The Future

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health.

and neither of them realize its not their job to be involved in healthcare

so fuck off you commie pricks,,,both of you

It's the government's job to do what ever most of the country wants, so fuck off yourself, dumb ass.

Pass an amendment!

Republicans have had 8 whole years to do something, yet they sat on their fat asses. This is why America is pissed at them.

The only thing they need to do is get govt out of healthcare completely.
But we know they wont. They either wont do shit or it will be just as pathetic as the ACA

Precisely.

 

[TNHarley]

Actually, it is the job of government to regulate the healthcare industry.

Which government? Not the FedGov.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."
James Madison, Federalist Paper 45

"The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."
James Madison, Federalist Paper 45

"In the first place it is to be remembered that the general government is not to be charged with the whole power of making and administering laws. Its jurisdiction is limited to certain enumerated objects, which concern all the members of the republic, but which are not to be attained by the separate provisions of any."
James Madison, Federalist Paper 51

oh bullshit. The fed govts been regulating HC for nearly 100 years. LOL Why do you think your employer provides insurance? Catch a fucking clue

Employers started providing benefits to get good people to work for them. The Federal Government had absolutely nothing to do with it.

That is true. Back when that happened, hospitals had their own insirance plans.
The free market is a awesome and the govt sucks.

 

[blackhawk]

 

[bendog]

Claudette and Booty subscribe to "don't socialize my medicare!"

 

[Hutch Starskey]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA goals, and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all.

The only argument the Republican Party can offer is to claim government's intercession on the repeal of the ACA is it is Socialism. A claim which is absurd and an appeal to emotions.

Our government was founded by We the people to, "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Common sense suggests the current iteration of Republicans (RINO's) have move so far to the dark side, that the meaning of the Preamble has been lost.

What do I mean by the Dark Side?

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed. No one will be able to equate any of the visions highlighted in the Preamble which is part of the current ideology under Trump and the miss-named Freedom Caucus.

/----/ "the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all."
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Hmm.......
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...s-warn-drug-companies-oversight-investigation

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

How is this relevant?

Almost ALL PEOPLE would rather suffer the consequences of freedom than exchange them for the illusion of comfort and security offered by a prison.

So, whether you consciously contemplate freedom in all of your life decisions, you do factor it in daily in every motherfucking one of those decisions.

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[bendog]

Actually, it is the job of government to regulate the healthcare industry.

Which government? Not the FedGov.

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."
James Madison, Federalist Paper 45

"The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."
James Madison, Federalist Paper 45

"In the first place it is to be remembered that the general government is not to be charged with the whole power of making and administering laws. Its jurisdiction is limited to certain enumerated objects, which concern all the members of the republic, but which are not to be attained by the separate provisions of any."
James Madison, Federalist Paper 51

oh bullshit. The fed govts been regulating HC for nearly 100 years. LOL Why do you think your employer provides insurance? Catch a fucking clue

Employers started providing benefits to get good people to work for them. The Federal Government had absolutely nothing to do with it.

That is true. Back when that happened, hospitals had their own insirance plans.
The free market is a awesome and the govt sucks.

LOL. Take away the tax break and your HC will go poof

 

[TNHarley]

Claudette and Booty subscribe to "don't socialize my medicare!"

You are such a dumbfuck.
Those 2 are always talking about a small fed gov. But that post will score points with your fellow bedwetters!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Claudette and Booty subscribe to "don't socialize my medicare!"

What does that mean?

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[Hutch Starskey]

Under federal law, a hospital must treat anyone seeking treatment regardless of their ability to pay.

So, government is forcing people to work for free, right?

So, then you are paying either in higher rates or through medicaid.

So, each time, it is GOVERNMENT fucking everyone over, right?

LOL.....
What sort of society do imagine we should have? Healthcare to only those with means?
More libertarian dystopian nonsense.

healthcare starts at home and that is a part of daily life

What does that even mean. LOL

 

[Claudette]

Claudette and Booty subscribe to "don't socialize my medicare!"

There is nothing socialized about Medicare.

Every working person pays into Medicare their entire working life. All they do is collect it when the time comes.

You really are a fool.

 

[Cellblock2429]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA goals, and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all.

The only argument the Republican Party can offer is to claim government's intercession on the repeal of the ACA is it is Socialism. A claim which is absurd and an appeal to emotions.

Our government was founded by We the people to, "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Common sense suggests the current iteration of Republicans (RINO's) have move so far to the dark side, that the meaning of the Preamble has been lost.

What do I mean by the Dark Side?

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed. No one will be able to equate any of the visions highlighted in the Preamble which is part of the current ideology under Trump and the miss-named Freedom Caucus.

Not sure that the ACA is the best we can do but yea, these right wingers can't point to one thing the republican party has done for the average income American, themselves included. The power of decades of right wing radio and t.v. has done it's damage.

