The Power of Christ Jesus

[tyroneweaver]

Impossible, since there were more then 3 figures used to make the Jesus image, along with plagiarizing or masking the Baal death scene, wereby the burried in a cave and resurrected missing body story stems from.
The church made these claims to make the story seem historical and to rake in money from forbiden veneration of these places.
In fact the church used to parade around the supposed shack home of Jesus even though they had one at 10 locations-major exhibits at once=scam.

Source for death scene being Baal's story.
predated Assyrian (700bc) Marduk-Bel Tablets housed now in the Brittish Museum.
in which the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.

Job is supposedly the oldest book in the Old Testament.
He perfectly understood the resurrection. Which predates any of this stuff.

 

[Mudda]

Jesus is cool, he died on the cross for my sins. Now I can sin all I want because that bill is already paid.

Do we sin that grace may abound, God forbid.

God doesn't forbid anything, that's why he killed his own son.

 

[Mudda]

Jesus is cool, he died on the cross for my sins. Now I can sin all I want because that bill is already paid.

Alma 11:36-37
36 Now Amulek saith again unto him: Behold thou hast lied, for thou sayest that I spake as though I had authority to command God because I said he shall not save his people in their sins.
37 And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.

Helaman 5:10
10 And remember also the words which Amulek spake unto Zeezrom, in the city of Ammonihah; for he said unto him that the Lord surely should come to redeem his people, but that he should not come to redeem them in their sins, but to redeem them from their sins.

Matthew 4:17
17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

I can only read English. Please try again.

 

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God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

 

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...that's why he killed his own son.

Ummmm... no.

 

[Mudda]

God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

 

[Mudda]

...that's why he killed his own son.

Ummmm... no.

What is proper, let his own son die a horrible death?

 

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God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

That was non responsive. You wrote, "God doesn't forbid anything." I replied, "No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it." That is not the same thing as God doesn't forbid anything.

Your reply, "According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid." Doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. So what? What does that have to do with your belief that God doesn't forbid anything? Of course, He does.

 

[Mudda]

God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

That was non responsive. You wrote, "God doesn't forbid anything." I replied, "No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it." That is not the same thing as God doesn't forbid anything.

Your reply, "According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid." Doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. So what? What does that have to do with your belief that God doesn't forbid anything? Of course, He does.

That's WHY god doesn't forbid anything, because he let his own son die nailed to wood in a diaper to pay for our sins coming up.

 

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God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

That was non responsive. You wrote, "God doesn't forbid anything." I replied, "No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it." That is not the same thing as God doesn't forbid anything.

Your reply, "According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid." Doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. So what? What does that have to do with your belief that God doesn't forbid anything? Of course, He does.

That's WHY god doesn't forbid anything, because he let his own son die nailed to wood in a diaper to pay for our sins coming up.

That's the stupidest logic I have ever heard. How did you make that leap in logic? Is it your expectation that everything must be perfect for a Creator to exist?

 

[Weatherman2020]

God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

The OP is about a prison that went from 40 murders per year to zero.
Because of one reason - the power of Christ.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Jesus is cool, he died on the cross for my sins. Now I can sin all I want because that bill is already paid.

Do we sin that grace may abound, God forbid.

God doesn't forbid anything, that's why he killed his own son.

You realize my quote was from the writings of Paul weren't you?

 

[HaShev]

Even if what you say about us Christians is true, you religion is still false.

Do you realize that makes no sense, as you'd be admitting your faith is bogus no matter what? You also don't know Judaism otherwise you'd realize Jesus can't be who you claim he was-is without you all being Jews.
*slaps forehead*

Oh I'm perfectly aware of my association with the Jews.
The title page of my Book of Mormon states, "To the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ."
I'm gentile in the sense that without adoption I'm gentile.
But I'm Jewish in the sense that I've been adopted into the Israelite clan, and my Savior is Jewish.
Even Jesus stated,"We know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews."
Nobody's backed the Jews or Israel on this forum more than I have. Israel is God's time line for the last days.
It's just that your version of Judaism is, is shall we say, a bit off.

You are infested with pagan beliefs and precepts therefore when calling yourself adopted onto Judaism(when you have no clue) it ends up being
a double negative on claiming my Judaic precepts are skewed it's actually a compliment.
This just admits how adversary -opposing your beliefs are.
You just admited you are Satanists (adversary believers).

