The COVID Revolt!

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Probably explains the surge in cases...

Two million plus tests a day explains the surge in cases.

Ah yes forgot..stop testing and the cases will disappear..no more COVID.

Okay Aristotle if you don't test then how do you know someone has Covid? And if you increase testing the cases increase....ddduuuhhhh!

 

[Rigby5]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Right.....and each of them has their own view about the effectiveness of a mask among other things. So they figure people have common sense and can do whatever they want to do...like in America where most of us believe that.

Why are you talking about freedom and control? I’m not saying doctors are trying force people to do anything they don’t want to do. I’m asking what their professions medical opinions are and you keep distorting the discussion. I don’t believe that you spoke directly with any doctors that truly believe that masking and distancing are not effective and that’s why you are dancing around the question

No doctors believe masks are a good idea for everyone in an epidemic.
They say they should only be worn by the very vulnerable.
The least loss of life comes from accelerating local burn out, where the virus can't find a new host because all the contacts are already infected.
That is the only thing that has ever ended any epidemic, and is the way to save the most lives.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge.

Wrong.
Covid-19 can itself not cause any harm and can not cause pneumonia, but the immune system can over react with a cytokine storm, which can mascerate the lungs into a bloody pulp.
It would not have happened if not for the covid trigger, but it is not covid doing any of the harm to the lungs.

Gotchya. So COVId triggers it but is not responsible. I guess all the gun deaths in America are caused by guns and not those pulling the trigger. Right? ;-)

The issue is why is every death now termed a Covid death even though the actual cause of death is not Covid, when in the past the actual cause of death was listed on the death certificate.

 

[Slade3200]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

 

[Slade3200]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Right.....and each of them has their own view about the effectiveness of a mask among other things. So they figure people have common sense and can do whatever they want to do...like in America where most of us believe that.

Why are you talking about freedom and control? I’m not saying doctors are trying force people to do anything they don’t want to do. I’m asking what their professions medical opinions are and you keep distorting the discussion. I don’t believe that you spoke directly with any doctors that truly believe that masking and distancing are not effective and that’s why you are dancing around the question

No doctors believe masks are a good idea for everyone in an epidemic.
They say they should only be worn by the very vulnerable.
The least loss of life comes from accelerating local burn out, where the virus can't find a new host because all the contacts are already infected.
That is the only thing that has ever ended any epidemic, and is the way to save the most lives.

That’s another lie. Where in the hell are you getting your information? Are we in the twilight zone?

 

[Slade3200]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

Show me a respectable Dr that says that crap

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

Show me a respectable Dr that says that crap

My boss, my doctor, his coworker, just as many like them as don't.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Probably explains the surge in cases...

Two million plus tests a day explains the surge in cases.

Ah yes forgot..stop testing and the cases will disappear..no more COVID.

Okay Aristotle if you don't test then how do you know someone has Covid? And if you increase testing the cases increase....ddduuuhhhh!

I said the surge is partly due to super spreader events and anti-maskers and you rant about 'tests'. Get back on topic..dduuuhhh!

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

Show me a respectable Dr that says that crap

My boss, my doctor, his coworker, just as many like them as don't.

I guess Fauci is an independent since he changes his mind.....

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Probably explains the surge in cases...

Two million plus tests a day explains the surge in cases.

Ah yes forgot..stop testing and the cases will disappear..no more COVID.

Okay Aristotle if you don't test then how do you know someone has Covid? And if you increase testing the cases increase....ddduuuhhhh!

I said the surge is partly due to super spreader events and anti-maskers and you rant about 'tests'. Get back on topic..dduuuhhh!

You have no idea what any "spike" is caused from since you never have any statistics to back up your babbling......duuuh

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge.

Wrong.
Covid-19 can itself not cause any harm and can not cause pneumonia, but the immune system can over react with a cytokine storm, which can mascerate the lungs into a bloody pulp.
It would not have happened if not for the covid trigger, but it is not covid doing any of the harm to the lungs.

Gotchya. So COVId triggers it but is not responsible. I guess all the gun deaths in America are caused by guns and not those pulling the trigger. Right? ;-)

The issue is why is every death now termed a Covid death even though the actual cause of death is not Covid, when in the past the actual cause of death was listed on the death certificate.

Give me an example of a pure COVID death. What does that mean to you?

