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I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...
I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...


What choice do you believe you would be losing?
that doesnt answer my question
My stance on abortion is irrelevant to efficiency of our healthcare system.
I require clarity to better address your stance. What choice do you believe you would lose under a single payer system?

The ability to make intelligent choices....dumbass.

Such as? Every doctor or hospital in the country would be available to you. I see that as far more choice than you have now.

Damn, you're in a fricken dream world also.
 
You stupid partisan sheep are always going on about healthcare cost.
Guess what asshole.. govt getting involved in healthcare caused the cost to shoot up. Look up when the cost of healthcare started to rise beyond normal inflation and when govt got greedy with our healthcare industry.
Partisan sheep never fucking think. They react.
Grow up faggots. You have already fucked this country up. Its time to give it a break.

Show us.
Global Health
Our first govt healthcare was started in the early 50s for dependents of military personnel. Medicare in 65.
Remember, i said consider costs after inflation so include the hyperinflation in the 30s and 40s before you apologize for being a govt stooge.

That tells me nothing.
Because you dont want to see anything that goes against your closed, statist mind.
It tells any rational person all they need to know.

No. You didn't show how it made healthcare more expensive.
 
Under federal law, a hospital must treat anyone seeking treatment regardless of their ability to pay.
So, government is forcing people to work for free, right?

So, then you are paying either in higher rates or through medicaid.
So, each time, it is GOVERNMENT fucking everyone over, right?
LOL.....
What sort of society do imagine we should have? Healthcare to only those with means?
More libertarian dystopian nonsense.
healthcare starts at home and that is a part of daily life

What does that even mean. LOL


didnt think you would understand,,,

I don't understand because the subject is the us healthcare system. Your statement has nothing to do woth that.
 
that doesnt answer my question
My stance on abortion is irrelevant to efficiency of our healthcare system.
I require clarity to better address your stance. What choice do you believe you would lose under a single payer system?

The ability to make intelligent choices....dumbass.

Such as? Every doctor or hospital in the country would be available to you. I see that as far more choice than you have now.


again thats my personal business not yours

Look, dope. You're on a public forum.
You're bashing single payer healthcare by saying it restricts your choice but it's personal information when asked what choices you're referring to?

WTF?


my choice to choose for myself how when and where I get healthcare,,,
 
You stupid partisan sheep are always going on about healthcare cost.
Guess what asshole.. govt getting involved in healthcare caused the cost to shoot up. Look up when the cost of healthcare started to rise beyond normal inflation and when govt got greedy with our healthcare industry.
Partisan sheep never fucking think. They react.
Grow up faggots. You have already fucked this country up. Its time to give it a break.

Show us.
Global Health
Our first govt healthcare was started in the early 50s for dependents of military personnel. Medicare in 65.
Remember, i said consider costs after inflation so include the hyperinflation in the 30s and 40s before you apologize for being a govt stooge.

That tells me nothing.
Because you dont want to see anything that goes against your closed, statist mind.
It tells any rational person all they need to know.

No. You didn't show how it made . I said the rise in cost and govt intervention happened at the same time.
 
You stupid partisan sheep are always going on about healthcare cost.
Guess what asshole.. govt getting involved in healthcare caused the cost to shoot up. Look up when the cost of healthcare started to rise beyond normal inflation and when govt got greedy with our healthcare industry.
Partisan sheep never fucking think. They react.
Grow up faggots. You have already fucked this country up. Its time to give it a break.

Show us.
Global Health
Our first govt healthcare was started in the early 50s for dependents of military personnel. Medicare in 65.
Remember, i said consider costs after inflation so include the hyperinflation in the 30s and 40s before you apologize for being a govt stooge.

That tells me nothing.
Because you dont want to see anything that goes against your closed, statist mind.
It tells any rational person all they need to know.

No. You didn't show how it made healthcare more expensive.


thats self explanatory,,,
 
Global Health
Our first govt healthcare was started in the early 50s for dependents of military personnel. Medicare in 65.
Remember, i said consider costs after inflation so include the hyperinflation in the 30s and 40s before you apologize for being a govt stooge.

That tells me nothing.
Because you dont want to see anything that goes against your closed, statist mind.
It tells any rational person all they need to know.

No. You didn't show how it made healthcare more expensive.


thats self explanatory,,,
Govt is his religion. He cant accept anything bad about it.
 
How is this relevant?
Almost ALL PEOPLE would rather suffer the consequences of freedom than exchange them for the illusion of comfort and security offered by a prison.

So, whether you consciously contemplate freedom in all of your life decisions, you do factor it in daily in every motherfucking one of those decisions.

.