/----/ "these right wingers can't point to one thing the republican party has done for the average income American"
We "Right Wingers" believe in the constitutional role of the Federal Government and nothing more:
The Constitution’s articles, and the subsequent Amendments, specify the prerogatives of the Feds. They are listed in Article I, Sec. 8; Articles II-V; Amendments XIII-XVI, XIX-XX, XXIII-XXVI. These prerogatives belong to one of the following categories:

1) Defense, war prosecution, peace, foreign relations, foreign commerce, and interstate commerce;

2) The protection of citizens’ constitutional rights (e.g the right to vote) and ensuring that slavery remains illegal;

3) Establishing federal courts inferior to the SCOTUS;

4) Copyright protection;

5) Coining money;

6) Establishing post offices and post roads;

7) Establishing a national set of universal weights and measures;

8 ) Taxation needed to raise revenue to perform these essential functions.

Those are the only prerogatives of the Feds.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

LOL. Take away the tax break and your HC will go poof

As if the tax itself is a given and is the pre-earned property of the state.

Jeez. It's hopeless.


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[miketx]

You won't find Health Care in the Constitution just as you won't find Welfare there either.

Neither are in there because the Fed shouldn't have anything to do with either.

You're an ill informed and brainwashed pain in the ass. Go away and learn to think.

How to Stop Lying

 

[progressive hunter]

Under federal law, a hospital must treat anyone seeking treatment regardless of their ability to pay.

So, government is forcing people to work for free, right?

So, then you are paying either in higher rates or through medicaid.

So, each time, it is GOVERNMENT fucking everyone over, right?

LOL.....
What sort of society do imagine we should have? Healthcare to only those with means?
More libertarian dystopian nonsense.

healthcare starts at home and that is a part of daily life

What does that even mean. LOL

didnt think you would understand,,,

 

[bendog]

Teenvogue gets what the Trumpbots refuse. LOL

The Evolution of Health Insurance, From the 1900s to Today

 

[Cellblock2429]

First of all, good health precedes everything else. The current ideologies are in conflict, the Democratic Party supports the ACA goals, and the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all.

The only argument the Republican Party can offer is to claim government's intercession on the repeal of the ACA is it is Socialism. A claim which is absurd and an appeal to emotions.

Our government was founded by We the people to, "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Common sense suggests the current iteration of Republicans (RINO's) have move so far to the dark side, that the meaning of the Preamble has been lost.

What do I mean by the Dark Side?

The R. Party's use of Wedge Issues, their lust for power and greed. No one will be able to equate any of the visions highlighted in the Preamble which is part of the current ideology under Trump and the miss-named Freedom Caucus.

/----/ "the Republican Party seeks to put profit before good health for all."
View attachment 255264

Hmm.......
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...s-warn-drug-companies-oversight-investigation

/----/ democRATs war on the companies who make life-saving drugs continues...

In their letters, Reps. Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows — leaders of the hardline conservative House Freedom Caucus — imply that Cummings may be attempting to collect the information in order to bring down the industry’s stock prices.

They write that Cummings is seeking sensitive information “that would likely harm the competitiveness of your company if disclosed publicly.” They then accuse Cummings of “releasing cherry-picked excerpts from a highly sensitive closed-door interview” conducted in an investigation into White House security clearances. “This is not the first time he has released sensitive information unilaterally,” says the letter. The authors say they “feel obliged to alert” the drug companies of Cummings’ actions.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Claudette and Booty subscribe to "don't socialize my medicare!"

There is nothing socialized about Medicare.

Every working person pays into Medicare their entire working life. All they do is collect it when the time comes.

You really are a fool.

No, Claudette. You MUST pay into this fund. I demand, on pain of death or imprisonment, that you pay into this fund. You will get SOME of it back, but you MUST pay in.

You don't like this mandatory, at gunpoint plan and want it abolished?

Well, then FINE. If you use ANY of it, you are a hypocrite.

 

[Thinker101]

I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...

I have to ask,,,
are you pro choice???

if so why does that only count on abortion and not all other health issues...

What choice do you believe you would be losing?

that doesnt answer my question

My stance on abortion is irrelevant to efficiency of our healthcare system.
I require clarity to better address your stance. What choice do you believe you would lose under a single payer system?

The ability to make intelligent choices....dumbass.

You would be perfectly welcome not to use that single payer. If you call that an intelligent decision. " Gee, I don't want to use a system that will pay for all my care with the doctor of my choice & the facility of my choice" If you think that is smart, well I guess there is little hope for you.

Doctor of your choice and facility of your choice? Damn, you must be living in some dream world.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

What choice do you believe you would be losing?

that doesnt answer my question

My stance on abortion is irrelevant to efficiency of our healthcare system.
I require clarity to better address your stance. What choice do you believe you would lose under a single payer system?

The ability to make intelligent choices....dumbass.

Such as? Every doctor or hospital in the country would be available to you. I see that as far more choice than you have now.

again thats my personal business not yours

Look, dope. You're on a public forum.
You're bashing single payer healthcare by saying it restricts your choice but it's personal information when asked what choices you're referring to?

WTF?