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Probably explains the surge in cases...

Two million plus tests a day explains the surge in cases.

Ah yes forgot..stop testing and the cases will disappear..no more COVID.

Okay Aristotle if you don't test then how do you know someone has Covid? And if you increase testing the cases increase....ddduuuhhhh!

I said the surge is partly due to super spreader events and anti-maskers and you rant about 'tests'. Get back on topic..dduuuhhh!

And again, the mask mandate states have the highest infection and mortality rates......remember that statistic easy to look up on Worldmeters?

 

[Slade3200]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

Show me a respectable Dr that says that crap

My boss, my doctor, his coworker, just as many like them as don't.

I guess Fauci is an independent since he changes his mind.....

Everybody changes their mind as they are learning and new intel is presented

 

[jbrownson0831]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge.

Wrong.
Covid-19 can itself not cause any harm and can not cause pneumonia, but the immune system can over react with a cytokine storm, which can mascerate the lungs into a bloody pulp.
It would not have happened if not for the covid trigger, but it is not covid doing any of the harm to the lungs.

Gotchya. So COVId triggers it but is not responsible. I guess all the gun deaths in America are caused by guns and not those pulling the trigger. Right? ;-)

The issue is why is every death now termed a Covid death even though the actual cause of death is not Covid, when in the past the actual cause of death was listed on the death certificate.

Give me an example of a pure COVID death. What does that mean to you?

I don't think there is such a thing.....yet all the deaths are listed as Covid because the person had tested positive.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

Show me a respectable Dr that says that crap

My boss, my doctor, his coworker, just as many like them as don't.

I guess Fauci is an independent since he changes his mind.....

Everybody changes their mind as they are learning and new intel is presented

No, not the "experts".....

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge.

Wrong.
Covid-19 can itself not cause any harm and can not cause pneumonia, but the immune system can over react with a cytokine storm, which can mascerate the lungs into a bloody pulp.
It would not have happened if not for the covid trigger, but it is not covid doing any of the harm to the lungs.

Gotchya. So COVId triggers it but is not responsible. I guess all the gun deaths in America are caused by guns and not those pulling the trigger. Right? ;-)

The issue is why is every death now termed a Covid death even though the actual cause of death is not Covid, when in the past the actual cause of death was listed on the death certificate.

Give me an example of a pure COVID death. What does that mean to you?

I don't think there is such a thing.....yet all the deaths are listed as Covid because the person had tested positive.

Gotchya so there is no such thing as a COVID death. It’s crazy how the whole world could be so delusional. Or maybe it’s you. Hmmm gotta ponder that one for a bit!

 

[Slade3200]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

Show me a respectable Dr that says that crap

My boss, my doctor, his coworker, just as many like them as don't.

I guess Fauci is an independent since he changes his mind.....

Everybody changes their mind as they are learning and new intel is presented

No, not the "experts".....

Especially the experts

 

[jbrownson0831]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge.

Wrong.
Covid-19 can itself not cause any harm and can not cause pneumonia, but the immune system can over react with a cytokine storm, which can mascerate the lungs into a bloody pulp.
It would not have happened if not for the covid trigger, but it is not covid doing any of the harm to the lungs.

Gotchya. So COVId triggers it but is not responsible. I guess all the gun deaths in America are caused by guns and not those pulling the trigger. Right? ;-)

The issue is why is every death now termed a Covid death even though the actual cause of death is not Covid, when in the past the actual cause of death was listed on the death certificate.

Give me an example of a pure COVID death. What does that mean to you?

I don't think there is such a thing.....yet all the deaths are listed as Covid because the person had tested positive.

Gotchya so there is no such thing as a COVID death. It’s crazy how the whole world could be so delusional. Or maybe it’s you. Hmmm gotta ponder that one for a bit!

Not at all.....libbers have to hype the virus so every death is a Covid death...even at the demise of all other forms of death and the total total staying the same.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

No very few if any serious doctors are saying that.

Baloney

Show me a respectable Dr that says that crap

My boss, my doctor, his coworker, just as many like them as don't.

I guess Fauci is an independent since he changes his mind.....

Everybody changes their mind as they are learning and new intel is presented

No, not the "experts".....

Especially the experts

Well if experts change their minds every week what is the decision maker supposed to do? Throw darts at a board?