The Flint Water Crisis: An insight into Republicanism.

[Jroc]

Again, by law, the City of Flint, opted to have an EM. They made that choice. Their problem, their choice, they issues. Simple as that.

Please provide a link to your outrageous assertion that the City Council or Mayor requested an EM or "opted" to have one! I have already debunked that in previous posts so go on, make my day, and post your source....

You can delay your embarrassment if you simply review my posts in this link to see the rebuttal...Save us both time if you did... just sayin'

What? So you really don't know? That's the law. That's how it works.

TREASURY - How a Financial Emergency Works

Directly from the Michigan governments website:

Step Nine: Within 7 days after confirmation of a financial emergency, the governing body of the local government must select one of the following:

Consent Agreement option.
Emergency Manager option.
Neutral Evaluation Process option.
Chapter 9 Bankruptcy option.

Except as otherwise provided in the Act, a local government may not utilize any of the foregoing options more than once. A local government that does not select one of the above options is required to proceed under the Neutral Evaluation Process option.
​

Now who is laughing moron?

Flint picked option 2. They did it. Welcome to reality stupid. How long will you be staying?

Oh, I WILL be around for a long time.... You still didn't produce a link or documentation showing that the local Flint government requested an EM. Now chew on this while I continue snickering:

Flint has been under emergency Management off and on since 2011.



Governor Snyder has changed EMs several times, apparently to negate the 18 month provision after which 2./3 of the local government can oust an EM



The Rachel Maddow show had a town meeting in Flint and nothing on that show indicated the Em was selected by the elected officials of Flint. I got a sense that they felt railroaded into having to accept an EM.





(4) Subject to section 9(6)(c) and (11), unless authorized by the governor, a local government shall not utilize 1 of the local options listed in subsection (1)(a) to (d) more than 1 time.



Nice try; but, like Paul Harvey says, here is the REST of the story: The Michigan Treasurer's ad hoc syllabus doesn't mention the following excerpt form the actual LAW. That being Act # 436 under Enrolled Senate Bill no. 865

Sec. 25. (1) A neutral evaluation process may be utilized as provided for in this act. The state treasurer may, in his or her own discretion, determine that the state monitor the neutral evaluation process initiated by a local government under this section and may identify 1 or more individuals who may attend and observe the neutral evaluation process. A local government shall initiate the neutral evaluation process by providing notice by certified mail of a request for neutral evaluation process to all interested parties.I f the local government does not provide notice under this subsection to all interested parties within 7 days after selecting the neutral evaluation process option, the treasurer may require the local government to go into receivership and proceed under section 9. ( not chapter 9 the bankruptcy option but Section 9(6)(c) of Act#436 = Emergency Management)
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2011-2012/publicact/pdf/2012-PA-0436.pdf

I have seen NO documentation showing the local government of Flint chose the EM option or any of the 4 options listed. Nor have I seen documentation outlining how the financial crisis was determined in the first place. If you have such evidence put up and I will acknowledge it. Until then I 'll keep laughing.

I have seen Snyder's correspondence in placing an EM over the all White city of Allen Park MI. It doesnt look like that city opted for an EM either. But they got one!

MLIVE...a local media outlet is a link I used in a previous post to shwo how Snyder and his gang lied and engaged in a cover up. Do you expect anyone with an ounce of objectivity to believe what is posted on a State of Michigan Department website?

Don't make me laugh any more than I already have....

Flint is bankrupt.... Detroit was bankrupt. Now they are coming back. Thanks to Snyder, the EFM and corporate investors. Certainly not any leftist nutjobs and crooked liberals

At what expense? So cheap you give us lead poison?

Oh, and now that he gave all the corporate tax breaks he says we're broke and has to raise our taxes.

One more thing. If corporations are so good at solving all of our problems why did Rick Snyder run to the federal government 4 100 billion dollars and not run to corporations to solve the problem in Flint?

