The Maturation Of Our President

[francoHFW]

Assad gave up his chem weapons. Now you can call Obama a dictator, hater chump.

 

[francoHFW]

Oh wait, Antares has already admitted he's a god-awful racist hater...enjoy hell lol...

Yesssssssss. Because you have the Authority to send someone there, right?

God doesn't like racist haters. Idiot.

 

[Pop23]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

I misread the OP

I thought this was about Clinton/Lewinski

 

[Oldstyle]

No, he's still the empty-headed community organizer he's been for years.

If that's true why are all his critics and opponents so miserably ineffective?

huh? why are his followers so disconnected from reality?

I wonder why the President's political opponents haven't been more effective in their efforts to impede his agenda? Why haven't they accomplished anything they said they'd do?

Ah, because Democrats control the Senate and the Oval Office? That may be one of the more vacuous questions I've seen on here, Dis! It's the kind of nonsense the RDerp posts.

Republicans have spent the past six years promising to stop the President from doing all kinds of things. I guess they're just a bunch of full of shit liars.

Well...unless someone totally changed the way our system of government functions and I didn't get the memo...you can't pass much in the way of legislation if you only control the House and someone else controls the Senate and the Presidency.

What's amusing is that it wasn't Republicans who stopped Obama's plans but moderate Democrats who stopped much of Barry's progressive agenda when Democrats controlled the House, Senate and the Oval Office.

 

[francoHFW]

BS, dupe. That was less than 6 months, less than 13 days with filibusterproof votes and in session, AND with Pubs stringing them along on O-care...

Pubs don't WANT to pass anything- they already HAVE Voodoo pandering to the greedy idiot rich- and screwing the nonrich and the country...

 

[francoHFW]

Pubs have stopped so many good things- like a full recovery, the Schumer/Lindsay Graham SOLUTION for illegal workers not paying taxes, and now the living wage this economy needs, and higher taxes on the bloated rich and giant corporations to fund training and cheaper college loans, lower taxes on the struggling EVERYONE ELSE. etc etc etc. Pub a-holes and their chumps...

 

[Discombobulated]

No, he's still the empty-headed community organizer he's been for years.

If that's true why are all his critics and opponents so miserably ineffective?

huh? why are his followers so disconnected from reality?

I wonder why the President's political opponents haven't been more effective in their efforts to impede his agenda? Why haven't they accomplished anything they said they'd do?

Ah, because Democrats control the Senate and the Oval Office? That may be one of the more vacuous questions I've seen on here, Dis! It's the kind of nonsense the RDerp posts.

Republicans have spent the past six years promising to stop the President from doing all kinds of things. I guess they're just a bunch of full of shit liars.

Well...unless someone totally changed the way our system of government functions and I didn't get the memo...you can't pass much in the way of legislation if you only control the House and someone else controls the Senate and the Presidency.

What's amusing is that it wasn't Republicans who stopped Obama's plans but moderate Democrats who stopped much of Barry's progressive agenda when Democrats controlled the House, Senate and the Oval Office.

But they promised......Republican politicians ran for office on the promise of stopping the Obama agenda dead in it's tracks. Are they incompetent or simply dishonest? Did they make promises they knew they couldn't keep?

 

[Vigilante]

Pubs have stopped so many good things- like a full recovery, the Schumer/Lindsay Graham SOLUTION for illegal workers not paying taxes, and now the living wage this economy needs, and higher taxes on the bloated rich and giant corporations to fund training and cheaper college loans, lower taxes on the struggling EVERYONE ELSE. etc etc etc. Pub a-holes and their chumps...

The village idiot has escaped from Kenya!.... That's the second one that escaped in 6 years! Socialism, you just have to love Franconstein!

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Pubs have stopped so many good things- like a full recovery, the Schumer/Lindsay Graham SOLUTION for illegal workers not paying taxes, and now the living wage this economy needs, and higher taxes on the bloated rich and giant corporations to fund training and cheaper college loans, lower taxes on the struggling EVERYONE ELSE. etc etc etc. Pub a-holes and their chumps...

You seem like you are very angry, very stupid, and possibly impotent.

Seriously man, get a grip here. The Democrats had years to do essentially whatever they wanted, luckily they didn't do much, because what they did do, they fucked up.

