The COVID Revolt!

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

Use my brain? Use yours....you just throw out the stats you don;t like.

I throw out stats that are irrelevant like the ones you are using. Nothing is more relevant that hospital capacity and total number of deaths.

your death rate calculations based on cases really doesn’t mean much of anything. I guess it shows we have improved our treatments which is great but again not really relevant if hospitalizations and deaths are surging

The Worldmeters statistics are by far the most accurate metrics we have on Covid and/or the really harmful diseases. And nothing is simpler or more accurate than dividing deaths into cases.....that's how we know how deadly killer Cuomo and his band of Gruesome Governors in 5 other states contributed nearly half the US deaths. And hospitalizations are not surging nationally, just locally. And many deaths are not caused by Covid.

I don’t believe you

Of course not, liberals hate statistics.

I love stats. I don’t believe your being accurate with what you say

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

So do many other things....colds, flu, bronchitis, mersa.....etc, etc.

Correct

 

[Slade3200]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that causes pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge

And I thought that it was common knowledge that a pneumonia death is a pneumonia death.

A car accident may cause a blunt force trauma death... however the death was still caused by the car accident. You’re making the case that it’s not a car accident death, it’s a blunt force trauma death... Get it?

 

[jbrownson0831]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

Use my brain? Use yours....you just throw out the stats you don;t like.

I throw out stats that are irrelevant like the ones you are using. Nothing is more relevant that hospital capacity and total number of deaths.

your death rate calculations based on cases really doesn’t mean much of anything. I guess it shows we have improved our treatments which is great but again not really relevant if hospitalizations and deaths are surging

The Worldmeters statistics are by far the most accurate metrics we have on Covid and/or the really harmful diseases. And nothing is simpler or more accurate than dividing deaths into cases.....that's how we know how deadly killer Cuomo and his band of Gruesome Governors in 5 other states contributed nearly half the US deaths. And hospitalizations are not surging nationally, just locally. And many deaths are not caused by Covid.

I don’t believe you

Of course not, liberals hate statistics.

I love stats. I don’t believe your being accurate with what you say

I am not saying it, just quoting them

 

[jbrownson0831]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that causes pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge

And I thought that it was common knowledge that a pneumonia death is a pneumonia death.

A car accident may cause a blunt force trauma death... however the death was still caused by the car accident. You’re making the case that it’s not a car accident death, it’s a blunt force trauma death... Get it?

And in the past, if a person contracted pneumonia from a cut finger or cigarette smoking or mersa, the cause of death was pneumonia. Get that?

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Right.....and each of them has their own view about the effectiveness of a mask among other things. So they figure people have common sense and can do whatever they want to do...like in America where most of us believe that.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Probably explains the surge in cases...

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

Use my brain? Use yours....you just throw out the stats you don;t like.

I throw out stats that are irrelevant like the ones you are using. Nothing is more relevant that hospital capacity and total number of deaths.

your death rate calculations based on cases really doesn’t mean much of anything. I guess it shows we have improved our treatments which is great but again not really relevant if hospitalizations and deaths are surging

The Worldmeters statistics are by far the most accurate metrics we have on Covid and/or the really harmful diseases. And nothing is simpler or more accurate than dividing deaths into cases.....that's how we know how deadly killer Cuomo and his band of Gruesome Governors in 5 other states contributed nearly half the US deaths. And hospitalizations are not surging nationally, just locally. And many deaths are not caused by Covid.

I don’t believe you

Of course not, liberals hate statistics.

I love stats. I don’t believe your being accurate with what you say

I am not saying it, just quoting them

Quoting and saying are the same thing. Either way I don’t believe you are being accurate

 

[Rigby5]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge.

Wrong.
Covid-19 can itself not cause any harm and can not cause pneumonia, but the immune system can over react with a cytokine storm, which can mascerate the lungs into a bloody pulp.
It would not have happened if not for the covid trigger, but it is not covid doing any of the harm to the lungs.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

Use my brain? Use yours....you just throw out the stats you don;t like.

I throw out stats that are irrelevant like the ones you are using. Nothing is more relevant that hospital capacity and total number of deaths.

your death rate calculations based on cases really doesn’t mean much of anything. I guess it shows we have improved our treatments which is great but again not really relevant if hospitalizations and deaths are surging

The Worldmeters statistics are by far the most accurate metrics we have on Covid and/or the really harmful diseases. And nothing is simpler or more accurate than dividing deaths into cases.....that's how we know how deadly killer Cuomo and his band of Gruesome Governors in 5 other states contributed nearly half the US deaths. And hospitalizations are not surging nationally, just locally. And many deaths are not caused by Covid.

I don’t believe you

Of course not, liberals hate statistics.

