The Truth about Mormons

Mormon Word Association

  • Friendly

    Votes: 74 29.7%
  • Bigoted

    Votes: 25 10.0%
  • Crazy

    Votes: 105 42.2%
  • Christian

    Votes: 45 18.1%

  • Total voters
    249
sounds more to me he didnt want anyone printing the truth of him.

How so?

The newspaper print something bad about you, and then you go and blow up the press stamping them out for good.

It wasn't about what they printed about him as much as the mob violence they were calling for. First it is illegal to print lies about people. It's called libel. Second it is illegal to incite violence by calling for the murder of an individual or group. Both of these the "Expositor" did.
 

The newspaper print something bad about you, and then you go and blow up the press stamping them out for good.

It wasn't about what they printed about him as much as the mob violence they were calling for. First it is illegal to print lies about people. It's called libel. Second it is illegal to incite violence by calling for the murder of an individual or group. Both of these the "Expositor" did.

the ones printing it use to be his buddy i think they might have knew his secrets well.
 
Froggy, your illiteracy is amazing. English can't possibly by your first language can it? I'll give you a little bit of a break if that's true.
 
The newspaper print something bad about you, and then you go and blow up the press stamping them out for good.

It wasn't about what they printed about him as much as the mob violence they were calling for. First it is illegal to print lies about people. It's called libel. Second it is illegal to incite violence by calling for the murder of an individual or group. Both of these the "Expositor" did.

the ones printing it use to be his buddy i think they might have knew his secrets well.

Similar to Jesus' apostle Judas, right?
 
In sum, I find little here to suggest that Joseph Smith was gifted with any unusual prophetic insight here, although with much of this prophecy in the "yet fulfilled" category it is not possible to be categorically too harsh without compromising certain orthodox prophetic positions. The few points that are fulfilled with certainty would be easily drawn from the politics and society of the day.

Course you dont. Accurately predicting future events is hardly evidence of a prophetic calling. I suppose healing the sick isnt either. Teaching legitimate Christian doctrine lost for centuries probably doesnt count in your book either.

But since you think that Josephs predictions didnt take much insight, perhaps you could tell me where the next major global war will begin and what the consequences of that war will be. After all, it shouldnt be tough. In fact, since you claim to be so close to God, you should ask Him and do even better than Joseph. Im eagerly waiting.
If i had lived my life as a con, like joe i'd tell you.

In other words, you cant.
 
wow, three put downs in one night, how very kind of you.

Well I don't know that I'm really TRYING to put you down as much as I'm trying to help you understand your weaknesses. You are just stubborn on top of ignorant. You need to help yourself out by learning knowledge. Similar to what Solomon said in his proverbs.
 
It wasn't about what they printed about him as much as the mob violence they were calling for. First it is illegal to print lies about people. It's called libel. Second it is illegal to incite violence by calling for the murder of an individual or group. Both of these the "Expositor" did.

the ones printing it use to be his buddy i think they might have knew his secrets well.

Similar to Jesus' apostle Judas, right?

so you saying judas was telling the TRUTH?
 
wow, three put downs in one night, how very kind of you.

Well I don't know that I'm really TRYING to put you down as much as I'm trying to help you understand your weaknesses. You are just stubborn on top of ignorant. You need to help yourself out by learning knowledge. Similar to what Solomon said in his proverbs.

Sound like joes lies sunk in you and ava deep. And what they say about mormons thinking their so much more superior than non mormon is true, much like white SUPREMUS are.Well that attitude just shows your not living gods way. Sort of like the devil in an angel uniform. Your quote under you name should read "I wish i were that guy".
 
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Course you dont. Accurately predicting future events is hardly evidence of a prophetic calling. I suppose healing the sick isnt either. Teaching legitimate Christian doctrine lost for centuries probably doesnt count in your book either.

But since you think that Josephs predictions didnt take much insight, perhaps you could tell me where the next major global war will begin and what the consequences of that war will be. After all, it shouldnt be tough. In fact, since you claim to be so close to God, you should ask Him and do even better than Joseph. Im eagerly waiting.
If i had lived my life as a con, like joe i'd tell you.

In other words, you cant.
I'm not the only one that knew ioe was a wacko. If you were allow to look at recorded history you'd find the truth. oh, but wait you only allowed to search in the fairytale book of joe, how shallow.
 
I'm not the only one that knew ioe was a wacko. If you were allow to look at recorded history you'd find the truth. oh, but wait you only allowed to search in the fairytale book of joe, how shallow.

Wacko huh? What did he do or say that was wacko?
 
wow, three put downs in one night, how very kind of you.

Well I don't know that I'm really TRYING to put you down as much as I'm trying to help you understand your weaknesses. You are just stubborn on top of ignorant. You need to help yourself out by learning knowledge. Similar to what Solomon said in his proverbs.