Hey moron do you know whats gong on in Detroit now? Have you heard of Dan Gilbert? Mike llitch? Probably not because you're a dumb fuck

 

[Jroc]

Who ran the show? Snyder appointees. Look at all the Snyder appointees he's firing. Their heads will roll not Snyder's but make no mistake Republicans are responsible for this.

This is why you don't appoint Republicans to do environmental work. They're too anti science and willing to risk it.

No you will not blame the citizens of flint.

LOL

The people at the treatment plant were Republicans and didn't know how to treat the water..............LOL

They have no responsibility.............lol

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

 

[sealybobo]

Please provide a link to your outrageous assertion that the City Council or Mayor requested an EM or "opted" to have one! I have already debunked that in previous posts so go on, make my day, and post your source....

You can delay your embarrassment if you simply review my posts in this link to see the rebuttal...Save us both time if you did... just sayin'

What? So you really don't know? That's the law. That's how it works.

TREASURY - How a Financial Emergency Works

Directly from the Michigan governments website:

Step Nine: Within 7 days after confirmation of a financial emergency, the governing body of the local government must select one of the following:

Consent Agreement option.
Emergency Manager option.
Neutral Evaluation Process option.
Chapter 9 Bankruptcy option.

Except as otherwise provided in the Act, a local government may not utilize any of the foregoing options more than once. A local government that does not select one of the above options is required to proceed under the Neutral Evaluation Process option.
​

Now who is laughing moron?

Flint picked option 2. They did it. Welcome to reality stupid. How long will you be staying?

Oh, I WILL be around for a long time.... You still didn't produce a link or documentation showing that the local Flint government requested an EM. Now chew on this while I continue snickering:

Flint has been under emergency Management off and on since 2011.



Governor Snyder has changed EMs several times, apparently to negate the 18 month provision after which 2./3 of the local government can oust an EM



The Rachel Maddow show had a town meeting in Flint and nothing on that show indicated the Em was selected by the elected officials of Flint. I got a sense that they felt railroaded into having to accept an EM.





(4) Subject to section 9(6)(c) and (11), unless authorized by the governor, a local government shall not utilize 1 of the local options listed in subsection (1)(a) to (d) more than 1 time.



Nice try; but, like Paul Harvey says, here is the REST of the story: The Michigan Treasurer's ad hoc syllabus doesn't mention the following excerpt form the actual LAW. That being Act # 436 under Enrolled Senate Bill no. 865

Sec. 25. (1) A neutral evaluation process may be utilized as provided for in this act. The state treasurer may, in his or her own discretion, determine that the state monitor the neutral evaluation process initiated by a local government under this section and may identify 1 or more individuals who may attend and observe the neutral evaluation process. A local government shall initiate the neutral evaluation process by providing notice by certified mail of a request for neutral evaluation process to all interested parties.I f the local government does not provide notice under this subsection to all interested parties within 7 days after selecting the neutral evaluation process option, the treasurer may require the local government to go into receivership and proceed under section 9. ( not chapter 9 the bankruptcy option but Section 9(6)(c) of Act#436 = Emergency Management)
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2011-2012/publicact/pdf/2012-PA-0436.pdf

I have seen NO documentation showing the local government of Flint chose the EM option or any of the 4 options listed. Nor have I seen documentation outlining how the financial crisis was determined in the first place. If you have such evidence put up and I will acknowledge it. Until then I 'll keep laughing.

I have seen Snyder's correspondence in placing an EM over the all White city of Allen Park MI. It doesnt look like that city opted for an EM either. But they got one!

MLIVE...a local media outlet is a link I used in a previous post to shwo how Snyder and his gang lied and engaged in a cover up. Do you expect anyone with an ounce of objectivity to believe what is posted on a State of Michigan Department website?

Don't make me laugh any more than I already have....

Flint is bankrupt.... Detroit was bankrupt. Now they are coming back. Thanks to Snyder, the EFM and corporate investors. Certainly not any leftist nutjobs and crooked liberals

At what expense? So cheap you give us lead poison?

Oh, and now that he gave all the corporate tax breaks he says we're broke and has to raise our taxes.

