Mac1958
Diamond Member
All I know for sure is that I've been watching both silly parties claiming the other is "imploding" for a MANY years now.
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Oh, fudge. Trump is toast for sure, again.THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:
I'm sorry Trump supporters, I know you don't want to hear this, but your guy in the white house and your party are in trouble on this one. Unlike the Mueller report, which was heavy on legal jargon and short on clarity, this impeachment inquiry report paints a very clear picture of a President abusing his power for political gain, then trying to cover it up. To make matters worse, the Presidents attempts to intimidate and attack witnesses was largely unsuccessful, as a number of key people (some of them appointed by Republicans) came forward with 1st and 2nd hand evidence of the President's guilt. Even recent FOX news polls paint a picture of a President and a political party in decline. Donald J Trump has been able to mount only a vocal defence, relying mostly on personal insults and bluster. This will leave Senate Republicans is a difficult situation: Vote to keep Trump in office, and run the risk of losing reelection (over 20 Senate Republicans are up for reelection in 2020) or vote to remove him and admit they backed the wrong guy.
For those of you who think this all hogwash, I would point out that virtually none of you have even read the Mueller report (redactions or not) or this impeachment report. If you'd done so, most of you would be singing a different tune. For those who would like to do so, I've posted the links to them below.
Given today's political climate, I doubt Senate Republicans will vote to remove President Trump from office, but Republicans would do well to knock off the childish name calling, stop bitching about the Biden's and take a look in your own backyard:
Your party is in trouble!
Fox News Poll: 49 percent favor impeaching Trump
Report | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
READ: The Mueller Report, With Redactions
/------/ " can ignore Congressional oversight"There is no GOP any more. They are The Party of Trumpybear, who believe their executives, when in office, have unitary power and can ignore Congressional oversight as just so much partisan bickering. When Democrats are in office however they sing a completely different tune, where the President can be subjected to years of minuet scrutiny and must comply with every subpoena Congress issues.
We can ignore Congressional witch hunts and fishing expeditions. Have the vote, if the democRATs impeach Trump, then it moves to the Senate where Republicans can subpoena democRATs including Shytface.
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The Demmies don't care about Christmas. They cancelled school prayers because they're atheists who don't want to trample on anyone's toes except the founders. So Christmas is not a big deal with the Democrats. They want blood and a good crucifixion! And right now, not later! A lotta legal corner drugs being passed around. You can barely read theirIt's time to ignore this garbage and get on with preparing for Christmas. Now's not the time to dwell on fabricated crimes trying to justify this bogus impeachment. Let the hard core radicals stew in their own juices. They're only making themselves look like bigger assholes than they already are. Merry Christmas
Four in the ambassador program died because Hillary had to paint her nails first, blindey, as she walked from her desk of power into Obama's Oval closet to boss him around./------/ " can ignore Congressional oversight"There is no GOP any more. They are The Party of Trumpybear, who believe their executives, when in office, have unitary power and can ignore Congressional oversight as just so much partisan bickering. When Democrats are in office however they sing a completely different tune, where the President can be subjected to years of minuet scrutiny and must comply with every subpoena Congress issues.
We can ignore Congressional witch hunts and fishing expeditions. Have the vote, if the democRATs impeach Trump, then it moves to the Senate where Republicans can subpoena democRATs including Shytface.
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Exactly the Trumpublican philosophy. Bet you think the years of Benghazi investigations were legitimate too, dontcha?
Four in the ambassador program died because Hillary had to paint her nails first, blindey, as she walked from her desk of power into Obama's Oval closet to boss him around./------/ " can ignore Congressional oversight"There is no GOP any more. They are The Party of Trumpybear, who believe their executives, when in office, have unitary power and can ignore Congressional oversight as just so much partisan bickering. When Democrats are in office however they sing a completely different tune, where the President can be subjected to years of minuet scrutiny and must comply with every subpoena Congress issues.
We can ignore Congressional witch hunts and fishing expeditions. Have the vote, if the democRATs impeach Trump, then it moves to the Senate where Republicans can subpoena democRATs including Shytface.
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Exactly the Trumpublican philosophy. Bet you think the years of Benghazi investigations were legitimate too, dontcha?![]()
Bullshit, Eric Holder was held in contempt for ignoring a Congressional subpoena to turn over documents in the Fast and Furious scandal.Furthermore, the Obama administration did not deny any Congressional subpoenas for information nor did they ever instructed White House officials to ignore Congressional subpoenas.
All I know for sure is that I've been watching both silly parties claiming the other is "imploding" for a MANY years now.
Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?There's the first lie right there.THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:
well you will never win with your die hard trampers, unless tramp tries to cheat again.
Russia if you listening, and investigate the Biden's before aid and a WH visit.
Bullshit, Eric Holder was held in contempt for ignoring a Congressional subpoena to turn over documents in the Fast and Furious scandal.Furthermore, the Obama administration did not deny any Congressional subpoenas for information nor did they ever instructed White House officials to ignore Congressional subpoenas.
Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?There's the first lie right there.THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:
well you will never win with your die hard trampers, unless tramp tries to cheat again.
Russia if you listening, and investigate the Biden's before aid and a WH visit.
lord you just scoop up the bullshit and shovel it down.
