The biggest reason by far workers can't support themselves is they don't care...

the cluster where you clowns keep thanking and repping each other is hilarious. Groupthink is the liberal way. But truth isn't determined by a vote. Which is why liberal lawyer economics never work.

No. it is not LIBERAL.

Collectivism is a core feature of the left.

It is retarded, it does not work, which has been proven through history repeatedly, but since it is a collective IRRESPONSIBILITY which let's them be LAZY - that is why they cling so much to it.

Collectivism is a haven for weak and retarded.
 
Regarding wal-mart, McDonalds and other discussions going on across the board, there is one thing that is overwhelmingly clear. Workers need to invest in themselves by getting an education, training, working harder, working longer and paying attention to detail. Those are how they make more money, and that is their job, not taxpayers and not their employers. However, the simple ability to support themselves is more basic than that. First, my background.

I have managed people starting about six months after I graduated college in 1988. For the next 20 years, I spent about half doing two stints in GE Management (GE Information Services, GE Power Systems, GE Capital, GE Consumer Finance) and the other half in management consulting (Booz Allen, et al). Since 2009, I have bought 5 businesses. I spun two off and merged the other three and run those as a single business.

Any worker other than extreme cases of retardation or mental illness, any worker could support themselves if they do one thing. Care. Of the hundred or so people I've fired in my career, they had repeated chances and their shortcomings were well within their ability. But they made the same stupid mistakes over and over and over. My low skilled workers now have to be closely managed and their work double checked by people who do care. No matter how poor a choices workers have made in the past, if they get a job and go every day and care about the quality of their work and reliably double check it before passing it on to someone else, they would quickly earn enough to support themselves.

It's indisputable fact to anyone with any real management and business experience.

What you're saying is that millions of the jobs we have in retail in this country are not real jobs but are rather the punishment for those who through some sort of inadequacy on their part deserve to suffer.

That is sheer elitist contempt for the dignity of honest labor.

Those on the right show their contempt for labor, all the while complaining about those who do not work.

Someone has to work at restaurants, clean offices, and work retail. They deserve our respect and a living wage.

Hard to believe someone like Kaz could possibly run at business and, if true, I pity those employees who work for him.

Just to be clear, kaz is an anonymous poster on the internet who says he runs a business.

What kaz is really saying is that many businesses in America are not viable unless they are able to get people so deficient and lacking in character and intellect that they can be forced to, and expected to,

work for substandard wages.
 
the cluster where you clowns keep thanking and repping each other is hilarious. Groupthink is the liberal way. But truth isn't determined by a vote. Which is why liberal lawyer economics never work.

No. it is not LIBERAL.

Collectivism is a core feature of the left.

It is retarded, it does not work, which has been proven through history repeatedly, but since it is a collective IRRESPONSIBILITY which let's them be LAZY - that is why they cling so much to it.

Collectivism is a haven for weak and retarded.

Given that our military is the most collectivist institution in America, might you not want to rethink that indictment?

A patriot is collectivist; a sociopath is the ultimate individualist.
 
They don't care, because they're aren't paid enough for the job you want them to do.

nope. you got it wrong - they are not being paid enough for the job because they don't care.

btw, nobody is holding them at the place - they can leave and get a better pay next door.
 
the cluster where you clowns keep thanking and repping each other is hilarious. Groupthink is the liberal way. But truth isn't determined by a vote. Which is why liberal lawyer economics never work.

No. it is not LIBERAL.

Collectivism is a core feature of the left.

It is retarded, it does not work, which has been proven through history repeatedly, but since it is a collective IRRESPONSIBILITY which let's them be LAZY - that is why they cling so much to it.

Collectivism is a haven for weak and retarded.

Given that our military is the most collectivist institution in America, might you not want to rethink that indictment?

A patriot is collectivist; a sociopath is the ultimate individualist.

Bullshit.
our military is an autocratic institution necessary for the existence of this country becasue of it's very function. It is not FREE and it is not a society. It is a PROFESSION paid by a taxpayer
Such institutions are our servants, not the other way around.

The very existence of the necessary institutions serving the people has nothing to do with the way the civilian society is being built.

Got it?

Next.
 
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What about the workers who do sacrifice to get an education and still find there are no jobs out there where they can support themselves?

