The rich get richer and the poorer remain poorer?

[Frankeneinstein]

While America certainly has its share of people in chronic poverty and those with vast wealth, we are an economically mobile society. There are no class or cast systems that might prevent anyone with initiative from bettering their station in life. IRS data tracking the same group of taxpayers between 1999 and 2007 showed that Americans can move from one economic group to another fairly quickly.For example, nearly 60% of taxpayers who began in the lowest income group in 1999, moved to a higher income group by 2007. Conversely, roughly 40% of taxpayers who started out in the highest income group moved to lower income groups within eight years.
Official Statistics on Inequality, the Top 1%, and Redistribution | Tax Foundation

Can you explain why these are the 5 worst places for upward mobility?

5 Worst Cities in America for Class Mobility

Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi.

Republicans like to say they do things better than us liberals but these are 3 very conservative/red/republican states.

Isn't it obvious? they are under taxed

Undertaxed.....HA! Proof that liberals believe the pathway to prosperity is through overbearing government and confiscatory taxation.
Looking at the success stories in California, Illinois and New Jersey with their budget surplus rich coffers, one need only to agree to have their respective states legislatures apply more and higher taxes. Problem solved, correct?
Spending less, reducing the size and scope of government and practicing fiscal responsibility? NAH....Can't have THAT

My post was sarcasm bro

 

[sealybobo]

While America certainly has its share of people in chronic poverty and those with vast wealth, we are an economically mobile society. There are no class or cast systems that might prevent anyone with initiative from bettering their station in life. IRS data tracking the same group of taxpayers between 1999 and 2007 showed that Americans can move from one economic group to another fairly quickly.For example, nearly 60% of taxpayers who began in the lowest income group in 1999, moved to a higher income group by 2007. Conversely, roughly 40% of taxpayers who started out in the highest income group moved to lower income groups within eight years.
Official Statistics on Inequality, the Top 1%, and Redistribution | Tax Foundation

Can you explain why these are the 5 worst places for upward mobility?

5 Worst Cities in America for Class Mobility

Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi.

Republicans like to say they do things better than us liberals but these are 3 very conservative/red/republican states.

Leave. Go where the jobs are. Don't sit on your ass and whine. Join the military. Get on with life!

Again, this is another perfect example of what Republicans are going to tell the poorly educated blue collar folk who voted for Trump when in a year or two they wonder how come they aren't doing better like Trump promised.

We could have elected Hillary and given out your advice. LOL

You don't know that. You're simply parroting a liberal doom and gloom narrative.

You mean like Republicans told you if hillary won it would be the end of our democracy? You cons sure are easily conned

 

[Norman]

While America certainly has its share of people in chronic poverty and those with vast wealth, we are an economically mobile society. There are no class or cast systems that might prevent anyone with initiative from bettering their station in life. IRS data tracking the same group of taxpayers between 1999 and 2007 showed that Americans can move from one economic group to another fairly quickly.For example, nearly 60% of taxpayers who began in the lowest income group in 1999, moved to a higher income group by 2007. Conversely, roughly 40% of taxpayers who started out in the highest income group moved to lower income groups within eight years.
Official Statistics on Inequality, the Top 1%, and Redistribution | Tax Foundation

If you are poor, why are you whining here and not addressing the real issue... that is getting a job!

Oh because you are lazy and majored in worthlessness aka. gender studies, it's never too late to change. Indeed, do your part in combating poverty before whining.

 

[Dschrute3]

My advice to the OP would be to stop counting on Politicians and Government to make or break you. Because the reality is, most really don't care about you. You have to get out and make it yourself. Don't wait for that Politician 'Messiah' to suddenly appear and save you. It just isn't gonna happen.

But that being said, America is the best place for you to be. It obviously has a lot of problems, but it still provides more opportunities than any other nation on earth. However, you gotta get out there and hustle. If you choose to wait for the Politicians/Government to save you, you'll likely end up a poor bitter old man or woman.

