The rich get richer and the poorer remain poorer?

[Wyatt earp]

The psychology of the poor means they will never be out of poverty.

I use this scenario..
Lets just sat instead of giving the less fortunate only enough each month to keep out of misery, present them with a check equal to the sum of the money given to them over a lifetime on public assistance. Could be a bunch of money. Lets say it's $250k.....I guarantee with a high degree of certainty most of the recipients would be broke or close to broke within 12 months.
Poverty manifests itself in certain people in one or more of many forms.
One, poor job skills
Two, poor impulse control.
Three substance abuse
Four,. financial irresponsibility.
Five self destructive habits.
Six, poor choice of friends/acquaintances.

We're not talking about people on public assistance. Trump promised to help the working poor. They are the ones who haven't recovered from Bush's great recession. Now that you guys won sounds like you are back to not doing shit for those people.

Trump never used those words. "Working poor"....He stated very clearly that he would enact policies that would make the country more business friendly so that business can create new jobs. Good paying jobs. He also stated there would be consequences to business that moved jobs out of the US.
Of course you heard what you wanted to hear. "Help the working poor"....That is NOT the job of government. Our new POTUS has stated many times the problems facing business and by extension those willing to work and looking to work.
Help? No. Opportunity? Absolutely.
Your idea of help is a handout. A permanent vacation at taxpayer expense.
Trump's team is offering policy that will encourage business to expand and new business to be created. And guess what those businesses wil;l need? Workers!!!! Yes. New employees.
Here's the trade off. Those willing to participate must do their part to become trained or educated. If not, they must show that they are willing to work their way up the ladder by leaning new skills on the job. There is no room for pikers.
Everyone is encouraged to participate.

So the Tweeting crappy clown's answer is a net loss of jobs and a tax break to do it?

I have an answer:


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 700 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

just a question where would people work if the MW was $23 an hour?

The entire country would look like Detroit and a UE of 85%


.

 

[danielpalos]

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

This was the BS the Dems shouted about Trump voters and it sunk Clinton. I think it is a simplistic look at a more complicated problem.

I've never heard a Dem say that.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

Nothing we do should be comparable to third world standards.

We're not the third world, and we do not aspire to be.

If what we're doing is comparable to third world standards, it should be viewed as a problem and an embarrassment.

is it time to "blame the right" for scrooging us out of the finest Republic money can buy?

Just what do you think Hillary Clinton's campaign was funded with? Play money?
Oh the hypocrisy

dude; she lost the election. i got criticized for criticizing Mr. Trump, before he got elected.

I am referring to our social problems; only lousy Capitalists with "poor capital intuition" indulge problems that can easily be solved with capital.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So you think life is just a game eh? Well if that's the case, the ultra wealthy done won the "Super Bowl of Life" for the past many many years.

To bad there is not more competition for them. But hell, when you own the field you play on and the umpires to, the outcome is preordained. Right?

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

Yes rich by third world standards.

 

[danielpalos]

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

Yes rich by third world standards.

Socialism via a bailout by daddy or Uncle Sam, makes All of the difference in the (First) World.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The psychology of the poor means they will never be out of poverty.

I use this scenario..
Lets just sat instead of giving the less fortunate only enough each month to keep out of misery, present them with a check equal to the sum of the money given to them over a lifetime on public assistance. Could be a bunch of money. Lets say it's $250k.....I guarantee with a high degree of certainty most of the recipients would be broke or close to broke within 12 months.
Poverty manifests itself in certain people in one or more of many forms.
One, poor job skills
Two, poor impulse control.
Three substance abuse
Four,. financial irresponsibility.
Five self destructive habits.
Six, poor choice of friends/acquaintances.

We're not talking about people on public assistance. Trump promised to help the working poor. They are the ones who haven't recovered from Bush's great recession. Now that you guys won sounds like you are back to not doing shit for those people.

