since Reagan we have been spending half as much on infrastructure and maintenance as before. You of course are clueless being a GOP voter...Thanks for admitting that they do it, and they don't get less federal aid.They do it to make up for Less Federal Aid. Great job! No sacrifice for regular people is too great to keep the rich from paying their fair share super duper....
You mean half of what we were spending during 8 years of Hussein and 8 years of Clinton?
Boy that Reagan had some power, didn't he?
I have noticed that, according to some posters on here, the democrats apparently ceased to exist as a political power sometime during the 80's.
And yes the Democrats are too civilized and sincere for this world.... Next time they should use the nuclear option and pass a living wage daycare Healthcare paid parental leave cheap college and training good infrastructure and good vacations and MAINLY TAX THE RICH THEIR FAIR SHARE DUMBASS. Then you idiots will know what the Democrats want and what Republicans want instead of the garbage you believe now.That has to do with the Republican filibuster rule they have now and the fact that they are all a bunch of bought off swine now since Reagan and the brainwash... But thanks to the reconciliation rule they only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and services and opportunity for everyone else. Wake up and smell the coffee dumbassFor example, since Reagan we have been spending half as much on infrastructure and maintenance as before. You of course are clueless being a GOP voter...Thanks for admitting that they do it, and they don't get less federal aid.
You mean half of what we were spending during 8 years of Hussein and 8 years of Clinton?
Boy that Reagan had some power, didn't he?
I have noticed that, according to some posters on here, the democrats apparently ceased to exist as a political power sometime during the 80's.
/—-/ Republicans were shut out of the meetings on Obozocare. We were the minority. How did we obstruct?Obamacare is a framework for building a good Healthcare system, and they got all they could obviously over pure GOP obstruction. Fix it if you have a problem with it. Of course the GOP just wants to get rid of anything that ends their ridiculously expensive Healthcare scam.... Idiot.The healthcare industry thanks you for your mindless ass-kissing.It is the first regulation on the healthcare industry and cut their profits per patient. And is a framework for more and more regulation forever. Stop sabotaging it and fix it. Republicans want to cut healthcare for everyone great job.Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It PassedExcept I am 6 foot 4 don't hate anything but lies and I am not a dupe like you are... The GOP is the party that is owned by big Pharma big Health Big oil big insurance you name it. That is how you getthe worst inequality and upward mobility in our history and anywhere in the modern world.
Meet Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT and an architect of Obamacare. During a panel event last year about how the legislation passed, turning over a sixth of the U.S. economy to the government, Gruber admitted that the Obama administration went through "tortuous" measures to keep the facts about the legislation from the American people, including covering up the redistribution of wealth from the healthy to the sick in the legislation that Obamacare is in fact a tax. The video of his comments just recently surfaced ahead of the second open enrollment period for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov.BAUCUS THANKS WELLPOINT VP LIZ FOWLER FOR WRITING HEALTH CARE BILL
"You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that," Gruber said. "In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not."
Obamacare architect leaves White House for pharmaceutical industry job
When the legislation that became known as "Obamacare" was first drafted, the key legislator was the Democratic Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, whose committee took the lead in drafting the legislation. As Baucus himself repeatedly boasted, the architect of that legislation was Elizabeth Folwer, his chief health policy counsel; indeed, as Marcy Wheeler discovered, it was Fowler who actually drafted it. As Politico put it at the time: "If you drew an organizational chart of major players in the Senate health care negotiations, Fowler would be the chief operating officer."There are few pieces of legislation more corporatist than Obamacare. The Democrats are utterly owned by the healthcare industry.
What was most amazing about all of that was that, before joining Baucus' office as the point person for the health care bill, Fowler was the Vice President for Public Policy and External Affairs (i.e. informal lobbying) at WellPoint, the nation's largest health insurance provider (before going to WellPoint, as well as after, Fowler had worked as Baucus' top health care aide). And when that health care bill was drafted, the person whom Fowler replaced as chief health counsel in Baucus' office, Michelle Easton, was lobbying for WellPoint as a principal at Tarplin, Downs, and Young.
Whatever one's views on Obamacare were and are: the bill's mandate that everyone purchase the products of the private health insurance industry, unaccompanied by any public alternative, was a huge gift to that industry; as Wheeler wrote at the time: "to the extent that Liz Fowler is the author of this document, we might as well consider WellPoint its author as well." Watch the five-minute Bill Moyers report from 2009, embedded below, on the key role played in all of this by Liz Fowler and the "revolving door" between the health insurance/lobbying industry and government officials at the time this bill was written and passed.
