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The Amazing Effect of the Trump Tax Cuts on Liberals

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The Trump tax cuts have had an amazing effect on liberals. Consider:

Before: Liberals constantly complained that the rich weren't paying their fair share.
Now: Liberals are extremely upset that rich people can no longer deduct all of their state and local taxes and their mortgage interest.

Before: Not only did liberals never say a peep about the explosion of the debt and the deficit under Obama, but some of them even argued that the deficit and the debt were not really that big of a deal given the total value of our economy and natural resources.
Now: Holy cow! Liberals are now screaming dire warnings about the deficit and the debt! In the last four days alone, I have seen six liberal "guest analysts/commentators" on news shows feign extreme concern about the deficit and the debt.

Before: Liberals, like everyone else, considered an 8-year policy to be long term--not permanent, but long term--certainly not "temporary." They never attacked Obama's payroll-tax cut as "temporary" (it lasted two years).
Now: Oddly, liberals are describing the 8-year personal tax cuts in the Trump tax cuts as "temporary." "Temporary"?! If you accepted an offer for a job on an 8-year contract, would you describe that job as "temporary"?

Before: When Obama campaigned in 2008 and touted a $40 tax cut for middle-income people, liberals described this as "real money for working people."
Now: The Trump tax cuts will deliver two, three, and four times that much money to middle-income people, but liberals are calling those savings "peanuts" and "a pittance."
 
The Trump tax cuts have had an amazing effect on liberals. Consider:

Before: Liberals constantly complained that the rich weren't paying their fair share.
Now: Liberals are extremely upset that rich people can no longer deduct all of their state and local taxes and their mortgage interest.

Before: Not only did liberals never say a peep about the explosion of the debt and the deficit under Obama, but some of them even argued that the deficit and the debt were not really that big of a deal given the total value of our economy and natural resources.
Now: Holy cow! Liberals are now screaming dire warnings about the deficit and the debt! In the last four days alone, I have seen six liberal "guest analysts/commentators" on news shows feign extreme concern about the deficit and the debt.

Before: Liberals, like everyone else, considered an 8-year policy to be long term--not permanent, but long term--certainly not "temporary." They never attacked Obama's payroll-tax cut as "temporary" (it lasted two years).
Now: Oddly, liberals are describing the 8-year personal tax cuts in the Trump tax cuts as "temporary." "Temporary"?! If you accepted an offer for a job on an 8-year contract, would you describe that job as "temporary"?

Before: When Obama campaigned in 2008 and touted a $40 tax cut for middle-income people, liberals described this as "real money for working people."
Now: The Trump tax cuts will deliver two, three, and four times that much money to middle-income people, but liberals are calling those savings "peanuts" and "a pittance."

Not just Liberals, but anyone who isn't a fraud, have merely pointed out the obvious that tax cuts for rich people and corporations is a failed economic policy that has been proven to be just that.

Only a mental midget or a fraud doesn't understand that or is willfully ignorant to that fact.

Fortunately enough of the people are educated to this fact now, and this fraud will be repealed.
 
The Trump tax cuts have had an amazing effect on liberals. Consider:

Before: Liberals constantly complained that the rich weren't paying their fair share.
Now: Liberals are extremely upset that rich people can no longer deduct all of their state and local taxes and their mortgage interest.

Before: Not only did liberals never say a peep about the explosion of the debt and the deficit under Obama, but some of them even argued that the deficit and the debt were not really that big of a deal given the total value of our economy and natural resources.
Now: Holy cow! Liberals are now screaming dire warnings about the deficit and the debt! In the last four days alone, I have seen six liberal "guest analysts/commentators" on news shows feign extreme concern about the deficit and the debt.

Before: Liberals, like everyone else, considered an 8-year policy to be long term--not permanent, but long term--certainly not "temporary." They never attacked Obama's payroll-tax cut as "temporary" (it lasted two years).
Now: Oddly, liberals are describing the 8-year personal tax cuts in the Trump tax cuts as "temporary." "Temporary"?! If you accepted an offer for a job on an 8-year contract, would you describe that job as "temporary"?

Before: When Obama campaigned in 2008 and touted a $40 tax cut for middle-income people, liberals described this as "real money for working people."
Now: The Trump tax cuts will deliver two, three, and four times that much money to middle-income people, but liberals are calling those savings "peanuts" and "a pittance."

Not just Liberals, but anyone who isn't a fraud, have merely pointed out the obvious that tax cuts for rich people and corporations is a failed economic policy that has been proven to be just that.

Only a mental midget or a fraud doesn't understand that or is willfully ignorant to that fact.

Fortunately enough of the people are educated to this fact now, and this fraud will be repealed.

pointed out the obvious that tax cuts for rich people and corporations is a failed economic policy that has been proven to be just that.

Proven when?
 
Anyone who voted for, or supported Obamacare is a goddamn fraud. That bill pillaged to the point where anyone who supported it is worthy of being shot. This tax cut just gives back money to those who earned it.
 
The Trump tax cuts have had an amazing effect on liberals. Consider:

Before: Liberals constantly complained that the rich weren't paying their fair share.
Now: Liberals are extremely upset that rich people can no longer deduct all of their state and local taxes and their mortgage interest.

Before: Not only did liberals never say a peep about the explosion of the debt and the deficit under Obama, but some of them even argued that the deficit and the debt were not really that big of a deal given the total value of our economy and natural resources.
Now: Holy cow! Liberals are now screaming dire warnings about the deficit and the debt! In the last four days alone, I have seen six liberal "guest analysts/commentators" on news shows feign extreme concern about the deficit and the debt.