Trump never used those words. "Working poor"....He stated very clearly that he would enact policies that would make the country more business friendly so that business can create new jobs. Good paying jobs. He also stated there would be consequences to business that moved jobs out of the US.
Of course you heard what you wanted to hear. "Help the working poor"....That is NOT the job of government. Our new POTUS has stated many times the problems facing business and by extension those willing to work and looking to work.
Help? No. Opportunity? Absolutely.
Your idea of help is a handout. A permanent vacation at taxpayer expense.
Trump's team is offering policy that will encourage business to expand and new business to be created. And guess what those businesses wil;l need? Workers!!!! Yes. New employees.
Here's the trade off. Those willing to participate must do their part to become trained or educated. If not, they must show that they are willing to work their way up the ladder by leaning new skills on the job. There is no room for pikers.
Everyone is encouraged to participate.

So the Tweeting crappy clown's answer is a net loss of jobs and a tax break to do it?

I have an answer:


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 700 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

just a question where would people work if the MW was $23 an hour?

The entire country would look like Detroit and a UE of 85%


.

And these idiots never stop to consider what a min wage of that level would do to the over all pay scale of all hourly workers.
Some will say "good".....They know not what they say.
Such manipulation of the labor market is highly inflationary

 

[danielpalos]

I use this scenario..
Lets just sat instead of giving the less fortunate only enough each month to keep out of misery, present them with a check equal to the sum of the money given to them over a lifetime on public assistance. Could be a bunch of money. Lets say it's $250k.....I guarantee with a high degree of certainty most of the recipients would be broke or close to broke within 12 months.
Poverty manifests itself in certain people in one or more of many forms.
One, poor job skills
Two, poor impulse control.
Three substance abuse
Four,. financial irresponsibility.
Five self destructive habits.
Six, poor choice of friends/acquaintances.

We're not talking about people on public assistance. Trump promised to help the working poor. They are the ones who haven't recovered from Bush's great recession. Now that you guys won sounds like you are back to not doing shit for those people.

Trump never used those words. "Working poor"....He stated very clearly that he would enact policies that would make the country more business friendly so that business can create new jobs. Good paying jobs. He also stated there would be consequences to business that moved jobs out of the US.
Of course you heard what you wanted to hear. "Help the working poor"....That is NOT the job of government. Our new POTUS has stated many times the problems facing business and by extension those willing to work and looking to work.
Help? No. Opportunity? Absolutely.
Your idea of help is a handout. A permanent vacation at taxpayer expense.
Trump's team is offering policy that will encourage business to expand and new business to be created. And guess what those businesses wil;l need? Workers!!!! Yes. New employees.
Here's the trade off. Those willing to participate must do their part to become trained or educated. If not, they must show that they are willing to work their way up the ladder by leaning new skills on the job. There is no room for pikers.
Everyone is encouraged to participate.

So the Tweeting crappy clown's answer is a net loss of jobs and a tax break to do it?

I have an answer:


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 700 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

just a question where would people work if the MW was $23 an hour?

The entire country would look like Detroit and a UE of 85%


.

And these idiots never stop to consider what a min wage of that level would do to the over all pay scale of all hourly workers.
Some will say "good".....They know not what they say.
Such manipulation of the labor market is highly inflationary

Not with supply side economics, which command economizes for inflation.

 

[thereisnospoon]

We're not talking about people on public assistance. Trump promised to help the working poor. They are the ones who haven't recovered from Bush's great recession. Now that you guys won sounds like you are back to not doing shit for those people.

Trump never used those words. "Working poor"....He stated very clearly that he would enact policies that would make the country more business friendly so that business can create new jobs. Good paying jobs. He also stated there would be consequences to business that moved jobs out of the US.
Of course you heard what you wanted to hear. "Help the working poor"....That is NOT the job of government. Our new POTUS has stated many times the problems facing business and by extension those willing to work and looking to work.
Help? No. Opportunity? Absolutely.
Your idea of help is a handout. A permanent vacation at taxpayer expense.
Trump's team is offering policy that will encourage business to expand and new business to be created. And guess what those businesses wil;l need? Workers!!!! Yes. New employees.
Here's the trade off. Those willing to participate must do their part to become trained or educated. If not, they must show that they are willing to work their way up the ladder by leaning new skills on the job. There is no room for pikers.
Everyone is encouraged to participate.