More amazingly still, when the Obama White House needed someone to oversee implementation of Obamacare after the bill passed, it chose . . . Liz Fowler. That the White House would put a former health insurance industry executive in charge of implementation of its new massive health care law was roundly condemned by good government groups as at least a violation of the "spirit" of governing ethics rules and even "gross", but those objections were, of course, brushed aside by the White House. She then became Special Assistant to the President for Healthcare and Economic Policy at the National Economic Council.
Now, as Politico's "Influence" column briefly noted on Tuesday, Fowler is once again passing through the deeply corrupting revolving door as she leaves the Obama administration to return to the loving and lucrative arms of the private health care industry:
"Elizabeth Fowler is leaving the White House for a senior-level position leading 'global health policy' at Johnson & Johnson's government affairs and policy group."
The pharmaceutical giant that just hired Fowler actively supported the passage of Obamacare through its membership in the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) lobby. Indeed, PhRMA was one of the most aggressive supporters - and most lavish beneficiaries - of the health care bill drafted by Fowler. Mother Jones' James Ridgeway proclaimed "Big Pharma" the "big winner" in the health care bill. And now, Fowler will receive ample rewards from that same industry as she peddles her influence in government and exploits her experience with its inner workings to work on that industry's behalf, all of which has been made perfectly legal by the same insular, Versailles-like Washington culture that so lavishly benefits from all of this.
I just showed you how they lied to you. And you thank them for it.
But you just keep dancing how the health-industry-owned Democratic Party orders you, you sheep.
You just make sure you don't condemn the violently unhinged liberal. You'll burst into flames.Last I saw she Griffin was not running for political office as a DemAnother lying piece of shit ABNORMAL...ABOVE IT MY ASSLol right? It's almost as bad as when they made a fake head, covered it with blood and held a knife. To imply cutting her head off. Or just strait up shooting her while she is playing baseball.Pretty sick shit
But what can be expected from Republicans
Thank gawd almighty Democrats are above that.
And what this thread is about, what caused all your butthurt, is that a candidate told the truth about socialism.Last I saw she Griffin was not running for political office as a DemAnother lying piece of shit ABNORMAL...ABOVE IT MY ASSLol right? It's almost as bad as when they made a fake head, covered it with blood and held a knife. To imply cutting her head off. Or just strait up shooting her while she is playing baseball.Pretty sick shit
But what can be expected from Republicans
Thank gawd almighty Democrats are above that.
So that means she cannot promote violence? She's obviously not a Republican.
Comedians, actors, assholes on the internet can say what they want
Candidates running for office are held to a higher standard
So, I proved that Obamacare is based in lies -- and you thank the Democrats for noticing you.Obamacare is a framework for building a good Healthcare system, and they got all they could obviously over pure GOP obstruction. Fix it if you have a problem with it. Of course the GOP just wants to get rid of anything that ends their ridiculously expensive Healthcare scam.... Idiot.The healthcare industry thanks you for your mindless ass-kissing.It is the first regulation on the healthcare industry and cut their profits per patient. And is a framework for more and more regulation forever. Stop sabotaging it and fix it. Republicans want to cut healthcare for everyone great job.Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It PassedExcept I am 6 foot 4 don't hate anything but lies and I am not a dupe like you are... The GOP is the party that is owned by big Pharma big Health Big oil big insurance you name it. That is how you getthe worst inequality and upward mobility in our history and anywhere in the modern world.
Meet Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT and an architect of Obamacare. During a panel event last year about how the legislation passed, turning over a sixth of the U.S. economy to the government, Gruber admitted that the Obama administration went through "tortuous" measures to keep the facts about the legislation from the American people, including covering up the redistribution of wealth from the healthy to the sick in the legislation that Obamacare is in fact a tax. The video of his comments just recently surfaced ahead of the second open enrollment period for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov.BAUCUS THANKS WELLPOINT VP LIZ FOWLER FOR WRITING HEALTH CARE BILL
"You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that," Gruber said. "In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not."
Obamacare architect leaves White House for pharmaceutical industry job
When the legislation that became known as "Obamacare" was first drafted, the key legislator was the Democratic Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, whose committee took the lead in drafting the legislation. As Baucus himself repeatedly boasted, the architect of that legislation was Elizabeth Folwer, his chief health policy counsel; indeed, as Marcy Wheeler discovered, it was Fowler who actually drafted it. As Politico put it at the time: "If you drew an organizational chart of major players in the Senate health care negotiations, Fowler would be the chief operating officer."There are few pieces of legislation more corporatist than Obamacare. The Democrats are utterly owned by the healthcare industry.
