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What's the difference in you desperately trying to ignore the obvious in attempts to make the counterpoint?
You are an expert at this rhetoric ... But yours is the same argumentative bullshit.
I'm not making a point there. I'm shooting one down.
Yours,
Captain Obvious
In generating a response demonstrating an emphasis in contrast to the same applicable argument ... You did in fact make a counterpoint, whether or not you intended to ... And I did identify it as a counterpoint ... not a point.
I'm not making a point there. I'm shooting one down.
Yours,
Captain Obvious
In generating a response demonstrating an emphasis in contrast to the same applicable argument ... You did in fact make a counterpoint, whether or not you intended to ... And I did identify it as a counterpoint ... not a point.
No, it's called satire; taking the adversary's point to its obviously absurd conclusion in order to demonstrate that absurdity.
That's precisely what I want to know. Does he have a history of violence? We're talking about Tampa Florida here. Not considered the Athens of the Fulf Coast. How could someone capable of such bad decision making be trusted as a police officer?The assailant was an insane cop. What's in his service record? What history of violence did he carry into that theater along with his handgun?
You are calling him an insane cop now, after the fact. What proof do you have that he didn't have a stellar record as an officer?
the 911 call is also on the site
worth listening to
Listen to 911 caller report Grand Rapids man with holstered gun; federal lawsuit follows | MLive.com
Yeah well ... I think the dispatcher handled the caller better than the police handled the man.
If the responding officer had any guts at all and knew the law ... They should have approached him differently.
There was no cause for excessive alarm from the caller ... There was no indication of imminent danger.
Unlawful detention could be an issue, although I would be less likely to pursue that if the police officer isn't an ass.
There were two firearms involved in the initial encounter ... And the only person pointing one at somebody and threatening them at the same time was the responding officer.
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the dispatcher certainly did appear more professional and knowledgeable then the officer
the kid had to set the officer straight every step of the way
including when the officer told him to reload his firearm after he left
the kid said he could not do that because then he would be brandishing a firearm
The presence of guns escalates the chances of gun violence.
There is no downside to carrying a weapon.
Are you trying to justify the shooting? A SWAT team member is faced down with a cell phone and movie theater popcorn and then he makes the choice to draw and fire?!? And somehow this all makes sense?The assailant was an insane cop. What's in his service record? What history of violence did he carry into that theater along with his handgun?
He was a captain and a member of SWAT. That means that, in addition to the extensive background and psych tests he went through to be a cop, he had to pass through extra screening, and receive additional training, to handle all sorts of different situations that are not in the purview of a beat cop. I guess they forgot to cover parents with cell phones.
Keep arguing with me, the more you argue, the better my case.
There is no downside to carrying a weapon.
You are either lying or have failed to think out your post.
In generating a response demonstrating an emphasis in contrast to the same applicable argument ... You did in fact make a counterpoint, whether or not you intended to ... And I did identify it as a counterpoint ... not a point.
No, it's called satire; taking the adversary's point to its obviously absurd conclusion in order to demonstrate that absurdity.
It doesn't matter if you used satire when you made your counterpoint ... And intention is irrelevant to definition in that case.
The presence of guns escalates the chances of gun violence.
The presence of guns also stops gun violence.
There is no downside to carrying a weapon.
You are either lying or have failed to think out your post.
True. The obvious downside is you don't know how to use it.
No, it's called satire; taking the adversary's point to its obviously absurd conclusion in order to demonstrate that absurdity.
It doesn't matter if you used satire when you made your counterpoint ... And intention is irrelevant to definition in that case.
The only "counterpoint" was that the strawman argument is absurd. But that's always the point of satire.
Had I actually intended to float the proposition that "guns don't kill people, bullets kill people" as if it could be a productive argument, that would have been a counterpoint. It wasn't.
Yeah well ... I think the dispatcher handled the caller better than the police handled the man.
If the responding officer had any guts at all and knew the law ... They should have approached him differently.
There was no cause for excessive alarm from the caller ... There was no indication of imminent danger.
Unlawful detention could be an issue, although I would be less likely to pursue that if the police officer isn't an ass.
There were two firearms involved in the initial encounter ... And the only person pointing one at somebody and threatening them at the same time was the responding officer.
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the dispatcher certainly did appear more professional and knowledgeable then the officer
the kid had to set the officer straight every step of the way
including when the officer told him to reload his firearm after he left
the kid said he could not do that because then he would be brandishing a firearm
They all appeared to be textbook perfect ... Including the dispatch of officers to the scene and how they approached the situation.
Right up to the point the responding officer got out of his vehicle, drew his weapon and went all "SWAT Team" on the guy.
It was also interesting when the dispatcher told the woman on the phone that more people were choosing to open carry as a result of Sandy Hook.
I don't see any of this working out with legal gun owners as long as owning a firearm makes you a villain in general perception.
It is going to get worse before it gets any better ... And the people who think they are helping someone are the people who are going to make it worse.
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tell it to Reagan or Kennedy or McKinley or anyone else who was shot while they were surrounded by well armed, well trained cadres of security forces.The presence of guns escalates the chances of gun violence.
The presence of guns also stops gun violence.
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.
And the bad guys will always have a gun, so why shouldn't the good guys?
I don't need a cop to protect me as long as I have a gun.
You are either lying or have failed to think out your post.
True. The obvious downside is you don't know how to use it.
No, I own a gun. But I'm too responsible to carry it around and make it available to any idiot who sees it. It's at home, unloaded and locked in a safe. I know responsibility.
There is no downside to carrying a weapon.
You are either lying or have failed to think out your post.
Hardly! It was an armed assault on the clerk at a gun shop. The favored example of gun lovers. The presence of guns escalates the chances of gun violence.There was a shooting at a gun shop here in Pennsylvania just last week.
And that proves me right, doesn't it?
That's precisely what I want to know. Does he have a history of violence? We're talking about Tampa Florida here. Not considered the Athens of the Fulf Coast. How could someone capable of such bad decision making be trusted as a police officer?You are calling him an insane cop now, after the fact. What proof do you have that he didn't have a stellar record as an officer?
Does he have a history of violence
apparently not according to neighbors
the police report he says he was hit in the face
this is why they have trials
Ex-cop arrested in fatal theater shooting 'nice guy,' neighbor says - CNN.com
You are either lying or have failed to think out your post.
True. The obvious downside is you don't know how to use it.
No, I own a gun. But I'm too responsible to carry it around and make it available to any idiot who sees it. It's at home, unloaded and locked in a safe. I know responsibility.
