The Common Denominator: Islam

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The problem is that Islam is a medieval religion that never went through a Reformation.

The most vicious things Christians did- The genocide of Native Americans, the Thirty Years War, the World Wars - came after they were "Reformed".

And still a vastly larger number than all the people killed by Islam

"The most vicious things Christians did blah blah blah...."

I can't resist:


First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million

Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million

Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million

Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million

Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million

People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s

regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million

Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000

Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million

Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million

China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000

China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million

Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million

North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million

Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million

Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million

Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million

Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million

Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million

Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million

Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million

Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000

Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000

French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000

Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000

Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000

Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000

Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000

Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000

Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Vietnam, postwar Communist regime

(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000

Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000

East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000

Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000

Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000

Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000





OK?

"The most vicious things Christians did...."

So...how about trading that college one-liner for one based on facts: every genocide of the 20th century....the century of genocide....was carried out by Big Government.

 

[JoeB131]

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Oh, yes....I really did.

Muslims were behaving as they do now before there was a United States.

Proven in post #577

I actually had to go back and find out if that was as retarded as I suspected it would be.

Okay, boiling it down, PC's argument was that the Muslims were bad in the past because the Barbary States raided ships and took White People into slavery. Ohhhhh, nooes.

Okay, in that time period, you cite a figure of 1 million or so Europeans who got snatched.

In that same time period you cited, between the 16th and 19th centuries, Europeans first enslaved the people of the New World, resulting in the death of millions because they just were used to being worked to death like European Peasants were.

They then had the brilliant idea to bring African slaves over. About 11 million were brought over, about 1.5 million died in transit. That's not counting all the slaves who died on raids to capture them.

So wait, again, so the Barbary Pirates capture 1.5 million Europeans, and they are evil.

BUt the Europeans capture and enslave 13 million or so Africans, and they are good because they taught them about Jesus...

Am I getting your logic right here, PC?

Because it seems like you are exaggerating Islamic offenses while downplaying Christian ones.

 

[boedicca]

OK?

"The most vicious things Christians did...."

So...how about trading that college one-liner for one based on facts: every genocide of the 20th century....the century of genocide....was carried out by Big Government.

Indeed - it's not the Christians who have the huge body counts against their own people, let alone anyone else.


128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS
4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

 

[PoliticalChic]

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Oh, yes....I really did.

Muslims were behaving as they do now before there was a United States.

Proven in post #577

I actually had to go back and find out if that was as retarded as I suspected it would be.

Okay, boiling it down, PC's argument was that the Muslims were bad in the past because the Barbary States raided ships and took White People into slavery. Ohhhhh, nooes.

Okay, in that time period, you cite a figure of 1 million or so Europeans who got snatched.

In that same time period you cited, between the 16th and 19th centuries, Europeans first enslaved the people of the New World, resulting in the death of millions because they just were used to being worked to death like European Peasants were.

They then had the brilliant idea to bring African slaves over. About 11 million were brought over, about 1.5 million died in transit. That's not counting all the slaves who died on raids to capture them.

So wait, again, so the Barbary Pirates capture 1.5 million Europeans, and they are evil.

BUt the Europeans capture and enslave 13 million or so Africans, and they are good because they taught them about Jesus...

Am I getting your logic right here, PC?

Because it seems like you are exaggerating Islamic offenses while downplaying Christian ones.

"Okay, boiling it down..."

You found zero errors in post #577.

In particular, you read that the Q'ran dictated attacking innocents if they were not Muslim.


Case closed?

 

[JoeB131]

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The problem is that Islam is a medieval religion that never went through a Reformation.

The most vicious things Christians did- The genocide of Native Americans, the Thirty Years War, the World Wars - came after they were "Reformed".

And still a vastly larger number than all the people killed by Islam

"The most vicious things Christians did blah blah blah...."

I can't resist:


First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million

Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million

Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million

Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million

Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million

People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s

regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million

Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000

Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million

Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million

China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000

China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million

Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million

North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million

Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million

Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million

Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million

Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million

Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million

Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million

Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million

Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000

Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000

French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000

Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000

Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000

Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000

Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000

Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000

Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Vietnam, postwar Communist regime

(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000

Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000

East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000

Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000

Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000

Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000





OK?

"The most vicious things Christians did...."

So...how about trading that college one-liner for one based on facts: every genocide of the 20th century....the century of genocide....was carried out by Big Government.

I'm seeing very few things by Muslims on that list.

So let's look at World War I. - Anglicans and Orthodox vs. Lutherans and Catholics.

You forgot to throw in the 30 year war, which killed 8 million people and was the bloodiest war in history up until World War I, and was fought amongst christians arguing about whether Jesus was made of wafers or not.

 

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[

The problem is that Islam is a medieval religion that never went through a Reformation.

The most vicious things Christians did- The genocide of Native Americans, the Thirty Years War, the World Wars - came after they were "Reformed".

And still a vastly larger number than all the people killed by Islam

"The most vicious things Christians did blah blah blah...."

I can't resist:


First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million

Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million

Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million

Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million

Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million

People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s

regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million

Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000

Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million

Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million

China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000

China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million

Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million

North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million

Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million

Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million

Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million

Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million

Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million

Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million

Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million

Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000

Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000

French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000

Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000

Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000

Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000

Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000

Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000

Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Vietnam, postwar Communist regime

(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000

Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000

East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000

Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000

Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000

Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000





OK?

"The most vicious things Christians did...."

So...how about trading that college one-liner for one based on facts: every genocide of the 20th century....the century of genocide....was carried out by Big Government.

I'm seeing very few things by Muslims on that list.

So let's look at World War I. - Anglicans and Orthodox vs. Lutherans and Catholics.

You forgot to throw in the 30 year war, which killed 8 million people and was the bloodiest war in history up until World War I, and was fought amongst christians arguing about whether Jesus was made of wafers or not.