Before: Liberals, like everyone else, considered an 8-year policy to be long term--not permanent, but long term--certainly not "temporary." They never attacked Obama's payroll-tax cut as "temporary" (it lasted two years).
Now: Oddly, liberals are describing the 8-year personal tax cuts in the Trump tax cuts as "temporary." "Temporary"?! If you accepted an offer for a job on an 8-year contract, would you describe that job as "temporary"?

Before: When Obama campaigned in 2008 and touted a $40 tax cut for middle-income people, liberals described this as "real money for working people."
Now: The Trump tax cuts will deliver two, three, and four times that much money to middle-income people, but liberals are calling those savings "peanuts" and "a pittance."

Dear mikegriffith1
thanks for a great post
It's also has the opposite of effect of turning conservatives into liberals now
1. before, conservatives were arguing not to punish the rich for making more money
But now, if taxpayers are capped at 10,000 deductions, suddenly that's only
affecting very rich people who can afford to have their deductions reduced.
Never mind if these people committed any crimes or abuses and deserve to have liberties
reduced they used to have. Suddenly that doesn't matter because the tax bill got rid of the mandate.

So this is like how liberals excused ill effects of ACA legislation just because it was "a step in the right direction" and if anyone suffered financially "that was just a small percentage and doesn't matter"

2. suddenly conservatives are okay kicking the can down the road and dumping the shortage
in budget on future taxpayers to deal with. I thought only liberals did that.

To their credit, Mark Levin is one of the few Conservative spokepeople vocally protesting
this tax bill as hypocritical. And he is a staunch conservative Constitutionalist.
So good for him!

I was one of the only Democrats vocally arguing against ACA and the insurance mandates
as unconstitutional and not providing for health care but giving handouts to corporate interests
while claiming a symbolic victory toward health care reform when this was not sustainable.

So yes there ARE Democrats and Republicans not going along with bad legislation.

This new bill is still better than the mess that ACA created that still needs to be fixed.

What I propose is to give taxpayers a choice between the two.

Let Democrats take responsibility for the ACA legislation and tweaking and adapting that to represent and serve Democratic party members and leaders who agree to fund and be under that program and tax schedule including registration and management of terms, resources and participants.

Let Republicans take on responsibility for this new tax structure.

And let taxpayers choose to opt in or out of either platform, using those reps to reform the policies to represent the membership choosing that plan.

In addition I'd recommend the Democrats take on prison reform and defunding the death penalty in order to finance the conversion of prison hospitals and facilities into medical treatment and housing centers in conjunction with medical schools and public service internships and residencies. So that the current resources expended on prison and crime costs will be converted into provisions for universal care.

And the Republicans to take on VA reform, start by reforming hospitals and administration to properly manage care for Vets instead of hundreds of them dying while waiting months for treatments, and then expanding these services to provide for elderly, disabled, and indigent care for those most in need of assistance.

The Libertarians, Greens such as Paul Glover, and Conservatives such as Sean Hannity who lobby for models of health care coops proven to work cost effectively for daily routine medical coverage can team up and replicate those models in each district. Centralizing only the facilities and programs for "catastrophic" care on a state or federal level since these are more specialized. But localing the other programs by district to meet individual demands and choices that state and federal levels cannot handle.
 
The Trump tax cuts have had an amazing effect on liberals. Consider:

Before: Liberals constantly complained that the rich weren't paying their fair share.
Now: Liberals are extremely upset that rich people can no longer deduct all of their state and local taxes and their mortgage interest.

Before: Not only did liberals never say a peep about the explosion of the debt and the deficit under Obama, but some of them even argued that the deficit and the debt were not really that big of a deal given the total value of our economy and natural resources.
Now: Holy cow! Liberals are now screaming dire warnings about the deficit and the debt! In the last four days alone, I have seen six liberal "guest analysts/commentators" on news shows feign extreme concern about the deficit and the debt.

Before: Liberals, like everyone else, considered an 8-year policy to be long term--not permanent, but long term--certainly not "temporary." They never attacked Obama's payroll-tax cut as "temporary" (it lasted two years).
Now: Oddly, liberals are describing the 8-year personal tax cuts in the Trump tax cuts as "temporary." "Temporary"?! If you accepted an offer for a job on an 8-year contract, would you describe that job as "temporary"?

Before: When Obama campaigned in 2008 and touted a $40 tax cut for middle-income people, liberals described this as "real money for working people."
Now: The Trump tax cuts will deliver two, three, and four times that much money to middle-income people, but liberals are calling those savings "peanuts" and "a pittance."
SHOCKER: David Harsanyi: Liberals Were Very Wrong About Tax Cuts. Again. To be this wrong this often deserves recognition.

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For those of you who survived the Great GOP Tax Cut Massacre, things are finally looking up. The unemployment rate fell to 3.6 percent last month, the lowest level since 1969. We've now experienced over a full year of unemployment at 4 percent or lower. The economy beat projections, adding another 263,000 jobs in April. Wages are rising.

It was Larry Summers, Bill Clinton's former treasury secretary and Barack Obama's White House economic adviser, who warned that tax reform would lead to over 10,000 dead Americans every year in December of 2017. Summers, considered a reasonable moderate by today's political standards, was just one of the many fearmongers.

The same month, after cautioning that passage of tax cuts would portend "Armageddon," then-House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi explained that the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), a reform of corporate tax codes and a wide-ranging relief, was "the worst bill in the history of the United States Congress." Worse than the Fugitive Slave Act? Worse than the Espionage Act? Worse than congressional approval of the internment of Japanese Americans? That's a really bad bill.
 

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