I love stats. I don’t believe your being accurate with what you say

I am not saying it, just quoting them

Quoting and saying are the same thing. Either way I don’t believe you are being accurate

Then go look them up yourself Forrest.....I only chime in when you libbers get way off in your zombievirus ranting.....

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Probably explains the surge in cases...

Two million plus tests a day explains the surge in cases.

 

[Rigby5]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that causes pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge

And I thought that it was common knowledge that a pneumonia death is a pneumonia death.

A car accident may cause a blunt force trauma death... however the death was still caused by the car accident. You’re making the case that it’s not a car accident death, it’s a blunt force trauma death... Get it?

But you are wrong.
Covid can NOT cause pneumonia at all, in any way.
The fact the immune system can over react to the detection of covid and cause pneumonia, is not the same as saying covid can cause pneumonia.
A child can step out into the street and cause a semi driver to swerve, go over railing and get smashed on the rocks below.
But no one would say a child can smash a semi truck.

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that causes pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge

And I thought that it was common knowledge that a pneumonia death is a pneumonia death.

A car accident may cause a blunt force trauma death... however the death was still caused by the car accident. You’re making the case that it’s not a car accident death, it’s a blunt force trauma death... Get it?

And in the past, if a person contracted pneumonia from a cut finger or cigarette smoking or mersa, the cause of death was pneumonia. Get that?

yes I do get that. Let me ask you what a true COVID or even a flu death looks like??

 

[Slade3200]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Right.....and each of them has their own view about the effectiveness of a mask among other things. So they figure people have common sense and can do whatever they want to do...like in America where most of us believe that.

Why are you talking about freedom and control? I’m not saying doctors are trying force people to do anything they don’t want to do. I’m asking what their professions medical opinions are and you keep distorting the discussion. I don’t believe that you spoke directly with any doctors that truly believe that masking and distancing are not effective and that’s why you are dancing around the question

 

[Rigby5]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Any medical professional should tell you that all epidemics once established, are and can only be ended by herd immunity.
And then actually you do not then want to "flatten the curve", but instead accelerate infection locally, within those who are least vulnerable, as quickly as possible. Delaying infection rates only makes it last longer, which then kills far more.

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that can cause pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge.

Wrong.
Covid-19 can itself not cause any harm and can not cause pneumonia, but the immune system can over react with a cytokine storm, which can mascerate the lungs into a bloody pulp.
It would not have happened if not for the covid trigger, but it is not covid doing any of the harm to the lungs.

Gotchya. So COVId triggers it but is not responsible. I guess all the gun deaths in America are caused by guns and not those pulling the trigger. Right? ;-)

 

[Ben Thomson]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Probably explains the surge in cases...

Two million plus tests a day explains the surge in cases.

Ah yes forgot..stop testing and the cases will disappear..no more COVID.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Americans are revolting against the illegal, unconstitutional shut downs. Apparently "freedom threatens those in authority."

"A diner in Michigan is open for business despite being told to close. A barbershop here, a crafts store there, churches, synagogues, temples — what makes this COVID revolt different is that the businesses that are defying lockdown orders are being swarmed by customers — many coming from miles away — just to support the defiance. It’s the most demonstrative political statement being made today and authorities who would try to enforce their edicts are playing with fire."

"The short notice taped to the door is addressed ‘to all government officials’. It gives them a warning: ‘You are in violation of your oath of office by trespassing unlawfully on the property of this business establishment and committing an act of terrorism under Section 802 of the Patriot Act.’ Taped up next to it, a longer warning in black and set-off red type, with Title 18 from the United States Code copied out underneath."

The Extraordinary Rise of the COVID Rebels

pjmedia.com

Awesome!! Keep up the fight as over 3000 a day die and hospitals continue to get overwhelmed. Y’all are wonderful Americans!! *that’s sarcasm

Baloney and more bs propaganda from the libbers....

What’s BS? That more people are dying or that hospitals are filling up? Please explain why you’re calling it BS

Since only .19% of the US is currently infected with Covid and .46% of that total has a critical case, BS. So "hospitals" are not filling up and the Covid "related" deaths don't mean the person died because of Covid. BS.

You are claiming that hospitals are lying based on stats your getting from case studies? Do you understand what kind of vast conspiracy that would need to be afoot by thousands of independently run hospitals to make your claims a reality? How utterly unrealistic that is?! You should really think more before you make such idiotic claims

Isolated specific hospitals I am sure are busy, like in the illegal sanctuary city of El Paso....of course there are others. But overall, in the breadth of the US, the hospitals are quiet and the actual statistics bear that out. You libbers all say statistics are idiotic, but only because you refuse to look them up and only want to go by your propagandized media. You are the one who should do the thinking, for me its easy, I simply go to where they keep the actual facts and statistics.