One more thing. If corporations are so good at solving all of our problems why did Rick Snyder run to the federal government 4 100 billion dollars and not run to corporations to solve the problem in Flint?

hey diiot

LOL

The people at the treatment plant were Republicans and didn't know how to treat the water..............LOL

They have no responsibility.............lol

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

Grew up 6 & evergreen. Live on a lake now.

Unions made this state. Spineless ignorant greedy voters like you sent our good paying jobs to china and mexico

Remember Ford had record profits in 1999. My dad got record profit sharing. My kind afford you the luxury to be stupid

An old Jewish neighborhood back in the day now look at it. You people sent our jobs overseas why do you support unlimited immigration into this country?

Im not going to defend detroiters. Although I could a part of me agrees with guys like carson or Cosby that blacks should do a lot better. Take some pride. It's so dangerous in Detroit, no business will go near it.

Reagan started the illegal immigrants process and it picked up steam under Gw bush. Flood the market with workers while sending jobs overseas.

Remember jobs Americans won't do? Yea that was you in 2007

 

[sealybobo]

Please provide a link to your outrageous assertion that the City Council or Mayor requested an EM or "opted" to have one! I have already debunked that in previous posts so go on, make my day, and post your source....

You can delay your embarrassment if you simply review my posts in this link to see the rebuttal...Save us both time if you did... just sayin'

What? So you really don't know? That's the law. That's how it works.

TREASURY - How a Financial Emergency Works

Directly from the Michigan governments website:

Step Nine: Within 7 days after confirmation of a financial emergency, the governing body of the local government must select one of the following:

Consent Agreement option.
Emergency Manager option.
Neutral Evaluation Process option.
Chapter 9 Bankruptcy option.

Except as otherwise provided in the Act, a local government may not utilize any of the foregoing options more than once. A local government that does not select one of the above options is required to proceed under the Neutral Evaluation Process option.
​

Now who is laughing moron?

Flint picked option 2. They did it. Welcome to reality stupid. How long will you be staying?

Oh, I WILL be around for a long time.... You still didn't produce a link or documentation showing that the local Flint government requested an EM. Now chew on this while I continue snickering:

Flint has been under emergency Management off and on since 2011.



Governor Snyder has changed EMs several times, apparently to negate the 18 month provision after which 2./3 of the local government can oust an EM



The Rachel Maddow show had a town meeting in Flint and nothing on that show indicated the Em was selected by the elected officials of Flint. I got a sense that they felt railroaded into having to accept an EM.





(4) Subject to section 9(6)(c) and (11), unless authorized by the governor, a local government shall not utilize 1 of the local options listed in subsection (1)(a) to (d) more than 1 time.



Nice try; but, like Paul Harvey says, here is the REST of the story: The Michigan Treasurer's ad hoc syllabus doesn't mention the following excerpt form the actual LAW. That being Act # 436 under Enrolled Senate Bill no. 865

Sec. 25. (1) A neutral evaluation process may be utilized as provided for in this act. The state treasurer may, in his or her own discretion, determine that the state monitor the neutral evaluation process initiated by a local government under this section and may identify 1 or more individuals who may attend and observe the neutral evaluation process. A local government shall initiate the neutral evaluation process by providing notice by certified mail of a request for neutral evaluation process to all interested parties.I f the local government does not provide notice under this subsection to all interested parties within 7 days after selecting the neutral evaluation process option, the treasurer may require the local government to go into receivership and proceed under section 9. ( not chapter 9 the bankruptcy option but Section 9(6)(c) of Act#436 = Emergency Management)
https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2011-2012/publicact/pdf/2012-PA-0436.pdf

I have seen NO documentation showing the local government of Flint chose the EM option or any of the 4 options listed. Nor have I seen documentation outlining how the financial crisis was determined in the first place. If you have such evidence put up and I will acknowledge it. Until then I 'll keep laughing.

I have seen Snyder's correspondence in placing an EM over the all White city of Allen Park MI. It doesnt look like that city opted for an EM either. But they got one!