What was most amazing about all of that was that, before joining Baucus' office as the point person for the health care bill, Fowler was the Vice President for Public Policy and External Affairs (i.e. informal lobbying) at WellPoint, the nation's largest health insurance provider (before going to WellPoint, as well as after, Fowler had worked as Baucus' top health care aide). And when that health care bill was drafted, the person whom Fowler replaced as chief health counsel in Baucus' office, Michelle Easton, was lobbying for WellPoint as a principal at Tarplin, Downs, and Young.
Whatever one's views on Obamacare were and are: the bill's mandate that everyone purchase the products of the private health insurance industry, unaccompanied by any public alternative, was a huge gift to that industry; as Wheeler wrote at the time: "to the extent that Liz Fowler is the author of this document, we might as well consider WellPoint its author as well." Watch the five-minute Bill Moyers report from 2009, embedded below, on the key role played in all of this by Liz Fowler and the "revolving door" between the health insurance/lobbying industry and government officials at the time this bill was written and passed.
More amazingly still, when the Obama White House needed someone to oversee implementation of Obamacare after the bill passed, it chose . . . Liz Fowler. That the White House would put a former health insurance industry executive in charge of implementation of its new massive health care law was roundly condemned by good government groups as at least a violation of the "spirit" of governing ethics rules and even "gross", but those objections were, of course, brushed aside by the White House. She then became Special Assistant to the President for Healthcare and Economic Policy at the National Economic Council.
Now, as Politico's "Influence" column briefly noted on Tuesday, Fowler is once again passing through the deeply corrupting revolving door as she leaves the Obama administration to return to the loving and lucrative arms of the private health care industry:
"Elizabeth Fowler is leaving the White House for a senior-level position leading 'global health policy' at Johnson & Johnson's government affairs and policy group."
The pharmaceutical giant that just hired Fowler actively supported the passage of Obamacare through its membership in the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) lobby. Indeed, PhRMA was one of the most aggressive supporters - and most lavish beneficiaries - of the health care bill drafted by Fowler. Mother Jones' James Ridgeway proclaimed "Big Pharma" the "big winner" in the health care bill. And now, Fowler will receive ample rewards from that same industry as she peddles her influence in government and exploits her experience with its inner workings to work on that industry's behalf, all of which has been made perfectly legal by the same insular, Versailles-like Washington culture that so lavishly benefits from all of this.
I just showed you how they lied to you. And you thank them for it.
But you just keep dancing how the health-industry-owned Democratic Party orders you, you sheep.
When the government writes the checks, the government decides who lives and who dies.the only thing that changes with any of these plans is the way that the doctors and hospitals etc are paid. You are brainwashed out of your tiny little mind like all GOP voters.And what happens when all providers are government employees?What bullshitWhich universe do you live in?You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?
Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?
Profiteers for the most part. And thg hey should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.
Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.
Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.
Lawsuits protect patients. Removing the threat of lawsuits allows medical practitioners to trade off safety for profits
You can't sue the government without the government's permission.
Democrats appreciate the passionate ass-licking, but they really don't care about you as a person. Just keep voting D as you're been programmed, and they'll blame all their failures on the GOP, and you'll swallow it whole.And yes the Democrats are too civilized and sincere for this world.... Next time they should use the nuclear option and pass a living wage daycare Healthcare paid parental leave cheap college and training good infrastructure and good vacations and MAINLY TAX THE RICH THEIR FAIR SHARE DUMBASS. Then you idiots will know what the Democrats want and what Republicans want instead of the garbage you believe now.That has to do with the Republican filibuster rule they have now and the fact that they are all a bunch of bought off swine now since Reagan and the brainwash... But thanks to the reconciliation rule they only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and services and opportunity for everyone else. Wake up and smell the coffee dumbassFor example, since Reagan we have been spending half as much on infrastructure and maintenance as before. You of course are clueless being a GOP voter...Thanks for admitting that they do it, and they don't get less federal aid.
You mean half of what we were spending during 8 years of Hussein and 8 years of Clinton?
Boy that Reagan had some power, didn't he?
I have noticed that, according to some posters on here, the democrats apparently ceased to exist as a political power sometime during the 80's.
