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Get off my phone! (This was done after becoming a mormon of course, so your post makes no sense.)
Pinhead.
I was unaware that being mormon means you have to let annoying people on speak on your talkshow.
Why were these gold plates, never made available to be checked for authenticity
And exactly how would you authenticate them, pray tell?
Why were these gold plates, never made available to be checked for authenticity
And exactly how would you authenticate them, pray tell?
Why were these gold plates, never made available to be checked for authenticity
And exactly how would you authenticate them, pray tell?
how about the age of them.
Why were these gold plates, never made available to be checked for authenticity
And exactly how would you authenticate them, pray tell?
how about the age of them.
"I post drunk." - Autozona
And exactly how would you authenticate them, pray tell?
how about the age of them.
Can you do that with metal?
how about the age of them.
Can you do that with metal?
The way the age of a metal artifact is determined is by carefully excavating it and then determining at what level it was buried. The age of the other artifacts, bones, and so on at the same level would then determine the age of the metal artifact.
Were there any other items found with the plates? If any of them still exist, if they were made of any carbon compound, then it would be possible to date the plates. If the plates were found all by themselves, then it would lead a researcher to wonder why that is. Usually, a find is not just one object.
Thank you for dropping in. As long as you don't leave droppings with you.This is a very verbose / high-end discussion. I'd like to do a fly-by and get the "Mormanism for Dummies" version.
You're basically asking what the difference is between Mormonism and Catholicism. I will sum up.1. What would the Mormon theologians at BYU differ with the theologians at Notre Dame and SMU on? (main bullet points)
If the dems try to attack Romney on religious grounds they will be shooting themselves down in 2012. It will make them look very silly because people will get to the bottom of the issue and Mitt will destroy Obama in a debate.2. What would the dems use in 2012 against Mitt Romney? (Any controversial or politically incorrect issues, "special panties" being one obvious one)
3. Do Mormons believe in the "Rapture"?
the trouble with mormons are they believe everything joe wrote in the book of mormon, but believe only parts of what the apostals who were with jesus wrote.
At what point will you learn knowledge? At what point will you learn to comprehend what someone says back to you. We answer a question directly as directly could be and you look at the sun at noonday and say it's not shining.
Why do you have to
As I said earlier, he is just playing a juvenile "gotcha" game, and isn't really interested in what anyone else has to say.
He should simply be ignored, if at all possible.
At what point will you learn knowledge? At what point will you learn to comprehend what someone says back to you. We answer a question directly as directly could be and you look at the sun at noonday and say it's not shining.
Why do you have to
As I said earlier, he is just playing a juvenile "gotcha" game, and isn't really interested in what anyone else has to say.
He should simply be ignored, if at all possible.
Disregard the book of joe, and praise god not joe.
Why were these gold plates, never made available to be checked for authenticity
In case you all forgot, Glenn Beck is a mormon. Nuff said.
Why were these gold plates, never made available to be checked for authenticity
And exactly how would you authenticate them, pray tell?
Why were these gold plates, never made available to be checked for authenticity
And exactly how would you authenticate them, pray tell?
how about the age of them.
how about the age of them.
Can you do that with metal?
The way the age of a metal artifact is determined is by carefully excavating it and then determining at what level it was buried. The age of the other artifacts, bones, and so on at the same level would then determine the age of the metal artifact.
Were there any other items found with the plates? If any of them still exist, if they were made of any carbon compound, then it would be possible to date the plates. If the plates were found all by themselves, then it would lead a researcher to wonder why that is. Usually, a find is not just one object.
Can you do that with metal?
The way the age of a metal artifact is determined is by carefully excavating it and then determining at what level it was buried. The age of the other artifacts, bones, and so on at the same level would then determine the age of the metal artifact.
Were there any other items found with the plates? If any of them still exist, if they were made of any carbon compound, then it would be possible to date the plates. If the plates were found all by themselves, then it would lead a researcher to wonder why that is. Usually, a find is not just one object.
That's a great point. Joseph described the find thus:
1. The artifacts were contained in a box of "some kind of cement." This box was covered by a large stone with rounded edges which were partially buried by earth and leaves. The stone had to be pried off the box with a large fallen tree branch by wedging it under.
2. Inside the "cement" box there were several items. There were the plates themselves and "other things" with them. Two stones "laid crossways" at the bottom of the box. "on these rested the plates and other things." They were covered by a thin type of linen cloth which was very fragile at this point. There were two clear "stones fastened to silver bows" and "attached to a breastplate". These were the famous Urim and Thumim seer stones through which Joseph looked at the plates to get a translation of said plates.
3. There was also a sword with a precious steel blade and a pure gold hilt which is the original sword of Laban spoken of by Nephi and later passed down from general to general as a token of leadership. A very interesting piece to be sure.
The way the age of a metal artifact is determined is by carefully excavating it and then determining at what level it was buried. The age of the other artifacts, bones, and so on at the same level would then determine the age of the metal artifact.
Were there any other items found with the plates? If any of them still exist, if they were made of any carbon compound, then it would be possible to date the plates. If the plates were found all by themselves, then it would lead a researcher to wonder why that is. Usually, a find is not just one object.
That's a great point. Joseph described the find thus:
1. The artifacts were contained in a box of "some kind of cement." This box was covered by a large stone with rounded edges which were partially buried by earth and leaves. The stone had to be pried off the box with a large fallen tree branch by wedging it under.
2. Inside the "cement" box there were several items. There were the plates themselves and "other things" with them. Two stones "laid crossways" at the bottom of the box. "on these rested the plates and other things." They were covered by a thin type of linen cloth which was very fragile at this point. There were two clear "stones fastened to silver bows" and "attached to a breastplate". These were the famous Urim and Thumim seer stones through which Joseph looked at the plates to get a translation of said plates.
3. There was also a sword with a precious steel blade and a pure gold hilt which is the original sword of Laban spoken of by Nephi and later passed down from general to general as a token of leadership. A very interesting piece to be sure.
However he was lead or directed to the find by an Angel he did not stumble on it while out searching.
The box was a set aside for holding the plates and the devices to read the plates. And in the 1800's even if he had been interested in dating the find ( which it is my understanding he was not) the technology did not exist at the time to do so.
He alone was directed to the plates and as I recall he went alone to recover them. After the translations wasn't he also directed what to do with the plates and the means to decipher them?
Leaving us with the witnesses he was allowed or chose to show the plates to. The simple reality is that since it requires some measure of faith to believe the story and the find, some people are never going to believe it.
Part of the process for me of becoming a member was praying for answers to questions like that. I was instructed to seek through prayer my ability to believe those things that can not be physically proven. And to learn of the verification that did occur. The fact that witnesses to the gold plates left the Church but NEVER retracted their statements was a very big part of believing for me.
A lot of religions are fake, but any religion found in the states is phony. Look at Scientology. It is laughable as well. Just saying. Good luck idiots.