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Those job thieves deserve what they get. Getting a job by going four years without a job is absurd. I don't feel sorry for them just because they made a brown-nosing and unnatural sacrifice; they jumped over people with more talent who refused to sacrifice growing up just to get rich. The present class-biased indentured servitude system must be replaced with highly paid professional training, but people are so indelibly brainwashed about the Big Lie of slave education that nobody will blame it for our economic distress. It puts inferior people in superior position. Notice that their propaganda says, "To get a good job, get a good education" and not "To do a good job, get a good education." It is designed specifically for rich kids living off an allowance. People may not realize that, but they are waking up to the fact that we now live in a medieval aristocracy and it must be abolished.

College education is a fraud and should not be rewarded, especially its promotion of these conceited businessmen who think they earn their salaries but are just dumb jock bullies. This obsolete system is just as stupid and upside-down as an employer telling someone, "We'll put you in management, but first you have to work here four years at a blue-collar job without pay."

I know that the bootlickers who eventually become jackbooted economic thugs will say, "But that's different! The company would be cheating that worker out of pay for what he is produced, whereas the company doesn't make money off a college student's schoolwork." Dead wrong lie from the deadweight of this economic oligarchy. Preparation is the most important part of production. A Computer Science student's first homework assignment eventually winds up making money for his future high-tech employers. It is the seed of wealth, but this system tries to grow seeds in sand.
 
What about the workers who do sacrifice to get an education and still find there are no jobs out there where they can support themselves?

Depends on their course of study, if they have a PhD in 13th century french lesbian studies then tell them they deserve it, otherwise, tell them to keep swinging and doing the right things.

Living like a 15-year old working without pay in college so that they will never grow up. You economic bullies are sickening and refuse to take responsibility for the utter failure of your system of getting ahead. You are under the illusion that just because you are one of the few who make money off this system you must have earned it. Counterfeiters also make money.
 
The biggest reason by far workers can't support themselves is they don't care...

This is true on 3 levels...

Those who vote Republican are in essence voting for kleptocrats who outsource jobs to the lowest bidder in the lowest country so that CEOs and corporations can make boo-coo profits while keeping everyone else at slave wages.

Those who vote Democrat think that the Democrats are the same Stand by the Union Party as the 20th Century. They are not. Oh sure they'll give you your welfare and foodstamps but how has any union person been helped by Jeff Immelt outsourcing all those jobs under Obama ?

The Libertarian Party, is nothing more than a Republican protest party. Many good Libertarians get elected on the state levels but on the Federal level, to stifled by ex-Republicans.

Now the Constitution Party Constitution Party > Home is not beholden to corporatists in any way. Americans should get behind them if they want to stop Globalism and neo-feudalism and any return of the middle class to come back !!!!

This is our future if we don't.


Endgame

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Cuz they have done it in other countries....


John Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"

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What about the workers who do sacrifice to get an education and still find there are no jobs out there where they can support themselves?

Depends on their course of study, if they have a PhD in 13th century french lesbian studies then tell them they deserve it, otherwise, tell them to keep swinging and doing the right things.

Living like a 15-year old working without pay in college so that they will never grow up. You economic bullies are sickening and refuse to take responsibility for the utter failure of your system of getting ahead. You are under the illusion that just because you are one of the few who make money off this system you must have earned it. Counterfeiters also make money.

you, a collectivist leftard bully, are a failure if you don't understand that ANYBODY if they have the will and character can get from the very bottom of this country to the very high. Some - even to the very top.
 

I do realize that Conservatives off up hard work and initaitive as the answer to all problems. They then do everything in their power to ensure that hard work and intiative go unrewarded

Unless we are talking about the 1%


I'm living proof.

No College. Enlisted in the Army in 1965 for the VA College Program (my parents couldn't afford to send me to College -- No way)

Got sent off to a place I'd never heard of before.... Viet Nam. Left the Army in 1971, went home, found that I was better off telling prospective employers that I was 'down on the Farm' instead of Honorably Serving my Country. (wanna hear about prejudice? Oh yeah)

Tried College for a Month. Not for me.

Worked some good jobs and some not-so-good jobs. Left Cleveland came to Florida and when I retired thirteen years ago (at age 53) I left with almost a half-million dollars in cash and cash obligations. Maybe a little more.

Of which half is now gone :) And I don't mind one goddam bit.


And even in this SHIT market, .

Or not.