 

[shart_attack]

Oh wait, Antares has already admitted he's a god-awful racist hater...enjoy hell lol...

Yesssssssss. Because you have the Authority to send someone there, right?

God doesn't like racist haters. Idiot.

Yeah, no shit, Sherlock.

He also doesn't like it when manipulative people like yourself invoke His name for bullshit political purposes and allegations — and calling people on the Internet "racists" just because they're smarter than you or just simply don't agree with you is a perfect example of someone's whimsically invoking His Name for a purely ulterior and less-than-sacrosanct motive.

But I guess you already knew that, didn't you, smart guy?

 

[The Rabbi]

No, he's still the empty-headed community organizer he's been for years.

If that's true why are all his critics and opponents so miserably ineffective?

huh? why are his followers so disconnected from reality?

I wonder why the President's political opponents haven't been more effective in their efforts to impede his agenda? Why haven't they accomplished anything they said they'd do?

Ah, because Democrats control the Senate and the Oval Office? That may be one of the more vacuous questions I've seen on here, Dis! It's the kind of nonsense the RDerp posts.

Republicans have spent the past six years promising to stop the President from doing all kinds of things. I guess they're just a bunch of full of shit liars.

Well...unless someone totally changed the way our system of government functions and I didn't get the memo...you can't pass much in the way of legislation if you only control the House and someone else controls the Senate and the Presidency.

What's amusing is that it wasn't Republicans who stopped Obama's plans but moderate Democrats who stopped much of Barry's progressive agenda when Democrats controlled the House, Senate and the Oval Office.

But they promised......Republican politicians ran for office on the promise of stopping the Obama agenda dead in it's tracks. Are they incompetent or simply dishonest? Did they make promises they knew they couldn't keep?

They did.
How much major legislation passed after 2010?
Dolt.

 

[TooTall]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.

Our observations do not necessarily conflict - a first for us - nor are they mutually exclusive. An American president - even one committed to changing America's course - can find that circumstances (reality) may require the sort of action that appears to repeat the past. In this case Obama recognizes the scope of the IS threat and seems determined to nip it in the bud.

yeah ok, they SAY better late than NEVER
for crying out loud. he should've done this a hell of lot SOONER. Instead he gives a speech after one our citizens is BEHEADED then goes back to playing his golf game. so really we're sorry if some us don't fall on our knees and see him as "maturing"

Did you throw a tantrum every time Bush played a round of golf, or whatever recreational activity you want to include,

the day after an American got killed in Iraq?

Bush had the common decency to QUIT playing golf because he didn't want to be on the golf course when American troops were being killed. Obama doesn't care.

Let's get Bush's REAL opinion, as opposed to an asshole's like you:

"I see our president criticized for playing golf. I don't. I think he ought to play golf," Bush told the Golf Channel. "Because I know what it's like to be in the bubble. I know the pressures of the job, and to be able to get outside and play golf with some of your pals is important for the president. It does give you an outlet."

Now fuck off you racist piece of human garbage.

George W. Bush defends Obama 8217 s frequent golf outings - The Washington Post

From the same article you posted from

Mr. Bush quit playing golf in the public eye shortly after invading Iraq.

“I don’t want some mom, whose son may have recently died, to see the commander in chief playing golf,” he said in an interview at the time.

Perhaps you will explain what is racist about that.

Your racism is common knowledge. Bush pursued other forms of recreation, which the article acknowledges and which I alluded to in my post, fuckwit.

Your assertion that I am a racist is based on the fact that I disagree with some of Obama's policies because he is black. That makes you the racist POS, not me.

 

[francoHFW]

Racism is when one believes a race is inferior, and discriminates against them. As a hater dupe, you don't understand that anymore. Functional idiot. Also, thus chances are you are a racist.

 

[JakeStarkey]

They did.
How much major legislation passed after 2010?
Dolt.

To the great damage of the country because the two parties would not agree to constitutionally do their job, govern the country.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Funny, but I got the feeling and the distinct impression that Obama has had so little time to politicize the preferred outcome that he is taking this action with as pure a set of motives as I've seen.

Usually he gives off a sense of having an ulterior motive behind every seemingly good thing he does. It's like he does nothing until he has considered how, by tweaking this or that in just the right way, he can turn most every event into one which provides him some unexpected political opportunities or political advantages for him or the Dems.

