The MAJOR difference between Medicare and Private Insurance...

You people do realize that you don't have to sigh up for Medicare when your time comes?

Hey, there ya go. Good cost saving measure! Republicans should absolutely NOT sign up for Medicare and should keep paying out of pocket for their healthcare. They can get one of those cheap, no coverage, low cap, high deductible plans that they favor so much.

Dumbass, when you become Medicare Eligible the ACA no longer accepts you
Guess you can just get it on your own then...or change the rules for the exchange.


"Hey, there ya go. Good cost saving measure! Republicans should absolutely NOT sign up for Medicare and should keep paying out of pocket for their healthcare. They can get one of those cheap, no coverage, low cap, high deductible plans that they favor so much."

LOL, you really are as stupid as you post.
 
Maybe I should make the distinction simpler.
States' insurance regulations require Private for profit health care insurance HAVE to make a profit to create "reserves" to pay future claims.
Medicare has no reserves for future claims.

By law 80 cents of every dollar in premium collected must go toward claims. So by law Private Companies have to do it all on a 20 cent "profit".
Called Medical Loss Ratio... and it has been a state regulation that premiums to be charged have to be justified IF 80% or more has been paid in claims.
This left the average health insurance company 20% to run the company on... wages, office facilities, supplies, etc. which has on averaged run about
8% before taxes. Health care industry on track for massive profits
Then after federal taxes are paid average net profit is 5.6% S&P 500 Profitability by quarter, Gross, Operating and Net Margin from 4 Q 2019
 
2018 Medicare Trustee Report...page 7
The estimated depletion date for the HI trust fund is 2026, 3 years earlier than in last year’s report.
As in past years, the Trustees have determined that the fund is not adequately financed over the next 10 years.
https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statis...eports/ReportsTrustFunds/Downloads/TR2018.pdf
So this means there are no reserves. It will be depleted in 6 years.

BUT private health insurance have to BY states' laws where they companies want to sell their health insurance MUST have RESERVES to pay future claims.

In the United States and most developed nations, regulators impose required statutory capital reserve ratios on insurance companies to conduct business. There may be large differences in the nature and definition of acceptable reserves, which can make it tricky for companies, and their shareholders, that operate in multiple jurisdictions.
Most reserve requirements are established at the state level. Standard levels include 8% to 12% of the insurer's total revenue, but the actual amount needed varies depending on the types of risk a company currently assumes.
What level of reserve ratios is typical for an insurance company to protect against large losses?

So those people mouthing "Medicare for All" means that 1,400 private health insurance companies that employ over 500,000 people and pay over $100 billion a year in taxes would be no longer in business.

Has that cost i.e. these insurance companies going out of business AND their reserves for future claims...are these claims going to be paid by Medicare for All?

As it is with most ideas spouted by people who are economically challenged they do not understand
the elementary aspects of arithmetic! If "Medicare for All" replaces private health insurance this would throw American industries including health insurance companies completely for a loss.

Finally... remember when Obama said.."46 million Americans are uninsured and over half of all Americans have pre-existing conditions"?

Both are lies.
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Conservatives have been predicting the demise of Medicare for decades
 
The Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage system is very popular and efficient, because it includes an excellent blend of public foundation and free market competition & innovation. It could be easily scaled up, with a few tweaks, for all.

The right wingers can't support it because they're told not to, and the left wingers are LYING to the voters, calling Single Payer "Medicare for All".

As usual, the wings are slowing down progress and causing harm.
.

What a shock, "Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage is popular and efficient" all we need to do is "tweak" it. WTF, fricken liberal wants to "tweak" it until it's not popular and efficient, but free for everyone...fricken idiot.
 
The Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage system is very popular and efficient, because it includes an excellent blend of public foundation and free market competition & innovation. It could be easily scaled up, with a few tweaks, for all.

The right wingers can't support it because they're told not to, and the left wingers are LYING to the voters, calling Single Payer "Medicare for All".

As usual, the wings are slowing down progress and causing harm.
.

What a shock, "Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage is popular and efficient" all we need to do is "tweak" it. WTF, fricken liberal wants to "tweak" it until it's not popular and efficient, but free for everyone...fricken idiot.
Wrong. "Free for everyone" would be Single Payer, and I'm strongly against that.

You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Another Trumpster attack based on abject ignorance and childish arrogance.
.
 
'The MAJOR difference between Medicare and Private Insurance...'

You mean BESIDES the fact that if you like your doctor / plan you CAN'T keep them?

You mean BESIDES the faxct that if the rabid Leftist Liberal Socialist Democrat monkeys win and impose their plan Private Insurance will be illegal?

.
 
