The PC Police should apologize....

[Mac1958]

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... to the families of the two dead NY cops.

You fan the flames, you are responsible for the consequences.

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The individuals doing the shootings are responsible, but no doubt found encouragement from the many signs calling for death to crackers and cops.

Remember the Gabbi Gifford shooting? The left immediately started blaming hateful rhetoric and even pointed fingers at Sarah Palin for having a target on a map showing Arizona as a state to try and win over.

The left said the opposition to leftist policies led to the shooting. Of course, it had nothing to do with it and was about a crazy guy with a weird obsession with Gabbi.

Now we have race baiters openly supporting some vile rioters calling for the death of cops and whities. Now we have police killings and the left remains silent.

Another cop was shot and killed in Florida. Does anyone here believe that the hateful rhetoric and calling for deaths of cops played a role? Has the vile language of the race baiters emboldened some cold-blooded killers? These people who did the shooting are the worst kind of criminals because they are capable of murdering to begin with. And the narrative that cops are evil racists only encouraged the animals to target police.

Florida authorities say 1 police officer shot and killed - Yahoo News

Their denials are insulting but not surprising.

They contribute to this environment and then blame someone else for the predictable consequences.

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[LoneLaugher]

Who is they, Mac? Link to one of the people opposing your argument here saying anything remotely inflammatory regarding cops. Thanks.

 

[Mac1958]

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Wow:

Cops In NJ Long Island Take Precautions Following Deadly Shooting CBS New York

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[LoneLaugher]

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Wow:

Cops In NJ Long Island Take Precautions Following Deadly Shooting CBS New York

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Wow, what?

 

[LoneLaugher]

We've had several people mention the shooters Instagram posts. Has any of that been verified yet?

If so, please link to the news source. Thanks.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

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... to the families of the two dead NY cops.

You fan the flames, you are responsible for the consequences.

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Nonsense.

There is no 'PC Police,' it's an inane contrivance of the partisan right.

And the killer alone is responsible for his heinous act, for the OP to suggest otherwise is ignorant, hateful demagoguery that serves only to contribute to further racial discord.

That you and others on the right believe such idiocy is the problem, not the myth of 'PC Police.'

 

[Mac1958]

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... to the families of the two dead NY cops.

You fan the flames, you are responsible for the consequences.

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Nonsense.

There is no 'PC Police,' it's an inane contrivance of the partisan right.

And the killer alone is responsible for his heinous act, for the OP to suggest otherwise is ignorant, hateful demagoguery that serves only to contribute to further racial discord.

That you and others on the right believe such idiocy is the problem, not the myth of 'PC Police.'

I don't expect you folks to take responsibility.

What I expect are denials and deflection.

And that's precisely what I've been getting.

Thanks.

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[LoneLaugher]

Obama Holder condemn murders of NYPD officers Fox News

Michael Brown s Family Condemns Shootings of NYC Officers - ABC News

Sharpton NYC officials outraged by NYPD shootings

 

[Carib Gyal]

The first responsibility goes to the shooter, as always. You then look at events that may have provided the shooter with his "excuse", his perceived motivation, the environment in which they exist. He provided that motivation when, on his Instagram account, he wrote "I'm putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let's take 2 of theirs."

Some are choosing to pretend that this has nothing to do with the racial tensions surrounding recent events (an example of which would be the crowd shouting "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want them? Now"), and that those who leverage Political Correctness have nothing to do with the racial tensions.

It's my opinion that those people are lying.

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I don't support the protesters who called for dead cops. But who is fanning the flames? There is no excuse for what Fox News did to try to pin that NYC march on the peaceful march Al Sharpton led in Washington DC.

If you need to assign secondary blame, it falls squarely on Fox News...

Fox & Friends Airs Misleading Footage To Suggest Al Sharpton Led Protesters Calling For "Dead Cops"
Fox's Clayton Morris: Al Sharpton Is "Calling To Kill Cops"

Fox & Friends Sunday repeatedly spliced footage of Al Sharpton speaking at a Washington, D.C. "Justice for All" march with footage from a separate event in New York City where some in the crowd chanted for "dead cops" to claim Sharpton is "calling to kill cops."

The December 14 edition of Fox & Friends Sunday opened with video from a December 13 march in New York City where some protesters chanted, "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now." Co-host Anna Kooiman set up the footage by saying, "Thousands march with Al Sharpton against the police," and later promised "more from Sharpton's 'March for Justice.'"