So the Tweeting crappy clown's answer is a net loss of jobs and a tax break to do it?

I have an answer:


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 700 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

just a question where would people work if the MW was $23 an hour?

The entire country would look like Detroit and a UE of 85%


.

And these idiots never stop to consider what a min wage of that level would do to the over all pay scale of all hourly workers.
Some will say "good".....They know not what they say.
Such manipulation of the labor market is highly inflationary

Not with supply side economics, which command economizes for inflation.

Supply side is the way to go. It does the best for the most.

 

[danielpalos]

Trump never used those words. "Working poor"....He stated very clearly that he would enact policies that would make the country more business friendly so that business can create new jobs. Good paying jobs. He also stated there would be consequences to business that moved jobs out of the US.
Of course you heard what you wanted to hear. "Help the working poor"....That is NOT the job of government. Our new POTUS has stated many times the problems facing business and by extension those willing to work and looking to work.
Help? No. Opportunity? Absolutely.
Your idea of help is a handout. A permanent vacation at taxpayer expense.
Trump's team is offering policy that will encourage business to expand and new business to be created. And guess what those businesses wil;l need? Workers!!!! Yes. New employees.
Here's the trade off. Those willing to participate must do their part to become trained or educated. If not, they must show that they are willing to work their way up the ladder by leaning new skills on the job. There is no room for pikers.
Everyone is encouraged to participate.

So the Tweeting crappy clown's answer is a net loss of jobs and a tax break to do it?

I have an answer:


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 700 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

just a question where would people work if the MW was $23 an hour?

The entire country would look like Detroit and a UE of 85%


.

And these idiots never stop to consider what a min wage of that level would do to the over all pay scale of all hourly workers.
Some will say "good".....They know not what they say.
Such manipulation of the labor market is highly inflationary

Not with supply side economics, which command economizes for inflation.

Supply side is the way to go. It does the best for the most.

supply side economics should be supplying us with better governance at lower cost, not trickle down.

 

[TheDude]

I appreciate capitalism, but unfortunately, there is an issue with concentration of wealth. Seriously though, they have to be printing cash. Plus consider our standard of survival. Big screen TVs, cell phones, hot showers and not hungry......Unless you're homeless, which is generally by your design, then you probably have all these things or choose not to.

We are at the mercy of some unethical operations. PRIME example is Walmart. The Walton's are the world's wealthiest family. The top three are worth 100 billion alone. Do the math on that - it's 1/200th the national debt. Meanwhile, they pay retail shit, and in return you get shit service and morale sucks. Heck, they hardly heat their buildings. People may suggest if wages were raised in exchange for service they'd have to raise prices, but I think I'll call BS. Good service and comfort brings cash, and reflect back on they're worth over 100 billion. It's just a money grab, poor business model and it's reflected on society.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Time to mandate 1,000 times law on ceo, board members and upper management compared to the lowest paid. This way corporations spend more of their profits on paying better wages to the works and expansion.

there is absolutely no guarantee that lowering some people's pay will result in other people getting paid more
besides that it's none of anyone's business what a business pays its people

Then stop complaining about taxes.

The rich are not getting poorer because they pay taxes.

what do taxes have to do with CEO pay?

Oh yeah not a fucking thing

 

[Skull Pilot]

So you think life is just a game eh? Well if that's the case, the ultra wealthy done won the "Super Bowl of Life" for the past many many years.

To bad there is not more competition for them. But hell, when you own the field you play on and the umpires to, the outcome is preordained. Right?

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

we have the richest "poor " people in the world and you still complain

 

[Skull Pilot]

The Super Bowl was a classic example of inequality. One team won...the other lost. What should be done about that?

So you think life is just a game eh? Well if that's the case, the ultra wealthy done won the "Super Bowl of Life" for the past many many years.

To bad there is not more competition for them. But hell, when you own the field you play on and the umpires to, the outcome is preordained. Right?

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

This was the BS the Dems shouted about Trump voters and it sunk Clinton. I think it is a simplistic look at a more complicated problem.

I've never heard a Dem say that.

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

Nothing we do should be comparable to third world standards.

We're not the third world, and we do not aspire to be.