The right wingers can't support it because they're told not

I saw it's effects first hand when it was needed for SERIOUS medical problems. It failed miserably when my family needed it the most.

So, yeah.....fuck off with that nonsense.
I would need the details before I believed that.
.
I offered a brief explanation above.
The system only allowed an in home nurse visit 3 days a week when she was released after open heart surgery. We begged for more assistance but ultimately were forced to put her in a home with a TERRIBLE quality of life.

And that was just one asinine decision that expedited her death.

She should have been put in a skilled nursing facility for rehab and Medicare would have paid 100% for first 20 days and if she had a supplement they would have picked up her co pay up until day 100. The doctor could have ordered the skf. Home health care has always been intermittent.

There would have been just about or close to the same limitations as an individual private plan. Check your's out or your group plan bet it's not much better if at all.

Long Term Care policy.
 
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The Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage system is very popular and efficient, because it includes an excellent blend of public foundation and free market competition & innovation. It could be easily scaled up, with a few tweaks, for all.

The right wingers can't support it because they're told not to, and the left wingers are LYING to the voters, calling Single Payer "Medicare for All".

As usual, the wings are slowing down progress and causing harm.
.

What a shock, "Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage is popular and efficient" all we need to do is "tweak" it. WTF, fricken liberal wants to "tweak" it until it's not popular and efficient, but free for everyone...fricken idiot.
Wrong. "Free for everyone" would be Single Payer, and I'm strongly against that.

You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Another Trumpster attack based on abject ignorance and childish arrogance.
.


I see, so Medicare for all is NOT single payer....idiot.
 
Anyone have a better idea of how we should insure people who are 65 and older?
 
The Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage system is very popular and efficient, because it includes an excellent blend of public foundation and free market competition & innovation. It could be easily scaled up, with a few tweaks, for all.

The right wingers can't support it because they're told not to, and the left wingers are LYING to the voters, calling Single Payer "Medicare for All".

As usual, the wings are slowing down progress and causing harm.
.

What a shock, "Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage is popular and efficient" all we need to do is "tweak" it. WTF, fricken liberal wants to "tweak" it until it's not popular and efficient, but free for everyone...fricken idiot.
Wrong. "Free for everyone" would be Single Payer, and I'm strongly against that.

You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Another Trumpster attack based on abject ignorance and childish arrogance.
.


I see, so Medicare for all is NOT single payer....idiot.
Correct, it isn't.

Maybe you should educate yourself on the Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage system.

Or just wallow in your hate and ignorance, whatever works.
.
 
2018 Medicare Trustee Report...page 7
The estimated depletion date for the HI trust fund is 2026, 3 years earlier than in last year’s report.
As in past years, the Trustees have determined that the fund is not adequately financed over the next 10 years.
https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statis...eports/ReportsTrustFunds/Downloads/TR2018.pdf
So this means there are no reserves. It will be depleted in 6 years.

BUT private health insurance have to BY states' laws where they companies want to sell their health insurance MUST have RESERVES to pay future claims.

In the United States and most developed nations, regulators impose required statutory capital reserve ratios on insurance companies to conduct business. There may be large differences in the nature and definition of acceptable reserves, which can make it tricky for companies, and their shareholders, that operate in multiple jurisdictions.
Most reserve requirements are established at the state level. Standard levels include 8% to 12% of the insurer's total revenue, but the actual amount needed varies depending on the types of risk a company currently assumes.
What level of reserve ratios is typical for an insurance company to protect against large losses?

So those people mouthing "Medicare for All" means that 1,400 private health insurance companies that employ over 500,000 people and pay over $100 billion a year in taxes would be no longer in business.

Has that cost i.e. these insurance companies going out of business AND their reserves for future claims...are these claims going to be paid by Medicare for All?

As it is with most ideas spouted by people who are economically challenged they do not understand
the elementary aspects of arithmetic! If "Medicare for All" replaces private health insurance this would throw American industries including health insurance companies completely for a loss.

Finally... remember when Obama said.."46 million Americans are uninsured and over half of all Americans have pre-existing conditions"?

Both are lies.
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How about getting the fucking government out of the helath care regulatory business and let the market provide the service without government interference?

Heath care is the most regulated industry in the country so no wonder it gets screwed up.

The government fucks up everything it touches.
 
Their must be a reason why Medicare came into existence in the first place.
 
The right wingers can't support it because they're told not

I saw it's effects first hand when it was needed for SERIOUS medical problems. It failed miserably when my family needed it the most.

So, yeah.....fuck off with that nonsense.
I would need the details before I believed that.
.
I offered a brief explanation above.
The system only allowed an in home nurse visit 3 days a week when she was released after open heart surgery. We begged for more assistance but ultimately were forced to put her in a home with a TERRIBLE quality of life.