Grow up

Spoken like a truly pathetic peasant who never had the guts to stand up to the undeserved privilege that put him down. You would have been proud to die taking a rich kid's place in Vietnam and have ever since obliviously put up with the way the Greedheads and Heirheads have wrecked the country you fought for. Your cowardice has led you to blame their scapegoats and double agents pretending to be Liberals. We don't need peasant royalists in this country, we need real men who would guillotine the Nobility with No Ability.
 
good Lord, this pathetic collectivist bully didn't yet get out of his Mom's basement :lol:
 
THAT is a complete and utter lie.

Not only that, it's self-delusional and self destructive.

I'm living proof.

No College. Enlisted in the Army in 1965 for the VA College Program (my parents couldn't afford to send me to College -- No way)

Got sent off to a place I'd never heard of before.... Viet Nam. Left the Army in 1971, went home, found that I was better off telling prospective employers that I was 'down on the Farm' instead of Honorably Serving my Country. (wanna hear about prejudice? Oh yeah)

Tried College for a Month. Not for me.

Worked some good jobs and some not-so-good jobs. Left Cleveland came to Florida and when I retired thirteen years ago (at age 53) I left with almost a half-million dollars in cash and cash obligations. Maybe a little more.

Of which half is now gone :) And I don't mind one goddam bit.

So there's only one of two possibilities here... Either I am twice the Man you'll ever hope to be or times were better back then..... Like, as in, when we had Republican Leadership and dimocraps weren't dimocraps, they were democrats and a few of them were even Democrats (a now extinct brand of honorable politician).

Now..... Your party isn't even that. You're dimocraps. semi-marxist, third way, Euro-trash socialists.

And even in this SHIT market, maybe if you'd stop crying and feeling sorry for yourself and blaming everybody else for your loserdom.... Maybe you could be somebody....

Or not.

Never gonna happen until you change your mindset. You can't have the mindset of a loser and expect to have a brick hit you in the ass and make you a winner.

Don't work like that.

Grow up

Nice story, Inspirational

Has nothing to do with todays job market

I love how they address todays problems by talking about how they tended the fields when younger, delivered milk, shined shoes and built a lemonade stand

According to some, we have "way too many people" in college.

The answer is for the government to take the SS model that we have, turn it around for education and front the first 2 years of education post High School. Then as you work through out your life, you pay it back through automatic payroll deduction. So you get 60 credit hours or the equivalent to take 2 years of college courses, learn how to turn a wrench, get a certificate in cosmology or pharmacy or X-Ray tech or whatever, take courses to help with your current job; transform that BA into an MA etc....

This will bridge the gap between the jobs that ARE available and the workforce that can't fill them without either offshoring the job or onshoring the talent.

Of course government is evil so we probably should just wait for Trump to fund it, right?
 
kaz, t
"Are you okay, Sir?"

He didn't see me and I kinda startled him...

He had just gotten back from a meeting with the Union. He told them, "Look guys, we have to modernize. The Japanese are killing us."

The Union Thugs refused of course. They said, "You do that and we'll Strike and shut you down." Which for a Steel Company is catastrophic. He even promised, in writing, that there would not be ONE LAYOFF.

The refused to budge.

That's when I moved to Florida. Shortly after. The plant was shut down within the year.

And they're the ones responsible for all the SHIT that's gone down in the last four decades.

So I'm just saying, there ain't a lot of work out there anymore.


Sorry to bore you :)

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A LOT of it is where you live. If you live in a Free State instead of one controlled by dimocrap scum, you're much better off.

But someone else mentioned that today's youth doesn't want to get their hands dirty.

So true.

Why do you think 20,000,000 Illegals are here? They're finding work. No doubt about it.

Every roofing crew, ever landscaping crew, every construction you see anymore is either mostly or completely Hispanic.

Nothing wrong with that. Some hard-working people.

But why aren't Americans willing to take those jobs?

Because, frankly, it's too hard.


Some of it really is that kids today think 'work' is beneath them.


Your contempt for your fellow Americans is nothing but treason. You hate the rest of us so much that you will sell us out in a New York minute. That you have with your outsourcing to sweatshops and insourcing of cheap labor, which is the real reason for your love of Mexican peons.
 
Less time working, and more pay for jobs that require zero skills. That's the Democratic platform.

We need to educate our workforce for the jobs of tomorrow, not the jobs of yesterday. The days of growing up to work in your daddy's factory are long gone.

As a general rule, high tech jobs are not unionized. You know why? Because people with those skills are so few and far between they are in high demand and are paid accordingly.

If everyone in the workforce was highly educated, then employers in the high tech jobs of tomorrow would have the upper hand because they would have their pick of workers, and unions would be more necessary.