The commercial about AOC said it would/——-/ Oh you make it sound harmless enough, but bad law with a nice name is still bad law. And don’t twist my words. I never said it would lead to genocide./——/ It’s socialism with all the bells and whistles.Already done it/----/ Refute what she woman said.Pretty sick shit
But what can be expected from Republicans
Advocating for universal healthcare and the environment does not equate to Pol Pot and Genocide
Protecting the environment and ensuring healthcare for the people is now socialism?
Explain how that would lead to Genocide
Like law enforcement and every respected journalist in the world.... Agrees with the Democrats. And think you are crazy.Democrats appreciate the passionate ass-licking, but they really don't care about you as a person. Just keep voting D as you're been programmed, and they'll blame all their failures on the GOP, and you'll swallow it whole.And yes the Democrats are too civilized and sincere for this world.... Next time they should use the nuclear option and pass a living wage daycare Healthcare paid parental leave cheap college and training good infrastructure and good vacations and MAINLY TAX THE RICH THEIR FAIR SHARE DUMBASS. Then you idiots will know what the Democrats want and what Republicans want instead of the garbage you believe now.That has to do with the Republican filibuster rule they have now and the fact that they are all a bunch of bought off swine now since Reagan and the brainwash... But thanks to the reconciliation rule they only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and services and opportunity for everyone else. Wake up and smell the coffee dumbassFor example, since Reagan we have been spending half as much on infrastructure and maintenance as before. You of course are clueless being a GOP voter...
You mean half of what we were spending during 8 years of Hussein and 8 years of Clinton?
Boy that Reagan had some power, didn't he?
I have noticed that, according to some posters on here, the democrats apparently ceased to exist as a political power sometime during the 80's.
hilariously ironic, brainwashed functional moron. You GOP voters can't stand to watch anything but Fox and Rush Limbaugh pathetic. Garbage propaganda the whole world agrees is Republican.Democrats appreciate the passionate ass-licking, but they really don't care about you as a person. Just keep voting D as you're been programmed, and they'll blame all their failures on the GOP, and you'll swallow it whole.And yes the Democrats are too civilized and sincere for this world.... Next time they should use the nuclear option and pass a living wage daycare Healthcare paid parental leave cheap college and training good infrastructure and good vacations and MAINLY TAX THE RICH THEIR FAIR SHARE DUMBASS. Then you idiots will know what the Democrats want and what Republicans want instead of the garbage you believe now.That has to do with the Republican filibuster rule they have now and the fact that they are all a bunch of bought off swine now since Reagan and the brainwash... But thanks to the reconciliation rule they only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and services and opportunity for everyone else. Wake up and smell the coffee dumbassFor example, since Reagan we have been spending half as much on infrastructure and maintenance as before. You of course are clueless being a GOP voter...
You mean half of what we were spending during 8 years of Hussein and 8 years of Clinton?
Boy that Reagan had some power, didn't he?
I have noticed that, according to some posters on here, the democrats apparently ceased to exist as a political power sometime during the 80's.
You have no evidence they aren't. Whereas Trump and trumppers are basically barbarians, brainwashed functional morons. Civilized people are called pussies and wimps by them.And yes the Democrats are too civilized and sincere for this world.... Next time they should use the nuclear option and pass a living wage daycare Healthcare paid parental leave cheap college and training good infrastructure and good vacations and MAINLY TAX THE RICH THEIR FAIR SHARE DUMBASS. Then you idiots will know what the Democrats want and what Republicans want instead of the garbage you believe now.That has to do with the Republican filibuster rule they have now and the fact that they are all a bunch of bought off swine now since Reagan and the brainwash... But thanks to the reconciliation rule they only need 51 votes to cut taxes on the rich and services and opportunity for everyone else. Wake up and smell the coffee dumbassFor example, since Reagan we have been spending half as much on infrastructure and maintenance as before. You of course are clueless being a GOP voter...
You mean half of what we were spending during 8 years of Hussein and 8 years of Clinton?
Boy that Reagan had some power, didn't he?
I have noticed that, according to some posters on here, the democrats apparently ceased to exist as a political power sometime during the 80's.
HAHAHAHAHA! You really think democrats are civilized!