If what we're doing is comparable to third world standards, it should be viewed as a problem and an embarrassment.

have you ever actually been to a 3rd world country?

I have and what we call poverty is fucking opulence in comparison to 3rd world poverty

 

[Skull Pilot]

The psychology of the poor means they will never be out of poverty.

I use this scenario..
Lets just sat instead of giving the less fortunate only enough each month to keep out of misery, present them with a check equal to the sum of the money given to them over a lifetime on public assistance. Could be a bunch of money. Lets say it's $250k.....I guarantee with a high degree of certainty most of the recipients would be broke or close to broke within 12 months.
Poverty manifests itself in certain people in one or more of many forms.
One, poor job skills
Two, poor impulse control.
Three substance abuse
Four,. financial irresponsibility.
Five self destructive habits.
Six, poor choice of friends/acquaintances.

We're not talking about people on public assistance. Trump promised to help the working poor. They are the ones who haven't recovered from Bush's great recession. Now that you guys won sounds like you are back to not doing shit for those people.

Trump never used those words. "Working poor"....He stated very clearly that he would enact policies that would make the country more business friendly so that business can create new jobs. Good paying jobs. He also stated there would be consequences to business that moved jobs out of the US.
Of course you heard what you wanted to hear. "Help the working poor"....That is NOT the job of government. Our new POTUS has stated many times the problems facing business and by extension those willing to work and looking to work.
Help? No. Opportunity? Absolutely.
Your idea of help is a handout. A permanent vacation at taxpayer expense.
Trump's team is offering policy that will encourage business to expand and new business to be created. And guess what those businesses wil;l need? Workers!!!! Yes. New employees.
Here's the trade off. Those willing to participate must do their part to become trained or educated. If not, they must show that they are willing to work their way up the ladder by leaning new skills on the job. There is no room for pikers.
Everyone is encouraged to participate.

So the Tweeting crappy clown's answer is a net loss of jobs and a tax break to do it?

I have an answer:


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 700 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

you don't tax revenue you idiot because revenue is not income

The psychology of the poor means they will never be out of poverty.

I use this scenario..
Lets just sat instead of giving the less fortunate only enough each month to keep out of misery, present them with a check equal to the sum of the money given to them over a lifetime on public assistance. Could be a bunch of money. Lets say it's $250k.....I guarantee with a high degree of certainty most of the recipients would be broke or close to broke within 12 months.
Poverty manifests itself in certain people in one or more of many forms.
One, poor job skills
Two, poor impulse control.
Three substance abuse
Four,. financial irresponsibility.
Five self destructive habits.
Six, poor choice of friends/acquaintances.

We're not talking about people on public assistance. Trump promised to help the working poor. They are the ones who haven't recovered from Bush's great recession. Now that you guys won sounds like you are back to not doing shit for those people.

Trump never used those words. "Working poor"....He stated very clearly that he would enact policies that would make the country more business friendly so that business can create new jobs. Good paying jobs. He also stated there would be consequences to business that moved jobs out of the US.
Of course you heard what you wanted to hear. "Help the working poor"....That is NOT the job of government. Our new POTUS has stated many times the problems facing business and by extension those willing to work and looking to work.
Help? No. Opportunity? Absolutely.
Your idea of help is a handout. A permanent vacation at taxpayer expense.
Trump's team is offering policy that will encourage business to expand and new business to be created. And guess what those businesses wil;l need? Workers!!!! Yes. New employees.
Here's the trade off. Those willing to participate must do their part to become trained or educated. If not, they must show that they are willing to work their way up the ladder by leaning new skills on the job. There is no room for pikers.
Everyone is encouraged to participate.

So the Tweeting crappy clown's answer is a net loss of jobs and a tax break to do it?

I have an answer:


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 700 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

and this IDIOT wants us to think he owns 5 multi million dollar businesses

 

[danielpalos]

Time to mandate 1,000 times law on ceo, board members and upper management compared to the lowest paid. This way corporations spend more of their profits on paying better wages to the works and expansion.

there is absolutely no guarantee that lowering some people's pay will result in other people getting paid more
besides that it's none of anyone's business what a business pays its people

Then stop complaining about taxes.