MLIVE...a local media outlet is a link I used in a previous post to shwo how Snyder and his gang lied and engaged in a cover up. Do you expect anyone with an ounce of objectivity to believe what is posted on a State of Michigan Department website?

Don't make me laugh any more than I already have....

Flint is bankrupt.... Detroit was bankrupt. Now they are coming back. Thanks to Snyder, the EFM and corporate investors. Certainly not any leftist nutjobs and crooked liberals

At what expense? So cheap you give us lead poison?

Oh, and now that he gave all the corporate tax breaks he says we're broke and has to raise our taxes.

One more thing. If corporations are so good at solving all of our problems why did Rick Snyder run to the federal government 4 100 billion dollars and not run to corporations to solve the problem in Flint?

Hey moron do you know whats gong on in Detroit now? Have you heard of Dan Gilbert? Mike llitch? Probably not because you're a dumb fuck

I love it! Love the mayor too. Thanks obama

 

[Jroc]

Who ran the show? Snyder appointees. Look at all the Snyder appointees he's firing. Their heads will roll not Snyder's but make no mistake Republicans are responsible for this.

This is why you don't appoint Republicans to do environmental work. They're too anti science and willing to risk it.

No you will not blame the citizens of flint.

LOL

The people at the treatment plant were Republicans and didn't know how to treat the water..............LOL

They have no responsibility.............lol

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Oh i could blend in fine white boy

 

[tinydancer]

LOL

The people at the treatment plant were Republicans and didn't know how to treat the water..............LOL

They have no responsibility.............lol

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Oh i could blend in fine white boy

Nice fucking hair. OMG Im losing it.

 

[sealybobo]

LOL

The people at the treatment plant were Republicans and didn't know how to treat the water..............LOL

They have no responsibility.............lol

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

 

[Jroc]

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm Jewish that's a Jew fro...LOL ...My highschool was 75% black. I know Emerson, wasn't that where they sent all the bad kids?..LOL ..Dan Gilbert is buying lots of buildings for rehab He's investing 100s of millions in Detroit

 

[Jroc]

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Oh i could blend in fine white boy

Nice fucking hair. OMG Im losing it.

When you got it, you can sport the fro or the shaved head...it's all good...Jew power baby

 

[tinydancer]

The Flint River had been tapped on previous occasions BEFORE Snyder was governor and before EM was sent to usurp power from the city government but no crisis materialized...WHY NOT? Apparently the democrats treated the water for corrosion before THEY tapped the Flint River temporarily. One more thang...Can I get a witness?

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm going to lay it on the line. I was white working a lot of blues bands and the Mayor said straight out I wasn't welcome. My bands were not welcome. ****** city. Thats all that dude wanted.

Now I went south and not a problem for me but I didnt ever understand that mayor ever. Got my bands to memphis but I really never understood this crazy ass asshole.

Cripes even Barry bailed on him. When Motown leaves Motown you know you have a problem.

 

[Jroc]

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm going to lay it on the line. I was white working a lot of blues bands and the Mayor said straight out I wasn't welcome. My bands were not welcome. ****** city. Thats all that dude wanted.

Now I went south and not a problem for me but I didnt ever understand that mayor ever. Got my bands to memphis but I really never understood this crazy ass asshole.

Cripes even Barry bailed on him. When Motown leaves Motown you know you have a problem.

Coleman Young?
.

 

[tinydancer]

I want to put it out there. I love Michigan. Especially the UP. Oh heavens. You have not lived till you go there.

The people are fabulous take away the union shit they are good folks and I've known so many over so many years. They get slammed a lot and I don't think its fair. Good solid people.

Love them to death.

 

[Katzndogz]

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm going to lay it on the line. I was white working a lot of blues bands and the Mayor said straight out I wasn't welcome. My bands were not welcome. ****** city. Thats all that dude wanted.

Now I went south and not a problem for me but I didnt ever understand that mayor ever. Got my bands to memphis but I really never understood this crazy ass asshole.

Cripes even Barry bailed on him. When Motown leaves Motown you know you have a problem.

Coleman Young?
.

