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But if he had gotten Baptized he COULD be a Mormon cannibal?
Check!
BTW Froggy. Id still like to know what parts of Book of Mormon you disagree with. What parts you do agree with. And what parts you find so offensive.
I didnt know we started baptizing frogs. I guess there is always something new to learn.
Like a frog can't be a cannibal unless he's baptized first?
Come on.
No. he just cant be mormon till he's baptized
BTW Froggy. Id still like to know what parts of Book of Mormon you disagree with. What parts you do agree with. And what parts you find so offensive.
i've been telling you its copied partly from the KJV by a false prophet. And apparently he has deceived many with it, but don't worry there's a special place for those like him in hell.
there you go, just like joe twisting what one said to suit you goal of misleading others i didn't say i disagreed with the kj bible.BTW Froggy. Id still like to know what parts of Book of Mormon you disagree with. What parts you do agree with. And what parts you find so offensive.
i've been telling you its copied partly from the KJV by a false prophet. And apparently he has deceived many with it, but don't worry there's a special place for those like him in hell.
So you disagree with doctrine found in the KJV? What doctrine? what exactly is false about it? do you know? have you ever read the Book?
there you go, just like joe twisting what one said to suit you goal of misleading others i didn't say i disagreed with the kj bible.
there you go, just like joe twisting what one said to suit you goal of misleading others i didn't say i disagreed with the kj bible.
I asked you what you disagreed with in the Book of Mormon. You keep talking about the KJV (which i might add isnt in the Book of Mormon) as your answer. How am I supposed to conclude anything else when that's the only answer you have for my question?
What in the Book of Mormon did Joseph lie about? This shouldnt be a tough question for you. I mean you wouldn't oppose something you have no knowledge of would you?
Are you in denial or what? Just reading Joey testimony, the things he talk about happen to him is so close in comparison with kj bible, there's no doubt it was reworded from the kj bible by him in order to deceive.
5 Some time in the second year after our removal to Manchester, there was in the place where we lived an unusual excitement on the subject of religion. It commenced with the Methodists, but soon became general among all the sects in that region of country. Indeed, the whole district of country seemed affected by it, and great multitudes united themselves to the different religious parties, which created no small stir and division amongst the people, some crying, Lo, here! and others, Lo, there! Some were contending for the Methodist faith, some for the Presbyterian, and some for the Baptist.
6 For, notwithstanding the great love which the converts to these different faiths expressed at the time of their conversion, and the great zeal manifested by the respective clergy, who were active in getting up and promoting this extraordinary scene of religious feeling, in order to have everybody converted, as they were pleased to call it, let them join what sect they pleased; yet when the converts began to file off, some to one party and some to another, it was seen that the seemingly good feelings of both the priests and the converts were more pretended than real; for a scene of great confusion and bad feeling ensuedpriest contending against priest, and convert against convert; so that all their good feelings one for another, if they ever had any, were entirely lost in a strife of words and a contest about opinions.
7 I was at this time in my fifteenth year. My fathers family was proselyted to the Presbyterian faith, and four of them joined that church, namely, my mother, Lucy; my brothers Hyrum and Samuel Harrison; and my sister Sophronia.
8 During this time of great excitement my mind was called up to serious reflection and great uneasiness; but though my feelings were deep and often poignant, still I kept myself aloof from all these parties, though I attended their several meetings as often as occasion would permit. In process of time my mind became somewhat partial to the Methodist sect, and I felt some desire to be united with them; but so great were the confusion and strife among the different denominations, that it was impossible for a person young as I was, and so unacquainted with men and things, to come to any certain conclusion who was right and who was wrong.
9 My mind at times was greatly excited, the cry and tumult were so great and incessant. The Presbyterians were most decided against the Baptists and Methodists, and used all the powers of both reason and sophistry to prove their errors, or, at least, to make the people think they were in error. On the other hand, the Baptists and Methodists in their turn were equally zealous in endeavoring to establish their own tenets and disprove all others.
10 In the midst of this war of words and tumult of opinions, I often said to myself: What is to be done? Who of all these parties are right; or, are they all wrong together? If any one of them be right, which is it, and how shall I know it?
11 While I was laboring under the extreme difficulties caused by the contests of these parties of religionists, I was one day reading the Epistle of James, first chapter and fifth verse, which reads: If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
12 Never did any passage of scripture come with more power to the heart of man than this did at this time to mine. It seemed to enter with great force into every feeling of my heart. I reflected on it again and again, knowing that if any person needed wisdom from God, I did; for how to act I did not know, and unless I could get more wisdom than I then had, I would never know; for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible.
13 At length I came to the conclusion that I must either remain in darkness and confusion, or else I must do as James directs, that is, ask of God. I at length came to the determination to ask of God, concluding that if he gave wisdom to them that lacked wisdom, and would give liberally, and not upbraid, I might venture.
14 So, in accordance with this, my determination to ask of God, I retired to the woods to make the attempt. It was on the morning of a beautiful, clear day, early in the spring of eighteen hundred and twenty. It was the first time in my life that I had made such an attempt, for amidst all my anxieties I had never as yet made the attempt to pray vocally.
15 After I had retired to the place where I had previously designed to go, having looked around me, and finding myself alone, I kneeled down and began to offer up the desires of my heart to God. I had scarcely done so, when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so that I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction.