His attitude in the speech tonite reminded me just a little bit, of a time early in my sales career when I felt I needed a sale so much that I decided to just be as honest and candid with this one particular customer as I could possibly be.

I told her the invoice price so she would know i was taking everything I could off of the price and I was going against the unwrit rules of the game by telling her my bottom line without any dickering.

I was GIVING her the deal of the month and not only did I break the rules to share this info with her, she didn't believe my sincerity!

That's the memory that came to my mind while watching Obama tonite.

He was being straight with us for once and now no one will believe or trust him!

LOLOL

But I shouldn't be laughing.

America needs to get this one right.

There's no fooling around possible.

Everything Obama does is carefully crafted to his political advantage

BREAKING for Spoon: Obama is a politician lol...unlike Pubs, he also does what's best for the country...

well evidently almost 70% who disapproves of the job your hero is doing don't see it your way
so sorry

BS- it's 39%, still within margin of error of what it's been for years, hater chump.

I'll concede that asshole , 61% of American thinks Bammy is an ill prepared asshole.

70% of Americans thought invading Iraq was a good idea. Every once in awhile the People get it wrong for awhile.

Widespread disapproval of Obama's foreign policy, for sure, but no one has any better ideas.

The president's disapproval rating on foreign policy is mostly based on the delusion that presidents have magical powers to fix anything that goes wrong anywhere in the world.

 

[Oldstyle]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

And here are 5 things that could go wrong with his 4-point plan:

Five things that could go horribly wrong with Obama s action in Iraq WashingtonExaminer.com

The biggest problem I see is this: People think ISIS is just camping out in the desert so a couple of daisy cutters dropped judiciously will solve the problem.
It isnt so.
They are in charge of some major cities. All they need to do is retreat to those cities, use the population is shields, as Hamas did in Gaza, and the problem goes away. America is not going to start bombing civilians.
Then we will have to send ground troops.
ISIS must be laughing their asses off.

The whole point is to get Iraqi, Kurds, moderate Syrian rebels, and othe ME allies fighting fundie terrorists...and now that Booosh's a-hole buddy Maliki is gone, things are looking up....it's much better than the Booosh/RW/chickenhawk/hater dupe jingoism/send in the 82 Airborne idiocy. Thank god no drama Obama is in charge, not you fools...

Most absurd.

Both W and BO are warmongering interventionists.

What we should do is stop intervening and bring all our forces home. Intervening got us where we are today. Continuing a failed policy only results in more death, destruction, and debt....but it does empower the state.

Unlike with RW chickenhawk morons in the past, we're coming to the aid of people without entering the country and pissing the whole area off...just like before America became a RW ASSHOLE.

Yeah...because as we all know...dropping bombs on people from 10,000 feet up doesn't make them hate you! As long as you do it without "boots on the ground" you're fine...RIGHT?

Another confused liberal trying to come to terms with what war is...

 

[Oldstyle]

For those of you that think Bush would have supported Barry's teeing off 16 minutes after the end of his speech to the nation about the beheading of James Foley...dream on!!!

 

[The Rabbi]

Funny, but I got the feeling and the distinct impression that Obama has had so little time to politicize the preferred outcome that he is taking this action with as pure a set of motives as I've seen.

Usually he gives off a sense of having an ulterior motive behind every seemingly good thing he does. It's like he does nothing until he has considered how, by tweaking this or that in just the right way, he can turn most every event into one which provides him some unexpected political opportunities or political advantages for him or the Dems.

His attitude in the speech tonite reminded me just a little bit, of a time early in my sales career when I felt I needed a sale so much that I decided to just be as honest and candid with this one particular customer as I could possibly be.

I told her the invoice price so she would know i was taking everything I could off of the price and I was going against the unwrit rules of the game by telling her my bottom line without any dickering.

I was GIVING her the deal of the month and not only did I break the rules to share this info with her, she didn't believe my sincerity!

That's the memory that came to my mind while watching Obama tonite.

He was being straight with us for once and now no one will believe or trust him!

LOLOL

But I shouldn't be laughing.

America needs to get this one right.

There's no fooling around possible.