But the footage of protesters chanting anti-police slogans was not from Sharpton's December 13 march, which The Washington Post described as a "peaceful civil rights march led by families of the slain and organized by the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network."

In a later segment flagged by liberal news site Raw Story, Fox sandwiched -- without explanation -- a clip of the "dead cops" chant in between two clips of Sharpton speaking at the "Justice for All" rally, conflating the two events.

Although an on-screen graphic identified the "dead cop" chant as coming from the New York City protest, co-host Tucker Carlson strongly implied that all the footage shown was from Sharpton's event, stating, "Huh. So the first clip you heard people are saying, 'We want the cops dead.' And the second you heard Al Sharpton say 'We're not against the police.'"

Fox's ongoing circus act surely adds to the animosity. But this is not the same as what is happening on the other side of this issue. Unfair accusations of racism do, too, especially when it's crammed in the face of everyone and anyone who is trying to have a "conversation about race". Street protests will always add an element of danger, and there are plenty on the Left who will say essentially anything. Then these same people are defended by the Left.

The two are not the same. Fox babbles. The PC Police act, intimidate, punish.

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Fox is the one adding fuel to the fire. Accusations of racism have some basis. And I blame St. Louis Prosecutor Robert McCulloch for manipulating and abusing the Grand Jury process in the Brown shooting. If Wilson had stood trial and then found innocent, it would have been more acceptable.

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

 

[LoneLaugher]

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... to the families of the two dead NY cops.

You fan the flames, you are responsible for the consequences.

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Nonsense.

There is no 'PC Police,' it's an inane contrivance of the partisan right.

And the killer alone is responsible for his heinous act, for the OP to suggest otherwise is ignorant, hateful demagoguery that serves only to contribute to further racial discord.

That you and others on the right believe such idiocy is the problem, not the myth of 'PC Police.'

I don't expect you folks to take responsibility.

What I expect are denials and deflection.

And that's precisely what I've been getting.

Thanks.

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What folks are you holding responsible, Mac? Name names, please. If you hold me responsible, please link to my words that you find contributed to this tragedy. Thanks again.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I don't support the protesters who called for dead cops. But who is fanning the flames? There is no excuse for what Fox News did to try to pin that NYC march on the peaceful march Al Sharpton led in Washington DC.

If you need to assign secondary blame, it falls squarely on Fox News...

Fox & Friends Airs Misleading Footage To Suggest Al Sharpton Led Protesters Calling For "Dead Cops"
Fox's Clayton Morris: Al Sharpton Is "Calling To Kill Cops"

Fox & Friends Sunday repeatedly spliced footage of Al Sharpton speaking at a Washington, D.C. "Justice for All" march with footage from a separate event in New York City where some in the crowd chanted for "dead cops" to claim Sharpton is "calling to kill cops."

The December 14 edition of Fox & Friends Sunday opened with video from a December 13 march in New York City where some protesters chanted, "What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now." Co-host Anna Kooiman set up the footage by saying, "Thousands march with Al Sharpton against the police," and later promised "more from Sharpton's 'March for Justice.'"

But the footage of protesters chanting anti-police slogans was not from Sharpton's December 13 march, which The Washington Post described as a "peaceful civil rights march led by families of the slain and organized by the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network."

In a later segment flagged by liberal news site Raw Story, Fox sandwiched -- without explanation -- a clip of the "dead cops" chant in between two clips of Sharpton speaking at the "Justice for All" rally, conflating the two events.

Although an on-screen graphic identified the "dead cop" chant as coming from the New York City protest, co-host Tucker Carlson strongly implied that all the footage shown was from Sharpton's event, stating, "Huh. So the first clip you heard people are saying, 'We want the cops dead.' And the second you heard Al Sharpton say 'We're not against the police.'"

Fox's ongoing circus act surely adds to the animosity. But this is not the same as what is happening on the other side of this issue. Unfair accusations of racism do, too, especially when it's crammed in the face of everyone and anyone who is trying to have a "conversation about race". Street protests will always add an element of danger, and there are plenty on the Left who will say essentially anything. Then these same people are defended by the Left.

The two are not the same. Fox babbles. The PC Police act, intimidate, punish.

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Fox is the one adding fuel to the fire. Accusations of racism have some basis. And I blame St. Louis Prosecutor Robert McCulloch for manipulating and abusing the Grand Jury process in the Brown shooting. If Wilson had stood trial and then found innocent, it would have been more acceptable.