The rich are not getting poorer because they pay taxes.

what do taxes have to do with CEO pay?

Oh yeah not a fucking thing

how much do the rich actually pay in income tax?

 

[danielpalos]

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

we have the richest "poor " people in the world and you still complain

not me; only the right wing whines about taxes, regulations, and minimum wages.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Time to mandate 1,000 times law on ceo, board members and upper management compared to the lowest paid. This way corporations spend more of their profits on paying better wages to the works and expansion.

there is absolutely no guarantee that lowering some people's pay will result in other people getting paid more
besides that it's none of anyone's business what a business pays its people

Then stop complaining about taxes.

The rich are not getting poorer because they pay taxes.

what do taxes have to do with CEO pay?

Oh yeah not a fucking thing

how much do the rich actually pay in income tax?

The top 10% of earners pay more than the bottom 90% of earners

 

[danielpalos]

So you think life is just a game eh? Well if that's the case, the ultra wealthy done won the "Super Bowl of Life" for the past many many years.

To bad there is not more competition for them. But hell, when you own the field you play on and the umpires to, the outcome is preordained. Right?

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

This was the BS the Dems shouted about Trump voters and it sunk Clinton. I think it is a simplistic look at a more complicated problem.

I've never heard a Dem say that.

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

Nothing we do should be comparable to third world standards.

We're not the third world, and we do not aspire to be.

If what we're doing is comparable to third world standards, it should be viewed as a problem and an embarrassment.

have you ever actually been to a 3rd world country?

I have and what we call poverty is fucking opulence in comparison to 3rd world poverty

It is why some on the left are advocating for the socialism of improving our Standard of living, by improving our minimum wage and implementing unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

we have the richest "poor " people in the world and you still complain

not me; only the right wing whines about taxes, regulations, and minimum wages.

oh so you're not complaining?

You want to be paid if you choose not to work
you want your tuition to be paid by other people
you still live with mommy because you have no skills and canlt support yourself so you want everyone else who works to support you

that sure sounds like complaining to me

 

[Skull Pilot]

so tell me how many rich guys stopped you from increasing your net worth in your lifetime?

None?

Imagine that seems like the only one stopping you from being wealthier is you

Poor people back, white and brown are on the low end of the intelligence bell curve and rich people are on the high end. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.

This was the BS the Dems shouted about Trump voters and it sunk Clinton. I think it is a simplistic look at a more complicated problem.

I've never heard a Dem say that.

nothing but class warfare?

all the poor really need, is a loan from daddy.

As we know, there is no amount of money in the world that can lift the poor out of poverty. Poor people have won lotteries of millions only to be penniless in a year.

not true at all; our over nine trillion dollars and counting, War on Poverty is enabling our poor to be relatively rich, by true Third World, capital Standards; the right wing complains about our poor not being poor enough, all the time.

We have the best form of socialism in the Entire World; our rich can keep their multimillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, and our poor can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

If we cannot rely on a bailout from daddy; we should be able to rely on a bailout from Uncle Sam.

Nothing we do should be comparable to third world standards.

We're not the third world, and we do not aspire to be.

If what we're doing is comparable to third world standards, it should be viewed as a problem and an embarrassment.

have you ever actually been to a 3rd world country?

I have and what we call poverty is fucking opulence in comparison to 3rd world poverty

It is why some on the left are advocating for the socialism of improving our Standard of living, by improving our minimum wage and implementing unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed.

socialism doesn't work

 

[danielpalos]

Time to mandate 1,000 times law on ceo, board members and upper management compared to the lowest paid. This way corporations spend more of their profits on paying better wages to the works and expansion.

there is absolutely no guarantee that lowering some people's pay will result in other people getting paid more
besides that it's none of anyone's business what a business pays its people

Then stop complaining about taxes.

The rich are not getting poorer because they pay taxes.

what do taxes have to do with CEO pay?

Oh yeah not a fucking thing

how much do the rich actually pay in income tax?

The top 10% of earners pay more than the bottom 90% of earners

So what; who cares what Firms pay in income taxes.