Sound like joes lies sunk in you and ava deep. And what they say about mormons thinking their so much more superior than non mormon is true, much like white SUPREMUS are.Well that attitude just shows your not living gods way. Sort of like the devil in an angel uniform. Your quote under you name should read "I wish i were that guy".

You continue to amaze me. But I'd like to change gears a little. I'm just going to ask you questions from now on.

First: Who or what is God to you?
 
If i had lived my life as a con, like joe i'd tell you.

In other words, you cant.
I'm not the only one that knew ioe was a wacko. If you were allow to look at recorded history you'd find the truth. oh, but wait you only allowed to search in the fairytale book of joe, how shallow.

How do you really KNOW Joseph Smith was "wacko"? What proof do you have aside from your accusations and opinions?
 
In other words, you cant.
I'm not the only one that knew ioe was a wacko. If you were allow to look at recorded history you'd find the truth. oh, but wait you only allowed to search in the fairytale book of joe, how shallow.

How do you really KNOW Joseph Smith was "wacko"? What proof do you have aside from your accusations and opinions?

I've showed you stories from history. read them.just to show how he was, he got a bunch to go west with him to the land of milk and honey, so he said, but the truth was misery and starvation. Then he took their money, went back east and left them there to starve.
 
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In sum, I find little here to suggest that Joseph Smith was gifted with any unusual prophetic insight here, although with much of this prophecy in the "yet fulfilled" category it is not possible to be categorically too harsh without compromising certain orthodox prophetic positions. The few points that are fulfilled with certainty would be easily drawn from the politics and society of the day.

Course you dont. Accurately predicting future events is hardly evidence of a prophetic calling. I suppose healing the sick isnt either. Teaching legitimate Christian doctrine lost for centuries probably doesnt count in your book either.

But since you think that Josephs predictions didnt take much insight, perhaps you could tell me where the next major global war will begin and what the consequences of that war will be. After all, it shouldnt be tough. In fact, since you claim to be so close to God, you should ask Him and do even better than Joseph. Im eagerly waiting.

James McPherson in Battle Cry of Freedom offers a summary of conditions prior to the Civil War that contributed to it and exacerbated tensions.( Even prior to Smith's prophecy, it would not have been difficult to foresee a war coming. McPherson notes that there were a number of expected dividing lines as the country grew in the period from 1800-1850 (rich/poor, Catholic/Protestant, rural/urban), but the "greatest danger to American survival" at this stage was the question of slavery. Why? Because slavery was associated with competing ideals that just happened to also have geographic associations.) The institution was so contrary to what he argued were desirable values that he predicted a conflict that would result in the destruction of slavery. And Mormons might consider that one reason why Joseph Smith and the Saints were driven out of their locales in Missouri, in 1838-9, was because they were suspected of being favorable to abolition of slavery. South Carolina had advocated the doctrine of "nullification," arguing that a state could nullify federal laws or taxes that they ruled to be unconstitutional. If there was federal resistance, then South Carolina said they could leave the Union. These were all facts that smith knew, do the math. Read this this is where he got his idea for his so called prophacy.any one could have predictedsomething close knowing all of this.
 
I'm not the only one that knew ioe was a wacko. If you were allow to look at recorded history you'd find the truth. oh, but wait you only allowed to search in the fairytale book of joe, how shallow.

How do you really KNOW Joseph Smith was "wacko"? What proof do you have aside from your accusations and opinions?

I've showed you stories from history. read them.just to show how he was he got a bunch to go west with him to the land of milk and honey, so he said but the truth was misery and starvation. Then he took their money, went back east and left them there to starve.

Did you really show me stories from history or did you just fail to realize that Joseph Smith never went west with the group and therefore never went back east with any money and in fact died before the trip happened?
 
so you saying judas was telling the TRUTH?

My only point was that innocent people can have their friends turn to enemies, through no fault of their own.

Some one being in jail as much as joe was, cant be innocent.

So you consider Paul one of the worst criminals of all time then? Perhaps Daniel should have deserved to be eaten by Lions? All the apostles? All the christian gladiators deserved their fate as well I suppose according to you?
 
You act as if everyone in the world at the time is documented in that history. I think thats a rather unreachable standard.

Nephi never claimed to be Jehovah, so I have no clue where you got that. Perhaps you could cite a verse you're referring to?

And there is quite a good reason they werent mentioned in that history. They left. How on earth could history record people who were no longer there?

you can't search for truth in a book of lies you have to search in the history of the time, according to nephis tale, he lived in several different life times at once. theyclaim to be of the wealthy, if so they would have been noted for the time they were there, before they sailed the magic dragon.

So now you are saying because they were wealthy, they should have been recorded in the Bible? What rubbish! What utter nonsensical poppycock! By jove you are amazing. Where is the logic? Where is the honesty? Magic Dragon? Please give me some more. You amuse me.
I said the history of the time they live, i never said bible, am i talking to brainwashed robots or people?
 

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