WWI was not a religious war, bub.

 

[JoeB131]

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There never was a "genocide of Native Americans."

Only America haters propound that slander.

Raise your paw.

Well, as someone who is part Cherokee, I beg to differ. Never heard of the "Trail of Tears".

Hey, what happened to the INcas and the Aztecs?

Demographic history of the indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

A fun time was had by all.

 

[JoeB131]

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WWI was not a religious war, bub.

I would disagree. The Tsar was the head of the Russian Church, the King of Britain the head of the Church of England. the Hapsburg Monarchs were joined at the Hip with the Catholic Church. (The Catholics are still trying to canonize the last Hapsburg Emperor, Karl I.)

The Kaiser's Army, like Hitler's, wore belt buckles that said "Gott Mit Uns".

 

[boedicca]

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WWI was not a religious war, bub.

I would disagree. The Tsar was the head of the Russian Church, the King of Britain the head of the Church of England. the Hapsburg Monarchs were joined at the Hip with the Catholic Church. (The Catholics are still trying to canonize the last Hapsburg Emperor, Karl I.)

The Kaiser's Army, like Hitler's, wore belt buckles that said "Gott Mit Uns".

I think you should read up on who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand...and who their ideological influences were.

 

[JoeB131]

[]

I think you should read up on who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand...and who their ideological influences were.

Serbian Nationalists.

Completely irrelevent to my point. The problem was not that Franz got killed. It was that all these Good Christian Powers completely overreacted to it.

Germany gave Austria a "blank check" to deal with Serbia. It was a huge mistake.

 

[boedicca]

[]

I think you should read up on who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand...and who their ideological influences were.

Serbian Nationalists.

Completely irrelevent to my point. The problem was not that Franz got killed. It was that all these Good Christian Powers completely overreacted to it.

Germany gave Austria a "blank check" to deal with Serbia. It was a huge mistake.

Condolences on your historic illiteracy.

 

[JoeB131]

[]

I think you should read up on who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand...and who their ideological influences were.

Serbian Nationalists.

Completely irrelevent to my point. The problem was not that Franz got killed. It was that all these Good Christian Powers completely overreacted to it.

Germany gave Austria a "blank check" to deal with Serbia. It was a huge mistake.

Condolences on your historic illiteracy.

I've got a degree in history, and yes, it's the version that is taught on most college campuses where they don't teach about Talking Snakes in science class.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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There never was a "genocide of Native Americans."

Only America haters propound that slander.

Raise your paw.

Well, as someone who is part Cherokee, I beg to differ. Never heard of the "Trail of Tears".

Hey, what happened to the INcas and the Aztecs?

Demographic history of the indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

A fun time was had by all.

Aren't you embarrassed at how, with metronomic regularity, I show that you know less than nothing???


I almost feel sorry for you.

I said almost.



1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. There is the romanticized view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.
It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans

2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”
No such thing happened.

3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923, Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide ?in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".


4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20th Century, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.


The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

Go ahead.....the plague began in Egypt....so you'll have to claim it was an Arab genocide.


Double dog dare ya.'

 

[boedicca]

[]

I think you should read up on who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand...and who their ideological influences were.

Serbian Nationalists.

Completely irrelevent to my point. The problem was not that Franz got killed. It was that all these Good Christian Powers completely overreacted to it.

Germany gave Austria a "blank check" to deal with Serbia. It was a huge mistake.

Condolences on your historic illiteracy.

I've got a degree in history, and yes, it's the version that is taught on most college campuses where they don't teach about Talking Snakes in science class.

It's not surprising that you are a thoroughly brainwashed progressive.

 

[PoliticalChic]

[]

I think you should read up on who assassinated Archduke Ferdinand...and who their ideological influences were.

Serbian Nationalists.

Completely irrelevent to my point. The problem was not that Franz got killed. It was that all these Good Christian Powers completely overreacted to it.

Germany gave Austria a "blank check" to deal with Serbia. It was a huge mistake.

Condolences on your historic illiteracy.

I've got a degree in history, and yes, it's the version that is taught on most college campuses where they don't teach about Talking Snakes in science class.

"I've got a degree in history,..."

Results not in evidence.

 

[JoeB131]

Aren't you embarrassed at how, with metronomic regularity, I show that you know less than nothing???

I almost feel sorry for you.

I said almost.


1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. .'

Infectous diseases that the White Man intentionally spread. You know, like giving the Indians SmallPox infected blankets.

"The only good Indian is a Dead Indian" - General Philip Sheridan

Sheridan was also famous for encouraging the slaughter of the Bison so that the Indians wouldn't have a food source.

 

[JoeB131]

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"I've got a degree in history,..."

Results not in evidence.

Why don't you take your whacky views down to a real university and see how they are treated.

Just for fun.

 

[JoeB131]

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It's not surprising that you are a thoroughly brainwashed progressive.

Up until 2008 I was Republican.

Then my Romney-loving boss screwed me over when I was injured in an accident.

I call it knowing who my enemies are.

The only brainwashed people I see here are Wingnuts like you who vote against your own economic interests because Jesus said so.

 

[boedicca]

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"I've got a degree in history,..."

Results not in evidence.

Why don't you take your whacky views down to a real university and see how they are treated.

Just for fun.

There are very few real Universities these days. Most are Centers for Indoctrination and Promotion of Progressive Statism.

I can see how that worked for you.

 

[JoeB131]

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There are very few real Universities these days. Most are Centers for Indoctrination and Promotion of Progressive Statism.

I can see how that worked for you.

Yup, if they don't teach you to love "Murica" they are clearly Indoctrinating people.