16 But, exerting all my powers to call upon God to deliver me out of the power of this enemy which had seized upon me, and at the very moment when I was ready to sink into despair and abandon myself to destructionnot to an imaginary ruin, but to the power of some actual being from the unseen world, who had such marvelous power as I had never before felt in any beingjust at this moment of great alarm, I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me.
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the otherThis is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. (Joseph Smith- Hist. 1: 5-20)
19 And while we meditated upon these things, the Lord touched the eyes of our understandings and they were opened, and the glory of the Lord shone round about.
20 And we beheld the glory of the Son, on the right hand of the Father, and received of his fulness;
21 And saw the holy angels, and them who are sanctified before his throne, worshiping God, and the Lamb, who worship him forever and ever.
22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!
23 For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father
24 That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God. (D&C 76:19-24)
The book is fiction, written by a false prophet for his own glory.Are you in denial or what? Just reading Joey testimony, the things he talk about happen to him is so close in comparison with kj bible, there's no doubt it was reworded from the kj bible by him in order to deceive.
Ive read Josephs testimony many times. There is nothing in it at all comparable to the KJV. Except where it directly quotes or paraphrases verses. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with the Book of Mormon. I can even post Joseph's testimony, or atleast a number of different ones he made:
Or how about this testimony that Joseph and Sydney wrote of the vision they saw:
(jonh 3:16)19 And while we meditated upon these things, the Lord touched the eyes of our understandings and they were opened, and the glory of the Lord shone round about.
20 And we beheld the glory of the Son, on the right hand of the Father, and received of his fulness;
21 And saw the holy angels, and them who are sanctified before his throne, worshiping God, and the Lamb, who worship him forever and ever.
(Matthew 26:64 "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say ...Jesus saith to him: Thou hast said it. Nevertheless I say to you, hereafter you shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of the power of God,)
22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!
23 For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—
24 That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God. (D&C 76:19-24)
Again, where do you find the KJV in that testimony?
Funny thing is, neither of these testimonies are in the Book of Mormon. So you really havent even told me what you find so offensive that is taught in the Book of Mormon yet.
The book is fiction, written by a false prophet for his own glory.
It must be bad for you, to have some false religion take away your sense of reasoning. I i put answers under what you wrote.
Rewritten, thats when you take someone writings and change it around to make it your own. The things you quoted were taken from the bible by joey, if you can't see the similarity you really need help.The book is fiction, written by a false prophet for his own glory.
It must be bad for you, to have some false religion take away your sense of reasoning. I i put answers under what you wrote.
If the book was fiction then why cant you tell me a single thing that is incorrect? It shouldnt be this difficult should it?
Oh, I have no clue why you quoted those verses. They didnt appear anywhere in the text I just quoted. I dont see how verses that dont even appear in paraphrase in my quotes proves that my quotes are just mere copies of the KJV.
And more to the point, if you think the Book of Mormon is nothing but KJV verses, how on earth can you believe its false if you believe the Bible to be true?
Rewritten, thats when you take someone writings and change it around to make it your own. The things you quoted were taken from the bible by joey, if you can't see the similarity you really need help.
Rewritten, thats when you take someone writings and change it around to make it your own. The things you quoted were taken from the bible by joey, if you can't see the similarity you really need help.
You do to realize you are copying something just by teaching the same principles dont you? And Joseph didnt write the Book.
Also, how can the Book of Mormon be false if its just the Bible written different?
Its rewritten to a lie. Its not true anymore when you take the truth and turn it into a lie, and yes joey did write it
find me a truth in it that didn't originate from the bible. false witnesses will use the scripture to lure you from the truth.Its rewritten to a lie. Its not true anymore when you take the truth and turn it into a lie, and yes joey did write it
You know, trying to get you to answer a question is like pulling teeth. It's extremely painful.
Why cant you provide a single lie? Ive been asking nicely for three days. I'm not asking for much. Find me a lie you've found in the Book of Mormon and tell me what it is and why it's a lie. If the Book is such a fraud, it shouldnt be tough for you.
And so you know, simply repeating its a lie or you're being decieved is not answering the question. I don't care if you incorrectly presume its simply the KJV rewritten. Just give me a lie. Give me some sort of reference. One lie. That's all I want you to do.
find me a truth in it that didn't originate from the bible. false witnesses will use the scripture to lure you from the truth.
Happy Thanksgiving
to Mormons, cannibals, frogs and everyone else in America!
Consider this a Thanksgiving Cannibal Bump!
Joey's word keeps the blinders on the mormons, your taught to hear only the book of mormon. So theres no record of jesus visiting anyone after his his ascending to heaven until joe, how strange.find me a truth in it that didn't originate from the bible. false witnesses will use the scripture to lure you from the truth.
Since you have only asked for one, ill give you only one: Christ visiting other disciples throughout the world after His resurrection.
I cant help but notice you cant seem to produce a lie. In fact, your objections are simply those that make the Book of Mormon more credible. After all, why on earth would a new volume of scripture revealed by God teach another Gospel than the Bible teaches. Of course you are going to find many of the same principles there. If you found opposing principles, you could easily dismiss one the other.
I would ask you to stop falsely witnessing. I dont think you intend to. You do so out of ignorance, but if you want to have a discussion on this topic. Please read the Book of Mormon first, so we can have a good discussion on it.
Oh and I hope you have a fabulously happy Thanksgiving.