You said: "Furthermore, the Obama administration did not deny any Congressional subpoenas for information nor did they ever instructed White House officials to ignore Congressional subpoenas". I proved you wrong so now you want to go back and change the meaning of your comment? Trying to save face? LOLBullshit, Eric Holder was held in contempt for ignoring a Congressional subpoena to turn over documents in the Fast and Furious scandal.Furthermore, the Obama administration did not deny any Congressional subpoenas for information nor did they ever instructed White House officials to ignore Congressional subpoenas.
Since the discussion was about Benghazi, I like how you edited that, you had to ignore that to get to the one time in one investigation, that one official refused to turn a set of documents. Was he ordered by the President or did he do that on his own? No comparison to the baseless claim of blanket immunity by the Shakedown King.
They had everyone sign NDAs and wouldn't allow anyone to talk to the Survivors.Four in the ambassador program died because Hillary had to paint her nails first, blindey, as she walked from her desk of power into Obama's Oval closet to boss him around./------/ " can ignore Congressional oversight"There is no GOP any more. They are The Party of Trumpybear, who believe their executives, when in office, have unitary power and can ignore Congressional oversight as just so much partisan bickering. When Democrats are in office however they sing a completely different tune, where the President can be subjected to years of minuet scrutiny and must comply with every subpoena Congress issues.
We can ignore Congressional witch hunts and fishing expeditions. Have the vote, if the democRATs impeach Trump, then it moves to the Senate where Republicans can subpoena democRATs including Shytface.
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Exactly the Trumpublican philosophy. Bet you think the years of Benghazi investigations were legitimate too, dontcha?![]()
Contrary to known reality. Two died of smoke inhalation before the CIA Rescue team arrived and drove off the attackers and then evacuated every one but the Ambassador to the more secure CIA complex. They died because they went to the safe room where the exhaust fans had not been installed. The other two were killed by a mortar on an exposed roof top at the CIA complex several hours later.
Furthermore, the Obama administration did not deny any Congressional subpoenas for information nor did they ever instructed White House officials to ignore Congressional subpoenas.
If you look at The Battleground districts, the numbers are swinging The President's way. No, you are not an independent. You are just another troll posting misinformation to aid your Agenda.THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:
I'm sorry Trump supporters, I know you don't want to hear this, but your guy in the white house and your party are in trouble on this one. Unlike the Mueller report, which was heavy on legal jargon and short on clarity, this impeachment inquiry report paints a very clear picture of a President abusing his power for political gain, then trying to cover it up. To make matters worse, the Presidents attempts to intimidate and attack witnesses was largely unsuccessful, as a number of key people (some of them appointed by Republicans) came forward with 1st and 2nd hand evidence of the President's guilt. Even recent FOX news polls paint a picture of a President and a political party in decline. Donald J Trump has been able to mount only a vocal defence, relying mostly on personal insults and bluster. This will leave Senate Republicans is a difficult situation: Vote to keep Trump in office, and run the risk of losing reelection (over 20 Senate Republicans are up for reelection in 2020) or vote to remove him and admit they backed the wrong guy.
For those of you who think this all hogwash, I would point out that virtually none of you have even read the Mueller report (redactions or not) or this impeachment report. If you'd done so, most of you would be singing a different tune. For those who would like to do so, I've posted the links to them below.
Given today's political climate, I doubt Senate Republicans will vote to remove President Trump from office, but Republicans would do well to knock off the childish name calling, stop bitching about the Biden's and take a look in your own backyard:
Your party is in trouble!
Fox News Poll: 49 percent favor impeaching Trump
Report | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
READ: The Mueller Report, With Redactions
it's the "dirt" that has been presented since RUSSIA started but the left has been ignoring.Ukrainian to US prosecutors: Why don't you want our evidence on Democrats?There's the first lie right there.THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:
well you will never win with your die hard trampers, unless tramp tries to cheat again.
Russia if you listening, and investigate the Biden's before aid and a WH visit.
lord you just scoop up the bullshit and shovel it down.
Is that the dirt that Ghouliguy generated, in April?
THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:
I'm sorry Trump supporters, I know you don't want to hear this, but your guy in the white house and your party are in trouble on this one. Unlike the Mueller report, which was heavy on legal jargon and short on clarity, this impeachment inquiry report paints a very clear picture of a President abusing his power for political gain, then trying to cover it up. To make matters worse, the Presidents attempts to intimidate and attack witnesses was largely unsuccessful, as a number of key people (some of them appointed by Republicans) came forward with 1st and 2nd hand evidence of the President's guilt. Even recent FOX news polls paint a picture of a President and a political party in decline. Donald J Trump has been able to mount only a vocal defence, relying mostly on personal insults and bluster. This will leave Senate Republicans is a difficult situation: Vote to keep Trump in office, and run the risk of losing reelection (over 20 Senate Republicans are up for reelection in 2020) or vote to remove him and admit they backed the wrong guy.
For those of you who think this all hogwash, I would point out that virtually none of you have even read the Mueller report (redactions or not) or this impeachment report. If you'd done so, most of you would be singing a different tune. For those who would like to do so, I've posted the links to them below.
Given today's political climate, I doubt Senate Republicans will vote to remove President Trump from office, but Republicans would do well to knock off the childish name calling, stop bitching about the Biden's and take a look in your own backyard:
Your party is in trouble!
Fox News Poll: 49 percent favor impeaching Trump
Report | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
READ: The Mueller Report, With Redactions