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Fox's ongoing circus act surely adds to the animosity. But this is not the same as what is happening on the other side of this issue. Unfair accusations of racism do, too, especially when it's crammed in the face of everyone and anyone who is trying to have a "conversation about race". Street protests will always add an element of danger, and there are plenty on the Left who will say essentially anything. Then these same people are defended by the Left.

The two are not the same. Fox babbles. The PC Police act, intimidate, punish.

.

Fox is the one adding fuel to the fire. Accusations of racism have some basis. And I blame St. Louis Prosecutor Robert McCulloch for manipulating and abusing the Grand Jury process in the Brown shooting. If Wilson had stood trial and then found innocent, it would have been more acceptable.

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

Just like we dont know if protesters were chanting for dead cops, right?

Run along, LL.

 

[Carib Gyal]

Fox's ongoing circus act surely adds to the animosity. But this is not the same as what is happening on the other side of this issue. Unfair accusations of racism do, too, especially when it's crammed in the face of everyone and anyone who is trying to have a "conversation about race". Street protests will always add an element of danger, and there are plenty on the Left who will say essentially anything. Then these same people are defended by the Left.

The two are not the same. Fox babbles. The PC Police act, intimidate, punish.

.

Fox is the one adding fuel to the fire. Accusations of racism have some basis. And I blame St. Louis Prosecutor Robert McCulloch for manipulating and abusing the Grand Jury process in the Brown shooting. If Wilson had stood trial and then found innocent, it would have been more acceptable.

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

We can only go by what the evidence shows, and what the grand jury decided.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Fox is the one adding fuel to the fire. Accusations of racism have some basis. And I blame St. Louis Prosecutor Robert McCulloch for manipulating and abusing the Grand Jury process in the Brown shooting. If Wilson had stood trial and then found innocent, it would have been more acceptable.

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

Just like we dont know if protesters were chanting for dead cops, right?

Run along, LL.

Nope. I'm staying. We don't know. There are lots of things we don't know. It's part of life.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Fox is the one adding fuel to the fire. Accusations of racism have some basis. And I blame St. Louis Prosecutor Robert McCulloch for manipulating and abusing the Grand Jury process in the Brown shooting. If Wilson had stood trial and then found innocent, it would have been more acceptable.

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

We can only go by what the evidence shows, and what the grand jury decided.

The evidence is inconclusive. That is not a debatable point.

 

[Carib Gyal]

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

We can only go by what the evidence shows, and what the grand jury decided.

The evidence is inconclusive. That is not a debatable point.

The grand jury didn't think so.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

Just like we dont know if protesters were chanting for dead cops, right?

Run along, LL.

Nope. I'm staying. We don't know. There are lots of things we don't know. It's part of life.

We dont know if protesters were chanting for dead cops now?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

In Brown or Gardner, the two cases that are constantly referenced as proof of racism, neither has been shown to be true. The protestors and leaders all want to dismiss the actual factual events and make it an issue about everything else BUT the facts. Because the facts just don't support the protests. So let's make it a dialogue about institutional racism instead. And let's target the enforcers of this farce of a stage play, the police.

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

We can only go by what the evidence shows, and what the grand jury decided.

The evidence is inconclusive. That is not a debatable point.

So the grand jury decision was inconclusive?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

Just like we dont know if protesters were chanting for dead cops, right?

Run along, LL.

Nope. I'm staying. We don't know. There are lots of things we don't know. It's part of life.

We dont know if protesters were chanting for dead cops now?

I've seen one video from hundreds of feet away. Where is the close up? This is not something that the news media would hesitate to record. Where is the video showing the faces of the people chanting those words. How many were there? How long were these people shouting that chant?

Let's have some detail beyond that one video, please.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Racism is difficult to 'prove'. But the race of victims of police profiling, shootings and abuse makes a strong case that race in a major factor.

Race is a legal description (among others) in the detaining of a suspect. That's why a cop might get a call to look for a "black male, 6'4", 300lbs, wearing a red bandana, jeans, and red t-shirt." All perfectly legal.

Trying to take a cop's gun, then charging at him, not so much.

You don't know that he tried to take the gun and you don't know that he charged at him. We will never know.

We can only go by what the evidence shows, and what the grand jury decided.

The evidence is inconclusive. That is not a debatable point.

So the grand jury decision was inconclusive?

You are boring me to tears. Read my words. They are very clear. I'm not being in the least bit vague.