 

[thereisnospoon]

While America certainly has its share of people in chronic poverty and those with vast wealth, we are an economically mobile society. There are no class or cast systems that might prevent anyone with initiative from bettering their station in life. IRS data tracking the same group of taxpayers between 1999 and 2007 showed that Americans can move from one economic group to another fairly quickly.For example, nearly 60% of taxpayers who began in the lowest income group in 1999, moved to a higher income group by 2007. Conversely, roughly 40% of taxpayers who started out in the highest income group moved to lower income groups within eight years.
Official Statistics on Inequality, the Top 1%, and Redistribution | Tax Foundation

Can you explain why these are the 5 worst places for upward mobility?

5 Worst Cities in America for Class Mobility

Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi.

Republicans like to say they do things better than us liberals but these are 3 very conservative/red/republican states.

Leave. Go where the jobs are. Don't sit on your ass and whine. Join the military. Get on with life!

Again, this is another perfect example of what Republicans are going to tell the poorly educated blue collar folk who voted for Trump when in a year or two they wonder how come they aren't doing better like Trump promised.

We could have elected Hillary and given out your advice. LOL

If you have to wonder why you're not doing better, you have first to look at your choices.

Outstanding post!

 

[thereisnospoon]

While America certainly has its share of people in chronic poverty and those with vast wealth, we are an economically mobile society. There are no class or cast systems that might prevent anyone with initiative from bettering their station in life. IRS data tracking the same group of taxpayers between 1999 and 2007 showed that Americans can move from one economic group to another fairly quickly.For example, nearly 60% of taxpayers who began in the lowest income group in 1999, moved to a higher income group by 2007. Conversely, roughly 40% of taxpayers who started out in the highest income group moved to lower income groups within eight years.
Official Statistics on Inequality, the Top 1%, and Redistribution | Tax Foundation

Can you explain why these are the 5 worst places for upward mobility?

5 Worst Cities in America for Class Mobility

Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi.

Republicans like to say they do things better than us liberals but these are 3 very conservative/red/republican states.

Isn't it obvious? they are under taxed

Undertaxed.....HA! Proof that liberals believe the pathway to prosperity is through overbearing government and confiscatory taxation.
Looking at the success stories in California, Illinois and New Jersey with their budget surplus rich coffers, one need only to agree to have their respective states legislatures apply more and higher taxes. Problem solved, correct?
Spending less, reducing the size and scope of government and practicing fiscal responsibility? NAH....Can't have THAT

My post was sarcasm bro

I thought so.. The intent of my post in response to yours was in a manner of speaking, a call out. No malice intended.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The psychology of the poor means they will never be out of poverty.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The psychology of the poor means they will never be out of poverty.

I use this scenario..
Lets just sat instead of giving the less fortunate only enough each month to keep out of misery, present them with a check equal to the sum of the money given to them over a lifetime on public assistance. Could be a bunch of money. Lets say it's $250k.....I guarantee with a high degree of certainty most of the recipients would be broke or close to broke within 12 months.
Poverty manifests itself in certain people in one or more of many forms.
One, poor job skills
Two, poor impulse control.
Three substance abuse
Four,. financial irresponsibility.
Five self destructive habits.
Six, poor choice of friends/acquaintances.

 

[thereisnospoon]

While America certainly has its share of people in chronic poverty and those with vast wealth, we are an economically mobile society. There are no class or cast systems that might prevent anyone with initiative from bettering their station in life. IRS data tracking the same group of taxpayers between 1999 and 2007 showed that Americans can move from one economic group to another fairly quickly.For example, nearly 60% of taxpayers who began in the lowest income group in 1999, moved to a higher income group by 2007. Conversely, roughly 40% of taxpayers who started out in the highest income group moved to lower income groups within eight years.
Official Statistics on Inequality, the Top 1%, and Redistribution | Tax Foundation

Can you explain why these are the 5 worst places for upward mobility?

5 Worst Cities in America for Class Mobility

Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi.