Your Job resurrection response on your other post was merely a bump post with absolutely no sense or purpose to this discussion, please make it relevant.

 

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So then the power of Jesus is to fill our prisons with his followers, because the majority come in with cross tattoos, necklaces, and earings and they were raised in the free get away with sin card theology.

No. The power of Jesus is transformation. That is one of the central themes of the NT.

 

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conclusion;
Look in the mirror, the hater is You and the Jesus myth & scam creates that animosity towards anyone who refuses your purple jogging suit & coolaid.

And you are different how?

 

[tyroneweaver]

Even if what you say about us Christians is true, you religion is still false.

Do you realize that makes no sense, as you'd be admitting your faith is bogus no matter what? You also don't know Judaism otherwise you'd realize Jesus can't be who you claim he was-is without you all being Jews.
*slaps forehead*

Oh I'm perfectly aware of my association with the Jews.
The title page of my Book of Mormon states, "To the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ."
I'm gentile in the sense that without adoption I'm gentile.
But I'm Jewish in the sense that I've been adopted into the Israelite clan, and my Savior is Jewish.
Even Jesus stated,"We know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews."
Nobody's backed the Jews or Israel on this forum more than I have. Israel is God's time line for the last days.
It's just that your version of Judaism is, is shall we say, a bit off.

You are infested with pagan beliefs and precepts therefore when calling yourself adopted onto Judaism(when you have no clue) it ends up being
a double negative on claiming my Judaic precepts are skewed it's actually a compliment.
This just admits how adversary -opposing your beliefs are.
You just admited you are Satanists (adversary believers).

Your Job resurrection response on your other post was merely a bump post with absolutely no sense or purpose to this discussion, please make it relevant.

Your boy Paul talked about our adoption into Israel since about 50 AD
My belief in being part of the Jewish family thru Christ has been a Mormon belief since about 1830
So in other words. We have believed this way hundreds of years before your came around sonney.

 

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Historians will tell you that the 3000 year continued existence and success of the Jewish people is inexplicable. That such a tiny group of people could defeat the super power of their day, survive for 3000 years against overwhelming odds and go on to make contributions to mankind disproportionate to their numbers defies all logic and reason. When pressed on the reason for their success, they see nothing special about themselves, they give all credit to God. Claiming to be the chosen people is the least arrogant position they could have taken given their inexplicable survival and success.

 

[Mudda]

God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

That was non responsive. You wrote, "God doesn't forbid anything." I replied, "No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it." That is not the same thing as God doesn't forbid anything.

Your reply, "According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid." Doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. So what? What does that have to do with your belief that God doesn't forbid anything? Of course, He does.

That's WHY god doesn't forbid anything, because he let his own son die nailed to wood in a diaper to pay for our sins coming up.

That's the stupidest logic I have ever heard. How did you make that leap in logic? Is it your expectation that everything must be perfect for a Creator to exist?

That's called bible logic. It says so in the bible. Don't blame me for that nonsense.

 

[Mudda]

God doesn't forbid anything....

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

The OP is about a prison that went from 40 murders per year to zero.
Because of one reason - the power of Christ.

Hey, if it got them to stop murdering it's all good. Whatever story they needed to hear to stop is the right one.

 

[ding]

No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it.

According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid.

That was non responsive. You wrote, "God doesn't forbid anything." I replied, "No. God doesn't stop us directly from violating the laws of right and wrong, but there is a self compensating feature at work so that man is not without excuse when he violates it." That is not the same thing as God doesn't forbid anything.

Your reply, "According to the bible, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, that bill is already paid." Doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. So what? What does that have to do with your belief that God doesn't forbid anything? Of course, He does.

That's WHY god doesn't forbid anything, because he let his own son die nailed to wood in a diaper to pay for our sins coming up.

That's the stupidest logic I have ever heard. How did you make that leap in logic? Is it your expectation that everything must be perfect for a Creator to exist?

That's called bible logic. It says so in the bible. Don't blame me for that nonsense.

lol, no, that's not Bible logic. That is your logic. Logic that you are unable to explain. Don't blame it on the Bible. That would just prove my point that you have an external locus of control.

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