I very much doubt you have spent any time really looking at the status of hospitals... your posts reek of political reactions and not thoughtful analysis. Where do you live?

Sure I do....whenever I see or hear one of these propaganda pieces I look at hospital occupancy rates in that area and also the volumes of tests run and positives, and critical cases. I look at all the stats. Plus the contacts we have in many hospitals across the US, and the 102 people I personally know who have had Covid add to my informational background. How bout you?

I know many people in the medical field and work with traveling nurses so I get most my trusted intel from people working the front lines.

And I do too.....so wonder why the difference in reality??

What are your nurse and doctor friends telling you? Don’t wear a mask it’s all a hoax?

They say do whatever you want to do. Like any reasonable person would suggest.

Haha. They give professional and medical recommendations. By your response I can tell youre full of shit and not actually engaging with medical professionals. Nice try. You’re playing politics and your not being sly about it

Right.....and each of them has their own view about the effectiveness of a mask among other things. So they figure people have common sense and can do whatever they want to do...like in America where most of us believe that.

Why are you talking about freedom and control? I’m not saying doctors are trying force people to do anything they don’t want to do. I’m asking what their professions medical opinions are and you keep distorting the discussion. I don’t believe that you spoke directly with any doctors that truly believe that masking and distancing are not effective and that’s why you are dancing around the question

Distorting what? If you think every doctor believes masks are effective for this virus then you are naive. Of course washing hands and distancing is effective and we have been doing those things for years and years without Democrats telling us not to sneece in someone's face. This is ALL about freedom and control and pretending that it isn't again makes you naive.

 

[Slade3200]

Pretty much impossible to rid a country of a deadly, highly contagious virus when 40% refuses to take it seriously.

95% survival rate is not 'deadly'

Actually its 98.2% overall and 99% plus if under 65.

What’s the hospitalization rate?

27,318 cases out of 6,335,867 active for a .43% or less than a half a percent of all active cases. Why, is that math too tough for you??

I don’t really care about cases. That number is arbitrary as we aren’t testing every citizen. I care about people in the hospital and people who are dying.

You can't care about deaths without comparing them to total cases because the mortality rate continues to drop every day. And the 2 million plus tests a day gives you more cases which gives you some additional deaths. But the overall US numbers are small compared to our population.....a .19% active infection rate is tiny.

You don’t know total cases, we don’t test everybody. Cases are simply an indicator of what’s to come and a way to slow the spread by triggering quarantines and contact tracing. We have no clue how many actually cases there are or have been. Are you really basing your position on case calculations?! Come on man, use your brain.

And therefore likewise we have no real idea of the actual deaths....so we go by what we have and they prove the virus to be a big fat hoax.

We have a much more accurate sense of deaths because they most often happen in hospitals and are followed up by death certificates. Cases are only measured by those who get tested which is not a high percentage. Why do I need to explain this to you? This is basic stuff.

Actually we do not have an accurate sense of deaths because they most often are actually pneumonia and are being attributed to covid-19 because the person tested positive. While they most likely would not have died right away if not for contracting covid-19, they likely are over 70 and already very fragile. That does not make covid-19 some dangerous killer.

Covid causes Pneumonia genius. What exactly do you think a COVID death is?

I think Covid is a flu virus and pneumonia is pneumonia. So if you are admitting Covid deaths are really pneumonia deaths then we may be getting somewhere.

Covid is a respiratory virus that causes pneumonia in sever cases and that is often the cause of death. I thought that was common knowledge

And I thought that it was common knowledge that a pneumonia death is a pneumonia death.

A car accident may cause a blunt force trauma death... however the death was still caused by the car accident. You’re making the case that it’s not a car accident death, it’s a blunt force trauma death... Get it?

But you are wrong.
Covid can NOT cause pneumonia at all, in any way.
The fact the immune system can over react to the detection of covid and cause pneumonia, is not the same as saying covid can cause pneumonia.
A child can step out into the street and cause a semi driver to swerve, go over railing and get smashed on the rocks below.
But no one would say a child can smash a semi truck.

Haha, that was a great attempt but a huge logic miss on that analogy. I do applaud the effort though. You need to do more research on Covid and pneumonia. Don’t think I didn’t notice that thumbs up jbrownson0831

Here:
What is novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia?

The illness tied to the new coronavirus was originally called novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia (NCIP). The World Health Organization renamed it COVID-19, which is short for coronavirus disease 2019.

Coronavirus and Pneumonia

Pneumonia is a serious complication of the new coronavirus, also known as COVID-19. This lung illness may cause severe breathing problems that put you in the hospital. Learn the warning signs, who’s at risk, and steps you can take to prevent infection.

www.webmd.com