Instead of demanding more pay for jobs which require no skills, we need to hit the books.

Instead of demanding everyone pay for the medical insurance of people who choose to drop out of high school, we need to make bad choices come with a high penalty. One third of the involuntarily uninsured are high school dropouts, and yet the Obama and the Democrats are rewarding them with "free" health insurance.

That is the absolutely wrong direction to be going.

Nonsense.

The democratic platform has always advocated for employment and training programs designed to transition workers from the old economy to the new, in addition to providing funding sources for Americans to attend college.

Traditionally republicans have sought to defund these programs, to the detriment of the Nation.
 

A LOT of it is where you live. If you live in a Free State instead of one controlled by dimocrap scum, you're much better off.

But someone else mentioned that today's youth doesn't want to get their hands dirty.

So true.

Why do you think 20,000,000 Illegals are here? They're finding work. No doubt about it.

Every roofing crew, ever landscaping crew, every construction you see anymore is either mostly or completely Hispanic.

Nothing wrong with that. Some hard-working people.

But why aren't Americans willing to take those jobs?

Because, frankly, it's too hard.


Some of it really is that kids today think 'work' is beneath them.


Your contempt for your fellow Americans is nothing but treason. You hate the rest of us so much that you will sell us out in a New York minute. That you have with your outsourcing to sweatshops and insourcing of cheap labor, which is the real reason for your love of Mexican peons.

why shouldn't we? you are not worth a dollar for a dozen :lol: - entitled constantly whiney bitches
 
Nice story, Inspirational

Has nothing to do with todays job market

I love how they address todays problems by talking about how they tended the fields when younger, delivered milk, shined shoes and built a lemonade stand

According to some, we have "way too many people" in college.

The answer is for the government to take the SS model that we have, turn it around for education and front the first 2 years of education post High School. Then as you work through out your life, you pay it back through automatic payroll deduction. So you get 60 credit hours or the equivalent to take 2 years of college courses, learn how to turn a wrench, get a certificate in cosmology or pharmacy or X-Ray tech or whatever, take courses to help with your current job; transform that BA into an MA etc....

This will bridge the gap between the jobs that ARE available and the workforce that can't fill them without either offshoring the job or onshoring the talent.

Of course government is evil so we probably should just wait for Trump to fund it, right?

It's all about neo-feudalism. It is good that people are in college.

Too many in college, not in the South,

It is the educated middle and lower-middle class that is giving the neo-feudal plan such a problem for these Globalists.
 
Thats the way it used to be

Now you lower your expectations to come into a company at a lower level with the expectation of working your way up and there is no opportunity for advancement. Your responsibilities will increase of course but not your pay

Corporate world 2013....but at least the companies are making record profits

Bull crap, there is every opportunity. Liberals are just a bunch of lazy whiners who want everything handed to you. You're so pathetic that you can't even succeed in what is still one of the easiest countries and economies in the history of man to succeed. If you existed pretty much at any point in history you'd starve to death.

:lol: at the "blame the victim" mentality on display. The irony here is that these are the same folks who go running to the government for bailouts when they screw up and ruin everything for hardworking Americans.


That includes the Libretardians who rant about "Crony Capitalism" and that they never would take bailouts. In their delusion about their economic superiority, these conceited and irresponsible brats don't see how it is possible that such self-anointed Atlases as themselves could ever go broke in a truly free market. With that in their empty minds and hollow souls, when they inevitably will go zombie because of their toxic megalomania they'll say they're only asking for Gubmint money because the Gubmint's ruining of the free market is the only reason they failed.
 
No. it is not LIBERAL.

Collectivism is a core feature of the left.

It is retarded, it does not work, which has been proven through history repeatedly, but since it is a collective IRRESPONSIBILITY which let's them be LAZY - that is why they cling so much to it.

Collectivism is a haven for weak and retarded.

Given that our military is the most collectivist institution in America, might you not want to rethink that indictment?

A patriot is collectivist; a sociopath is the ultimate individualist.

Bullshit.
our military is an autocratic institution necessary for the existence of this country becasue of it's very function. It is not FREE and it is not a society. It is a PROFESSION paid by a taxpayer
Such institutions are our servants, not the other way around.

The very existence of the necessary institutions serving the people has nothing to do with the way the civilian society is being built.

Got it?

Next.

You just admitted that collectivism is necessary for the existence of this country.

Thanks.
 

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