The Nuking of Nagasaki: Even More Immoral and Unnecessary than Hiroshima

He was wrong as evidenced by the fact there is NO record in Japan or the US Soviet Union or anywhere else that Japan offered to surrender BEFORE August 10.
Hmmmm. You can prove they did not have such meetings and intentionally did not keep notes?
He was wrong as evidenced by the fact there is NO record in Japan or the US Soviet Union or anywhere else that Japan offered to surrender BEFORE August 10.
 
The use of [the atomic bombs] at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons ... The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.

— Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman, 1950, [101]
 
Hmmmm. You can prove they did not have such meetings and intentionally did not keep notes?
If you ever decide to learn about the subject, you will find that Japan did not make any surrender offers until August 10.


The use of [the atomic bombs] at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons ... The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children.

— Fleet Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman, 1950, [101]
More pathetic whining from Leahy.

If Japan was ready to surrender, it was a pretty bad move on their part to not surrender.

How do you think the Cuban Missile Crisis would have turned out if the US and USSR had not had the example of Hiroshima to restrain them from launching a nuclear war?
 
What do you think about what Leahy said.


I posted his quote
He is wrong. Pretty damn simply if an offer was made then it would have appeared in the Japanese Government files and the US Government files. Again making a claim with no evidence is stupid.
 
He is wrong. Pretty damn simply if an offer was made then it would have appeared in the Japanese Government files and the US Government files. Again making a claim with no evidence is stupid.
Hmmm


How about Bombs Away Lemay

The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.

— Major General Curtis LeMay, XXI Bomber Command, September 1945, [102]


all these quotes can be found here


 
Hmmm


How about Bombs Away Lemay

The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.

— Major General Curtis LeMay, XXI Bomber Command, September 1945, [102]


all these quotes can be found here


They are wrong the fact is that even after 2 bombs and an invasion by the Soviets the Government of Japan voted to continue the war and after the Emperor overruled them the Army members staged a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. So much for your claim Japan was trying to surrender.
 
They are wrong the fact is that even after 2 bombs and an invasion by the Soviets the Government of Japan voted to continue the war and after the Emperor overruled them the Army members staged a Coup to stop the Emperor from surrendering. So much for your claim Japan was trying to surrender.
Yet they did surrender. So surrender was definitely an option.

How about Halsey?

The first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment ... It was a mistake to ever drop it ... [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it.

— Fleet Admiral William Halsey Jr., 1946, [103]
 
The laws of war make it right. We had every right to keep attacking Japan until they surrendered.

We had control of the seas and the airspace around Japan
We had all the time in the world

We were the only nation on earth who had THE BOMB

We could end it in two days or two months, it didn’t matter
It was OVER

Killing hundreds of thousands of civilians wasn’t necessary
 
We had control of the seas and the airspace around Japan
We had all the time in the world

We were the only nation on earth who had THE BOMB

We could end it in two days or two months, it didn’t matter
It was OVER

Killing hundreds of thousands of civilians wasn’t necessary
Japan had almost no ability to do anything. We could have sat on our ships in the sea of japan and waited. It would have been over in a few weeks
 
We had control of the seas and the airspace around Japan
We had all the time in the world
We were the only nation on earth who had THE BOMB
We could end it in two days or two months, it didn’t matter
It was OVER
Killing hundreds of thousands of civilians wasn’t necessary
We were going to keep attacking Japan until they surrendered.

And if they were still refusing to surrender when we were ready to invade, we were going to invade.


We had the BOMB
Nobody else did
We had all the time in the world
We were not interested in waiting.
 
How about Bombs Away Lemay
The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.
— Major General Curtis LeMay, XXI Bomber Command, September 1945, [102]
So what?

I mean, maybe that would be useful information in a game of Trivial Pursuit. But otherwise who cares?


How about Halsey?
The first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment ... It was a mistake to ever drop it ... [the scientists] had this toy and they wanted to try it out, so they dropped it.
— Fleet Admiral William Halsey Jr., 1946, [103]
I see the name Alperovitz in that cite note, so there is no reason to think that Halsey actually said that.

Alperovitz is known for editing quotes to make them sound like the opposite of what people really said.

It makes it sound like Halsey is a goofy nut who doesn't understand why we bomb countries when we are at war with them.

But knowing Alperovitz, that's probably not what the guy actually said.


Japan had almost no ability to do anything. We could have sat on our ships in the sea of japan and waited. It would have been over in a few weeks
So what?

How do you think the Cuban Missile Crisis would have turned out if the US and USSR had not had the example of Hiroshima to restrain them from launching a nuclear war?
 

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