Actually there was the gang of six who were in talks with the Democrats or were stalling depending on how you look at it. After all it is the GOP plan. They wouldn't even vote for that.../—-/ Republicans were shut out of the meetings on Obozocare. We were the minority. How did we obstruct?Obamacare is a framework for building a good Healthcare system, and they got all they could obviously over pure GOP obstruction. Fix it if you have a problem with it. Of course the GOP just wants to get rid of anything that ends their ridiculously expensive Healthcare scam.... Idiot.The healthcare industry thanks you for your mindless ass-kissing.It is the first regulation on the healthcare industry and cut their profits per patient. And is a framework for more and more regulation forever. Stop sabotaging it and fix it. Republicans want to cut healthcare for everyone great job.Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It PassedExcept I am 6 foot 4 don't hate anything but lies and I am not a dupe like you are... The GOP is the party that is owned by big Pharma big Health Big oil big insurance you name it. That is how you getthe worst inequality and upward mobility in our history and anywhere in the modern world.
Meet Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT and an architect of Obamacare. During a panel event last year about how the legislation passed, turning over a sixth of the U.S. economy to the government, Gruber admitted that the Obama administration went through "tortuous" measures to keep the facts about the legislation from the American people, including covering up the redistribution of wealth from the healthy to the sick in the legislation that Obamacare is in fact a tax. The video of his comments just recently surfaced ahead of the second open enrollment period for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov.BAUCUS THANKS WELLPOINT VP LIZ FOWLER FOR WRITING HEALTH CARE BILL
"You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that," Gruber said. "In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not."
Obamacare architect leaves White House for pharmaceutical industry job
When the legislation that became known as "Obamacare" was first drafted, the key legislator was the Democratic Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus, whose committee took the lead in drafting the legislation. As Baucus himself repeatedly boasted, the architect of that legislation was Elizabeth Folwer, his chief health policy counsel; indeed, as Marcy Wheeler discovered, it was Fowler who actually drafted it. As Politico put it at the time: "If you drew an organizational chart of major players in the Senate health care negotiations, Fowler would be the chief operating officer."There are few pieces of legislation more corporatist than Obamacare. The Democrats are utterly owned by the healthcare industry.
What was most amazing about all of that was that, before joining Baucus' office as the point person for the health care bill, Fowler was the Vice President for Public Policy and External Affairs (i.e. informal lobbying) at WellPoint, the nation's largest health insurance provider (before going to WellPoint, as well as after, Fowler had worked as Baucus' top health care aide). And when that health care bill was drafted, the person whom Fowler replaced as chief health counsel in Baucus' office, Michelle Easton, was lobbying for WellPoint as a principal at Tarplin, Downs, and Young.
Whatever one's views on Obamacare were and are: the bill's mandate that everyone purchase the products of the private health insurance industry, unaccompanied by any public alternative, was a huge gift to that industry; as Wheeler wrote at the time: "to the extent that Liz Fowler is the author of this document, we might as well consider WellPoint its author as well." Watch the five-minute Bill Moyers report from 2009, embedded below, on the key role played in all of this by Liz Fowler and the "revolving door" between the health insurance/lobbying industry and government officials at the time this bill was written and passed.
More amazingly still, when the Obama White House needed someone to oversee implementation of Obamacare after the bill passed, it chose . . . Liz Fowler. That the White House would put a former health insurance industry executive in charge of implementation of its new massive health care law was roundly condemned by good government groups as at least a violation of the "spirit" of governing ethics rules and even "gross", but those objections were, of course, brushed aside by the White House. She then became Special Assistant to the President for Healthcare and Economic Policy at the National Economic Council.
Now, as Politico's "Influence" column briefly noted on Tuesday, Fowler is once again passing through the deeply corrupting revolving door as she leaves the Obama administration to return to the loving and lucrative arms of the private health care industry:
"Elizabeth Fowler is leaving the White House for a senior-level position leading 'global health policy' at Johnson & Johnson's government affairs and policy group."
The pharmaceutical giant that just hired Fowler actively supported the passage of Obamacare through its membership in the Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) lobby. Indeed, PhRMA was one of the most aggressive supporters - and most lavish beneficiaries - of the health care bill drafted by Fowler. Mother Jones' James Ridgeway proclaimed "Big Pharma" the "big winner" in the health care bill. And now, Fowler will receive ample rewards from that same industry as she peddles her influence in government and exploits her experience with its inner workings to work on that industry's behalf, all of which has been made perfectly legal by the same insular, Versailles-like Washington culture that so lavishly benefits from all of this.
I just showed you how they lied to you. And you thank them for it.
But you just keep dancing how the health-industry-owned Democratic Party orders you, you sheep.