He's the one that started the Detroit rot.

 

[sealybobo]

Im going to have to leave this thread. If they dare suggest liberals and Democrats did this to flint, then you are talking to people so stupid and brainwashed.

This reminds me of how bush lied us into Iraq and they say Democrats voted for it. We remember being conned into that.

So I can't take a non Michigander stupid fucking right wingers blaming poor people in flint when the Republicans completely own this problem. Snyder could even be sued criminally if he knew and did nothing.

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm going to lay it on the line. I was white working a lot of blues bands and the Mayor said straight out I wasn't welcome. My bands were not welcome. ****** city. Thats all that dude wanted.

Now I went south and not a problem for me but I didnt ever understand that mayor ever. Got my bands to memphis but I really never understood this crazy ass asshole.

Cripes even Barry bailed on him. When Motown leaves Motown you know you have a problem.

Who duggan? Tell me more. What did he say to you and why? You're leaving a lot out

 

[tinydancer]

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm going to lay it on the line. I was white working a lot of blues bands and the Mayor said straight out I wasn't welcome. My bands were not welcome. ****** city. Thats all that dude wanted.

Now I went south and not a problem for me but I didnt ever understand that mayor ever. Got my bands to memphis but I really never understood this crazy ass asshole.

Cripes even Barry bailed on him. When Motown leaves Motown you know you have a problem.

Coleman Young?
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Hahaha no Motown left. Coleman Young was worse than " make it a chocolate city" New Orleans.

 

[tinydancer]

I'm in Michigan and a Detroiter. Where you from boy? The reason why Michigan was in a tail spin before the Republicans took over is partly because of too many idiots like you in this state

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm going to lay it on the line. I was white working a lot of blues bands and the Mayor said straight out I wasn't welcome. My bands were not welcome. ****** city. Thats all that dude wanted.

Now I went south and not a problem for me but I didnt ever understand that mayor ever. Got my bands to memphis but I really never understood this crazy ass asshole.

Cripes even Barry bailed on him. When Motown leaves Motown you know you have a problem.

Who duggan? Tell me more. What did he say to you and why? You're leaving a lot out

What do you want to know?

I did major bands back then. Ask away.

 

[sealybobo]

I want to put it out there. I love Michigan. Especially the UP. Oh heavens. You have not lived till you go there.

The people are fabulous take away the union shit they are good folks and I've known so many over so many years. They get slammed a lot and I don't think its fair. Good solid people.

Love them to death.

I love Michigan. I live on a lake in metro Detroit, have family hunting property in the boyne area and a condo in port austin looking at lake Huron.

Almost everything we have and are is thanks to Ford. My dad worked for Ford, my mom worked at Henry Ford hospital and my brothers first job after my parents put him through Henry Ford community college was at Ford.

Ok I made the part up about the community college. He went to msu.

And I sold to all the tier 1234&5 suppliers that want away when we decided to go to mexico

 

[JQPublic1]

Nothing like finding some arrogant idiot, that has been BSing this entire thread, and didn't even know the law.... didn't even know the laws he was talking about. The left-wing is the most ignorant and arrogant people on the face of the planet.

Well, I am not too sure of that but getting back to that Flit request for an EM... In the immortal words Ronnie Ray Gun"; "Welll..... I don't knowwwww!"
Check this out:

Here is even more evidence to support my contentions that Flint didn't ask for an EM. You must understand that Flint's takeover began in 2011, two years before the document you referenced was in effect. Act. no. 436 was promulgated in 2012 but it was effective in 2013. So those options you allude to didn't exist back then.

IN 2011:

FLINT, Michigan — A state review panel is recommending that an emergency financial manager take over the city of Flint.

The recommendation accompanies the review team's report to Gov. Rick Snyder, which says a "local government financial emergency" exists in the city, and "no satisfactory plan exists to resolve the emergency."


And the Coup de grace:


The review team declined to pursue the option of a "consent agreement" with local elected leaders to resolve the financial problems because "it would not afford an efficacious remedy to the financial emergency," according to the team's 10-page report.

