The Newt files

:lmao: Pathetically desperate So if killing a few fellow Americans is what it takes to rid us of the second, many as you see approve.

I kind of thought it meant we could keep a bunch of severed arms in a box for some weird reason.... :eek:

That way I can smack an intruder with it.... :doubt:
Right to bear arms...or ARM bears...Or am I confused?:lol:

Doesnt matter...Discussion stops when the 45 talks.
 
IN CASE YOU STILL DO NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE ESSENTIAL MEANING OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE REGARDING THE CONSTITUTIONAL AND PRACTICAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN RELIGION AND CIVIL GOVERNMENT, READ JAMES MADISON'S REPLY TO THE BAPTISTS:



June 3, 1811



I have recd. fellow Citizens your address, approving my Objection to the Bill contain[in]g a grant of public land, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House Missippi Terry. Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion & Civil Govt as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constn: of the U.S. I could not have otherwise discharged my duty on the occasion which presented itself. Among the various religious Societies in our Country, none have been more vigilant or constant in maintain[in]g that distinction, than the Society of which you make a part, and it is an honourable proof of your sincerity & integrity, that you are as ready to do so, in a case favoring the interest of your brethren, as in other cases. It is but just, at the same time, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House, to remark that their application to the Natl. Legislature does not appear to have contemplated a grant of the Land in question, but on terms that might be equitable to the public as well as to themselves. Accept my friendly respects


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President Madison's letter as quoted above is located in The Papers of James Madison: Presidential Series, 3:323-324. To Mr. Madison, I say, thank you; and in appreciation of the historical Baptist position, I say, Amen!


James Madison's Veto Messages by Gene Garman

you are calling James Madison a liar then too willow

so you are joining willow in spitting on the father of our constitution Tins?
A hat trick! Triple TM quote.

Awesome.
 
Yeah and James Madison TOLD you what he meant in the first amendment.

why do you call him a liar?

He wrote the thing
 
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



He did write it down.

Why do you hate the man who wrote the constitution?
Why do you hate what he wrote?
 
James Madison is on record in his writings clearing the matter up completely.

why do you people just keep lying about it?
 
how can anyone with a brain argue against what the father of the constitution says about whats in the constitution?

Ironically, most conservatives are obsessed with 'originalism', or original intent, which relies wholly on what the founders believed or said they believed about the constitution.
 
how can anyone with a brain argue against what the father of the constitution says about whats in the constitution?

Ironically, most conservatives are obsessed with 'originalism', or original intent, which relies wholly on what the founders believed or said they believed about the constitution.

I just dont understand such duplicity.

I dont understand what they think they gain by playing this game.



Dont they understand people come to these sites and look and not talk.

Do they think being such brick brained hypocrits wins them votes?
 
how can anyone with a brain argue against what the father of the constitution says about whats in the constitution?

Ironically, most conservatives are obsessed with 'originalism', or original intent, which relies wholly on what the founders believed or said they believed about the constitution.

I just dont understand such duplicity.

I dont understand what they think they gain by playing this game.



Dont they understand people come to these sites and look and not talk.

Do they think being such brick brained hypocrits wins them votes?
Fallacy. WE are talking, writing, yelling...YOU aren't reading.
 
James Madison's Veto Messages by Gene Garman


June 3, 1811



I have recd. fellow Citizens your address, approving my Objection to the Bill contain[in]g a grant of public land, to the Baptist Church at Salem Meeting House Missippi Terry. Having always regarded the practical distinction between Religion & Civil Govt as essential to the purity of both, and as guaranteed by the Constn: of the U.S.


Madison is the Father of our constitution.



essential to the purity of both

Christ woman! Quoting yourself as an authority is pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel
 
why when you are faced with facts you just start plying games instead of having the class to admitt you were wrong?

Do you think it wins you any converts?

:lol:.....you do the same thing.....:lol:


and out comes the pee wee defense




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So, um, what does that have to do with anything related to his ability to do his job as President?

You need to ask that question to all the conservatives who repeated 'character matters' over and over and over and over again,

like a mantra, in the nineties, when they were talking about Clinton.

Apparently, they were just spewing horseshit, right?

Amazing what they will lie about on the right huh?
your right i agree.....now will you say the same about the Left?....
 

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