Everything Obama does is carefully crafted to his political advantage

BREAKING for Spoon: Obama is a politician lol...unlike Pubs, he also does what's best for the country...

well evidently almost 70% who disapproves of the job your hero is doing don't see it your way
so sorry

BS- it's 39%, still within margin of error of what it's been for years, hater chump.

I'll concede that asshole , 61% of American thinks Bammy is an ill prepared asshole.

70% of Americans thought invading Iraq was a good idea. Every once in awhile the People get it wrong for awhile.

Widespread disapproval of Obama's foreign policy, for sure, but no one has any better ideas.

The president's disapproval rating on foreign policy is mostly based on the delusion that presidents have magical powers to fix anything that goes wrong anywhere in the world.

The Iraq War was a fine idea and remained so. Too bad Dems scattered when it began to be unpopular.
Disapproval of Obama's foreign policy is based on the fact that he has fucked up more situations more times than anyone else probably in history.
And yes, virtually everyone has better ideas.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Funny, but I got the feeling and the distinct impression that Obama has had so little time to politicize the preferred outcome that he is taking this action with as pure a set of motives as I've seen.

Usually he gives off a sense of having an ulterior motive behind every seemingly good thing he does. It's like he does nothing until he has considered how, by tweaking this or that in just the right way, he can turn most every event into one which provides him some unexpected political opportunities or political advantages for him or the Dems.

His attitude in the speech tonite reminded me just a little bit, of a time early in my sales career when I felt I needed a sale so much that I decided to just be as honest and candid with this one particular customer as I could possibly be.

I told her the invoice price so she would know i was taking everything I could off of the price and I was going against the unwrit rules of the game by telling her my bottom line without any dickering.

I was GIVING her the deal of the month and not only did I break the rules to share this info with her, she didn't believe my sincerity!

That's the memory that came to my mind while watching Obama tonite.

He was being straight with us for once and now no one will believe or trust him!

LOLOL

But I shouldn't be laughing.

America needs to get this one right.

There's no fooling around possible.

Everything Obama does is carefully crafted to his political advantage

BREAKING for Spoon: Obama is a politician lol...unlike Pubs, he also does what's best for the country...

well evidently almost 70% who disapproves of the job your hero is doing don't see it your way
so sorry

BS- it's 39%, still within margin of error of what it's been for years, hater chump.

I'll concede that asshole , 61% of American thinks Bammy is an ill prepared asshole.

70% of Americans thought invading Iraq was a good idea. Every once in awhile the People get it wrong for awhile.

Widespread disapproval of Obama's foreign policy, for sure, but no one has any better ideas.

The president's disapproval rating on foreign policy is mostly based on the delusion that presidents have magical powers to fix anything that goes wrong anywhere in the world.

The Iraq War was a fine idea and remained so. Too bad Dems scattered when it began to be unpopular.
Disapproval of Obama's foreign policy is based on the fact that he has fucked up more situations more times than anyone else probably in history.
And yes, virtually everyone has better ideas.

Name the better idea for dealing with ISIS.

Name the better idea for dealing with the Ukraine.

 

[Discombobulated]

No, he's still the empty-headed community organizer he's been for years.

If that's true why are all his critics and opponents so miserably ineffective?

huh? why are his followers so disconnected from reality?

I wonder why the President's political opponents haven't been more effective in their efforts to impede his agenda? Why haven't they accomplished anything they said they'd do?

Ah, because Democrats control the Senate and the Oval Office? That may be one of the more vacuous questions I've seen on here, Dis! It's the kind of nonsense the RDerp posts.

Republicans have spent the past six years promising to stop the President from doing all kinds of things. I guess they're just a bunch of full of shit liars.

Well...unless someone totally changed the way our system of government functions and I didn't get the memo...you can't pass much in the way of legislation if you only control the House and someone else controls the Senate and the Presidency.

What's amusing is that it wasn't Republicans who stopped Obama's plans but moderate Democrats who stopped much of Barry's progressive agenda when Democrats controlled the House, Senate and the Oval Office.

But they promised......Republican politicians ran for office on the promise of stopping the Obama agenda dead in it's tracks. Are they incompetent or simply dishonest? Did they make promises they knew they couldn't keep?

They did.
How much major legislation passed after 2010?
Dolt.

Those phony assholes ran for office on repealing Obamacare when they knew they'd never do it. Sounds like they were making false promises, sounds just like they were lying doesn't it.