Republicans like to say they do things better than us liberals but these are 3 very conservative/red/republican states.

Leave. Go where the jobs are. Don't sit on your ass and whine. Join the military. Get on with life!

Again, this is another perfect example of what Republicans are going to tell the poorly educated blue collar folk who voted for Trump when in a year or two they wonder how come they aren't doing better like Trump promised.

We could have elected Hillary and given out your advice. LOL

You don't know that. You're simply parroting a liberal doom and gloom narrative.

You mean like Republicans told you if hillary won it would be the end of our democracy? You cons sure are easily conned

I do not recall being told any such thing.
I will say this however. Hillary Clinton was essentially campaigning on the notion of four more years of Obama....To that I fiercely objected
What democracy? We do not have a democracy here. This country is a representative republic.

 

[sealybobo]

While America certainly has its share of people in chronic poverty and those with vast wealth, we are an economically mobile society. There are no class or cast systems that might prevent anyone with initiative from bettering their station in life. IRS data tracking the same group of taxpayers between 1999 and 2007 showed that Americans can move from one economic group to another fairly quickly.For example, nearly 60% of taxpayers who began in the lowest income group in 1999, moved to a higher income group by 2007. Conversely, roughly 40% of taxpayers who started out in the highest income group moved to lower income groups within eight years.
Official Statistics on Inequality, the Top 1%, and Redistribution | Tax Foundation

Can you explain why these are the 5 worst places for upward mobility?

5 Worst Cities in America for Class Mobility

Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi.

Republicans like to say they do things better than us liberals but these are 3 very conservative/red/republican states.

Leave. Go where the jobs are. Don't sit on your ass and whine. Join the military. Get on with life!

Again, this is another perfect example of what Republicans are going to tell the poorly educated blue collar folk who voted for Trump when in a year or two they wonder how come they aren't doing better like Trump promised.

We could have elected Hillary and given out your advice. LOL

If you have to wonder why you're not doing better, you have first to look at your choices.

Outstanding post!

Is he talking to the poorly educated blue collar workers that voted for trump because he promised them better jobs?

Sounds like you guys aren't going to do shit for them except give them this kind of advice. I knew it

 

[sealybobo]

The psychology of the poor means they will never be out of poverty.

I use this scenario..
Lets just sat instead of giving the less fortunate only enough each month to keep out of misery, present them with a check equal to the sum of the money given to them over a lifetime on public assistance. Could be a bunch of money. Lets say it's $250k.....I guarantee with a high degree of certainty most of the recipients would be broke or close to broke within 12 months.
Poverty manifests itself in certain people in one or more of many forms.
One, poor job skills
Two, poor impulse control.
Three substance abuse
Four,. financial irresponsibility.
Five self destructive habits.
Six, poor choice of friends/acquaintances.

We're not talking about people on public assistance. Trump promised to help the working poor. They are the ones who haven't recovered from Bush's great recession. Now that you guys won sounds like you are back to not doing shit for those people.

 

[owebo]

Can you explain why these are the 5 worst places for upward mobility?

5 Worst Cities in America for Class Mobility

Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi.

Republicans like to say they do things better than us liberals but these are 3 very conservative/red/republican states.

Leave. Go where the jobs are. Don't sit on your ass and whine. Join the military. Get on with life!

Again, this is another perfect example of what Republicans are going to tell the poorly educated blue collar folk who voted for Trump when in a year or two they wonder how come they aren't doing better like Trump promised.

We could have elected Hillary and given out your advice. LOL

If you have to wonder why you're not doing better, you have first to look at your choices.

Outstanding post!

Is he talking to the poorly educated blue collar workers that voted for trump because he promised them better jobs?

Sounds like you guys aren't going to do shit for them except give them this kind of advice. I knew it

Trump didn't offer them better jobs. Trump promised them A job......

You did shot for them....then shit on them.....

 

[sealybobo]

Leave. Go where the jobs are. Don't sit on your ass and whine. Join the military. Get on with life!