Again. What does this have to do with healthcare? Getting well is a prison? LOL
 
I don't understand because the subject is the us healthcare system. Your statement has nothing to do woth that
Dude, if we all thought we could actually get shit for free, don't you think we would be ALL IN FAVOR? Don't you think we have contemplated the consequences of handing over our liberty in exchange for....something...with no guarantees?

You are buying into the LIE!!!

SOMEBODY will pay. There is no "free."

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So, government is forcing people to work for free, right?

So, each time, it is GOVERNMENT fucking everyone over, right?
LOL.....
What sort of society do imagine we should have? Healthcare to only those with means?
More libertarian dystopian nonsense.
healthcare starts at home and that is a part of daily life

What does that even mean. LOL


didnt think you would understand,,,

I don't understand because the subject is the us healthcare system. Your statement has nothing to do woth that.


healthcare is up to the person and how they care for themselves

insurance is when that fails in a catastrophic nature and not for doctor visits
 
Some people think good health can be promoted by government, others have been brainwashed by the special interests and the pols who benefit from their dollars.

We know good healthcate can be promoted by govt. There's successful models all around the world.

Do those “models” include 80-100 million illegal and barely legal thirdworlders? Does more than half their nation pay zero in income taxes? Isn’t their minimum tax rate 30-40%?
Wake up bud...you simply can not have socialism and a wide open border between us and disgusting thirdworlders.

None of that is relevant in any way.
This country already pays for all that, dope.

You make no sense bud...think once...It’s all relevant. There is no more free shit available for you beggars. The wetbacks have fucked you lowlife degenerates over.

Idiot-gram ^^^; Lunatic Fringe Post variety.
 
First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA goals, and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all.

The only argument the Republican Party can offer is to claim government's intercession on the repeal of the ACA is it is Socialism. A claim which is absurd and an appeal to emotions.

Our government was founded by We the people to, "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Common sense suggests the current iteration of Republicans (RINO's) have move so far to the dark side, that the meaning of the Preamble has been lost.

What do I mean by the Dark Side?

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed. No one will be able to equate any of the visions highlighted in the Preamble which is part of the current ideology under Trump and the miss-named Freedom Caucus.
/----/ "the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all."
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Hmm.......
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...s-warn-drug-companies-oversight-investigation
/----/ democRATs war on the companies who make life-saving drugs continues...

In their letters, Reps. Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows — leaders of the hardline conservative House Freedom Caucus — imply that Cummings may be attempting to collect the information in order to bring down the industry’s stock prices.

They write that Cummings is seeking sensitive information “that would likely harm the competitiveness of your company if disclosed publicly.” They then accuse Cummings of “releasing cherry-picked excerpts from a highly sensitive closed-door interview” conducted in an investigation into White House security clearances. “This is not the first time he has released sensitive information unilaterally,” says the letter. The authors say they “feel obliged to alert” the drug companies of Cummings’ actions.

Derp....

The point is to understand why the cost of insulin has risen 600%.
 
WTF do you think single payer is? LOL
What if there is a new procedure that might work to fix a disease, but the government panel thinks it's too experimental and costly to approve.

What recourse does one have to pursue that potential cure?

(see the UK case where parents wanted to pay for treatment outside the single-payer system and were told to accept their child's pending death and were DENIED)

Bu-bye freedom.

.
 
Some people think good health can be promoted by government, others have been brainwashed by the special interests and the pols who benefit from their dollars.

We know good healthcate can be promoted by govt. There's successful models all around the world.

Do those “models” include 80-100 million illegal and barely legal thirdworlders? Does more than half their nation pay zero in income taxes? Isn’t their minimum tax rate 30-40%?
Wake up bud...you simply can not have socialism and a wide open border between us and disgusting thirdworlders.

None of that is relevant in any way.
This country already pays for all that, dope.

You make no sense bud...think once...It’s all relevant. There is no more free shit available for you beggars. The wetbacks have fucked you lowlife degenerates over.

What "free shit" do you believe " wetbacks " receive?

Haha...this shit again?
https://nypost.com/2018/03/10/cutting-welfare-to-illegal-aliens-would-pay-for-trumps-wall/
 
First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA goals, and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all.

The only argument the Republican Party can offer is to claim government's intercession on the repeal of the ACA is it is Socialism. A claim which is absurd and an appeal to emotions.

Our government was founded by We the people to, "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Common sense suggests the current iteration of Republicans (RINO's) have move so far to the dark side, that the meaning of the Preamble has been lost.

What do I mean by the Dark Side?

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed. No one will be able to equate any of the visions highlighted in the Preamble which is part of the current ideology under Trump and the miss-named Freedom Caucus.
Partisans post the dumbest shit.
 

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