And that was just one asinine decision that expedited her death.

So why didn't you pay for a private plan that covered that...oh, right, because private insurance does the same thing.
Because I was fresh out of prison and struggling to take care of my kids and wife.
And yes she had a supplemental plan. Even with that her out of pocket just for scripts was over 600 a month for what she could afford to buy.

If government insurance was so good she wouldn't have needed a supplemental

Medicare only pays for certain Part B drugs and never was intended to cover outside of hospital nor a supplement.
 
The right wingers can't support it because they're told not

I saw it's effects first hand when it was needed for SERIOUS medical problems. It failed miserably when my family needed it the most.

So, yeah.....fuck off with that nonsense.

And I've seen first hand the same thing with private insurance...in fact I guarantee there are many more stories about private insurance denying care far more frequently than Medicare or Medicaid. So, fuck off with your "oh, but I have a personal story" bullshit.


REALLY??

How about I say FO with your personal story bullshit?

PROVE me wrong.

In other words, YOU ARE LYING....


/end of Seawytch FAKE rant

You're quite the dumb shit, you do have the same problem with private insurance whether individual or group. Just try to get them to grant you home health care everyday of the week for months, won't happen. You are the one that does not know what they are talking about.
 
As it is with most ideas spouted by people who are economically challenged they do not understand
the elementary aspects of arithmetic! If "Medicare for All" replaces private health insurance this would throw American industries including health insurance companies completely for a loss.

Oh bullshit. Medicare just farms its "services" out to private insurance companies anyway. Medicare for All would just change their business model, from contracting with employers to contracting with government.

Don't get me wrong, I'm radically opposed to Welfare for All. It's just that your reasons aren't compelling. It wouldn't decimate the insurance industry. Some insurance companies will get screwed, but the major players will adapt and make a killing.

Medicare for All is wrong because it gives government too much control of health insurance.
 
The right wingers can't support it because they're told not

I saw it's effects first hand when it was needed for SERIOUS medical problems. It failed miserably when my family needed it the most.

So, yeah.....fuck off with that nonsense.

And I've seen first hand the same thing with private insurance...in fact I guarantee there are many more stories about private insurance denying care far more frequently than Medicare or Medicaid. So, fuck off with your "oh, but I have a personal story" bullshit.


REALLY??

How about I say FO with your personal story bullshit?

PROVE me wrong.

In other words, YOU ARE LYING....


/end of Seawytch FAKE rant

Study: U.S. health care denials on rise

Fortunately for you, the ACA expanded mental health coverage.


Unfortunately it's not enough.
 
One difference between private insurance and Medicare - my doctor can not take anymore Medicare patients because he’d go out of business. Medicare does not pay the full cost to providers.


....And private insurers do pay full cost to providers? Don't think so.
 
As it is with most ideas spouted by people who are economically challenged they do not understand
the elementary aspects of arithmetic! If "Medicare for All" replaces private health insurance this would throw American industries including health insurance companies completely for a loss.

Oh bullshit. Medicare just farms its "services" out to private insurance companies anyway. Medicare for All would just change their business model, from contracting with employers to contracting with government.

Don't get me wrong, I'm radically opposed to Welfare for All. It's just that your reasons aren't compelling. It wouldn't decimate the insurance industry. Some insurance companies will get screwed, but the major players will adapt and make a killing.

Medicare for All is wrong because it gives government too much control of health insurance.
Better than your employer having control of your insurance. Better than being tied to a job because you don’t want to lose your insurance.
 
The Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage system is very popular and efficient, because it includes an excellent blend of public foundation and free market competition & innovation. It could be easily scaled up, with a few tweaks, for all.

The right wingers can't support it because they're told not to, and the left wingers are LYING to the voters, calling Single Payer "Medicare for All".

As usual, the wings are slowing down progress and causing harm.
.

What a shock, "Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage is popular and efficient" all we need to do is "tweak" it. WTF, fricken liberal wants to "tweak" it until it's not popular and efficient, but free for everyone...fricken idiot.
Wrong. "Free for everyone" would be Single Payer, and I'm strongly against that.

You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Another Trumpster attack based on abject ignorance and childish arrogance.
.


I see, so Medicare for all is NOT single payer....idiot.
Correct, it isn't.

Maybe you should educate yourself on the Medicare / Medicare Supplement / Medicare Advantage system.

Or just wallow in your hate and ignorance, whatever works.
.

Great, once you and/or Guadalupe have paid INTO Medicare for at least 10 years, both of you can get Medicare.
 

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