Again, this is another perfect example of what Republicans are going to tell the poorly educated blue collar folk who voted for Trump when in a year or two they wonder how come they aren't doing better like Trump promised.

We could have elected Hillary and given out your advice. LOL

If you have to wonder why you're not doing better, you have first to look at your choices.

Outstanding post!

Is he talking to the poorly educated blue collar workers that voted for trump because he promised them better jobs?

Sounds like you guys aren't going to do shit for them except give them this kind of advice. I knew it

Trump didn't offer them better jobs. Trump promised them A job......

You did shut for them....then shit on them.....

Just a job? Not good paying jobs?
They're already working fool! Are you saying all those trump supporters are unemployed? That explains why they had time to attend his rallies.

This is where you guys change your message. Now you will tell them they are responsible for themselves. You see owebo there are already jobs available but you either have to have skills or you won't be paid well. So trumps not going to do shit. I knew it

 

[owebo]

Again, this is another perfect example of what Republicans are going to tell the poorly educated blue collar folk who voted for Trump when in a year or two they wonder how come they aren't doing better like Trump promised.

We could have elected Hillary and given out your advice. LOL

If you have to wonder why you're not doing better, you have first to look at your choices.

Outstanding post!

Is he talking to the poorly educated blue collar workers that voted for trump because he promised them better jobs?

Sounds like you guys aren't going to do shit for them except give them this kind of advice. I knew it

Trump didn't offer them better jobs. Trump promised them A job......

You did shut for them....then shit on them.....

Just a job? Not good paying jobs?
They're already working fool! Are you saying all those trump supporters are unemployed? That explains why they had time to attend his rallies.

This is where you guys change your message. Now you will tell them they are responsible for themselves. You see owebo there are already jobs available but you either have to have skills or you won't be paid well. So trumps not going to do shit. I knew it

95,000,000 people beg to differ....

 

[Skull Pilot]

The Super Bowl was a classic example of inequality. One team won...the other lost. What should be done about that?

So you think life is just a game eh? Well if that's the case, the ultra wealthy done won the "Super Bowl of Life" for the past many many years.

To bad there is not more competition for them. But hell, when you own the field you play on and the umpires to, the outcome is preordained. Right?

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

 

[Skull Pilot]

Time to mandate 1,000 times law on ceo, board members and upper management compared to the lowest paid. This way corporations spend more of their profits on paying better wages to the works and expansion.

there is absolutely no guarantee that lowering some people's pay will result in other people getting paid more
besides that it's none of anyone's business what a business pays its people

 

[Skull Pilot]

How can the poor get poorer? If you don't have anything, you cant have less than anything.

With all your vast knowledge you don't think poor people can become poorer in mind and spirit? Sure they can. Hopelessness will see to that.

your mind and spirit is none of my concern

 

[Skull Pilot]

People make more money as their career progresses. If you worked a job for 8 years and weren't making more money you should probably change careers.

Or have a college or craft school affordable enough to go into a better job. Not that America allows to much of that.

there are plenty of ways to attend college

go part time and work full time
join the national guard and get in state tuition free
go to a community or state college the first 2 years then transfer to a better school

etc etc

 

[xband]

The Super Bowl was a classic example of inequality. One team won...the other lost. What should be done about that?

So you think life is just a game eh? Well if that's the case, the ultra wealthy done won the "Super Bowl of Life" for the past many many years.

To bad there is not more competition for them. But hell, when you own the field you play on and the umpires to, the outcome is preordained. Right?

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

 

[owebo]

The Super Bowl was a classic example of inequality. One team won...the other lost. What should be done about that?

So you think life is just a game eh? Well if that's the case, the ultra wealthy done won the "Super Bowl of Life" for the past many many years.

To bad there is not more competition for them. But hell, when you own the field you play on and the umpires to, the outcome is preordained. Right?

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

I have to disagree....Hillary is an idiot, and worth billions.....