State review panel recommends emergency financial manager be appointed in Flint


2011:

FLINT, Michigan — The chairman of the state Democratic Party is saying the election day announcement of Flint's financial emergency is politically motivated.


Mark Brewer, chairman of the state Democrats, issued a statement following the announcement today that Gov. Rick Snyder has concurred with a state panel's findings that a financial emergency exists in Flint.

The panel also recommended Snyder appoint an emergency financial manager to take over the city.

Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer calls financial emergency announcement 'despicable'

Oh yeah, one more thing: BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[sealybobo]

We know you probably mean metro Detroit. Lots of whites claim they're from Detroit but they are not.

Or you're one of the hipsters who've moved back down recently.

You certainly didn't live in my neighborhood, unless you are black BC I was the only white in my neighborhood

Southwest Detroit boy Chadsey highschool

My middle school was in the top ten worst schools in Detroit when we left. My middle school and 9 highschool. Emerson middle school

Are you black? What percent black was your school.

The big 3 hired a lot of blacks from Detroit in the 70s 80's 90's & today. Dan Gilbert has fixed up 1 small part of Detroit. 95% still needs jobs. It's a big place.

I'm going to lay it on the line. I was white working a lot of blues bands and the Mayor said straight out I wasn't welcome. My bands were not welcome. ****** city. Thats all that dude wanted.

Now I went south and not a problem for me but I didnt ever understand that mayor ever. Got my bands to memphis but I really never understood this crazy ass asshole.

Cripes even Barry bailed on him. When Motown leaves Motown you know you have a problem.

Who duggan? Tell me more. What did he say to you and why? You're leaving a lot out

What do you want to know?

I did major bands back then. Ask away.

What mayor told you to beat it? And why?

 

[auditor0007]

There is an eerie silence on these boards about the ongoing water scandal in Flint Michigan with good reason. This crisis uncovers a republican tendency to do things that end up being detrimental to their constituents and everyone living near them.

The Snyder administration sparked the chain of events that led to the crisis back in April, 2014 amid a financial downturn. To save money, the decision to switch Flint's water source from Lake Huron to the Flint River was made on the ill fated advise of a state sanctioned emergency manager to Flint.

Noteworthy is the revelation that the Flint River had long had a reputation for being nasty when the state made the switch.. But the burgeoning indifference doesn't stop there. A 2011 study indicated that Flint River water had to be treated with anti- corrosion agents before it could be fit for human consumption. That didn't happen. Therein lies the culpability...the republicans dropped the ball and, either through abject stupidity or indifference, they failed those who put their trust ini them.

There is more. The callousness of these Michigan republicans underlines the inclination of the GOP to put material interests above human interests. Michael Pitt, a member of the law team representing the victims, puts it this way:


"He further lambasted state officials who, he alleged, learned of elevated lead levels in children's blood in 2014 and did nothing."


"They were staring at a public health emergency, and they sat on it for over 10 months," he said, further criticizing leaders who assured residents the water was safe when they knew it wasn't true"..

If what Pitt said is true, there is an element of criminality here.

Although these developments are shocking, I am not surprised by the cold insensitiveness of the Michigan republicans towards the people of Flint. Republicans have been against everything that makes America a better place to live for all classes of Americans. Some of the things republicans have tried to undermine is social security, MEDICARE and, ironically, the EPA. If they had their way there would be NO safety nets and the Great Depression might never have ended. Child labor would still be an ongoing phenomenon.

Given the historical agenda of republicanism...it should be clear that their actions speak louder than their words. If Trump wins, I fear the Flint water crisis gives us a glimpse of things to come. With a GOP congress, and GOP USSC to compliment Trumps in the White House..... be afraid...for nothing you breathe, drink or eat will be safe.

In the past it wasn't so much a problem with Republicans as it has been with the far right wing conservatives who overly rely on the free market and believe that any government is bad for society. This type of Republicanism did not exist under Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and even Reagan to a certain extent. This really has developed slowly since Reagan as the far right conservatives have completely taken over the party.